SAR S-92 Missing Ireland
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CHC preparing to take a hit?
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It's being reported by RTÉ that the AAIU is still working on the report into the loss of Rescue 116 and that the final version won't be published before March.
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2018...-crash-report/
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The Air Accident Investigation Unit says the extent of the inquiry into the fatal crash of Coast Guard Rescue Helicopter 116 means a final report on the matter will not be completed by the first anniversary of the incident.
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As the old saying goes - 'If you think flight safety is expensive, try having an accident and see what happens'.
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If I read the above link correctly, it suggests that the IAA produced a database with certain terrain elements msssing in it? Did I just read that correctly?
So isn't it the IAA that are going to get the full weight of the law thrown at them for the cause of this accident and not CHC?
I must be missing the point here.................................
It later emerged that the island was not included on the helicopter's onboard warning system due to missing navigational data on maps published by the Irish Aviation Authority.
I must be missing the point here.................................
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If I read the above link correctly, it suggests that the IAA produced a database with certain terrain elements msssing in it? Did I just read that correctly?
So isn't it the IAA that are going to get the full weight of the law thrown at them for the cause of this accident and not CHC?
I must be missing the point here.................................
So isn't it the IAA that are going to get the full weight of the law thrown at them for the cause of this accident and not CHC?
I must be missing the point here.................................
The data within them is subject to the limitations of the data gathering, reducing and storage algorithms.
I feel the quoted statement is therefore a little misleading.
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I think it's misleading as, although the IAA ay be responsible for the aeronautical information on their charts, the actual topographical map will have come from Ordinance Survey Ireland. Where the digital database for the EGPWS comes from is unclear but, given that it will be the same as the Fixed Wing variants it is not a huge surprise that it does not have the level of detail that would include rocks in the sea. The greatest acuity is in the vicinity of airports.
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AAIU Interim Statement.
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Why is Blackrock island STILL missing from ordnance survey Ireland topographical data a year later?? You can see this on the geohive website.
The Island is accurately charted on old maps from centuries ago. But not on current maps from OSI. It's a bizarre situation and even more bizarre that it doesn't appear to have been rectified.
Obviously there were many factors to this accident but I am surprised that the interim report makes hardly any mention of the charting issues.
The Island is accurately charted on old maps from centuries ago. But not on current maps from OSI. It's a bizarre situation and even more bizarre that it doesn't appear to have been rectified.
Obviously there were many factors to this accident but I am surprised that the interim report makes hardly any mention of the charting issues.
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Just noticed a minor update on March 1st.
Second Interim Statement: Accident Sikorsky S-92A, registration (EI-ICR) at Black Rock Co. Mayo, 14 March 2017 at 00.46 hrs | AAIU.ie
Air Accident Investigation Unit Ireland
Interim Statement --- 1 March 2019
Investigation into Accident involving S92A helicopter EI-ICR (R116)Black Rock, Co. Mayo on 14 March 2017As per International Convention, EU Regulation and domestic Law relating to accident investigation, it is required that, if the final report into an air accident investigation cannot be made public within 12 months, the Air Accident Investigation Unit shall release an Interim Statement at least at each anniversary of the accident or serious incident, detailing the progress of the investigation and any safety issued raised. Work on the preparation of a Draft Report is at an advanced stage.
Rather than preparing another detailed Interim Statement, which would detract from the ongoing work of preparing the Draft Report, the Investigation is focussing its efforts on finalising the Draft Report. Once finalised, the Draft Report will be circulated, in confidence, to interested parties as soon as possible.
Accordingly, a detailed Interim Statement is not being issued on the occasion of the second anniversary of this accident.
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Interim Statement --- 1 March 2019
Investigation into Accident involving S92A helicopter EI-ICR (R116)Black Rock, Co. Mayo on 14 March 2017As per International Convention, EU Regulation and domestic Law relating to accident investigation, it is required that, if the final report into an air accident investigation cannot be made public within 12 months, the Air Accident Investigation Unit shall release an Interim Statement at least at each anniversary of the accident or serious incident, detailing the progress of the investigation and any safety issued raised. Work on the preparation of a Draft Report is at an advanced stage.
Rather than preparing another detailed Interim Statement, which would detract from the ongoing work of preparing the Draft Report, the Investigation is focussing its efforts on finalising the Draft Report. Once finalised, the Draft Report will be circulated, in confidence, to interested parties as soon as possible.
Accordingly, a detailed Interim Statement is not being issued on the occasion of the second anniversary of this accident.
-END-
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The AAIU is a small organisation that will have been stretched to its limits with this inquiry, although I know they will have given it their all.
It seems like what they've chosen to do is entirely sensible and justifiable, particularly if producing another interim bulletin would delay the final report.
It seems like what they've chosen to do is entirely sensible and justifiable, particularly if producing another interim bulletin would delay the final report.
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Heard a rumour that Irish SAR are looking for a quick-fix for NVG training - be interesting to see if they can find anyone with the requisite experience of recent SAR NVG and S92 time..
A few years ago a sadly departed colleague with plenty of NVG experience and instructional time was passed over to introduce NVG to Irish SAR because they wanted someone Irish to do it rather than someone who was qualified - hope they don't repeat that process.
A few years ago a sadly departed colleague with plenty of NVG experience and instructional time was passed over to introduce NVG to Irish SAR because they wanted someone Irish to do it rather than someone who was qualified - hope they don't repeat that process.