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Originally Posted by [email protected]
Sort of understandable if the report is critical of the crew members who aren't here to defend themselves.
Some 70% plus of accidents are caused by crew, CFIT even higher.
It is urgent to get this report out as it will also reveal a large amount of recommendations for this specific company and Irish SAR and IAA, I suspect.
I do feel for the Crew and the relatives, but that is no excuse for us to enter year 4 without a final report.
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Cpt B
Sorry Crab, I disagree.
Some 70% plus of accidents are caused by crew, CFIT even higher.
It is urgent to get this report out as it will also reveal a large amount of recommendations for this specific company and Irish SAR and IAA, I suspect.
I do feel for the Crew and the relatives, but that is no excuse for us to enter year 4 without a final report.
Regards
Cpt B
Some 70% plus of accidents are caused by crew, CFIT even higher.
It is urgent to get this report out as it will also reveal a large amount of recommendations for this specific company and Irish SAR and IAA, I suspect.
I do feel for the Crew and the relatives, but that is no excuse for us to enter year 4 without a final report.
Regards
Cpt B
The" criticism" of the crew should be fair, based upon straight facts, and carefully consider the related factors and actions/in-actions of other persons, agencies, and authorities.
They are not to be the scapegoats in this tragedy.
They are not to be the scapegoats in this tragedy.
The sister of the Aircraft Commander is about to release a book dealing with her grief post the accident.
Available online for March 1st .Just before the 3rd anniversary.
Available online for March 1st .Just before the 3rd anniversary.
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Review board to examine R116 crash report
A review board has been established to examine the draft final report into a Coast Guard helicopter crash three years ago.The Minister for Transport Shane Ross has announced that certain findings made by the Air Accident Investigation Unit (AAIU) will be re-examined, at the request of one of the parties subject to the investigation.
The Review Board will be chaired by Senior Counsel Patrick McCann who will be assisted by an independent Expert Member. The Review Board will be entirely independent in its work in accordance with the relevant legislation.
A review board has been established to examine the draft final report into a Coast Guard helicopter crash three years ago.The Minister for Transport Shane Ross has announced that certain findings made by the Air Accident Investigation Unit (AAIU) will be re-examined, at the request of one of the parties subject to the investigation.
The Review Board will be chaired by Senior Counsel Patrick McCann who will be assisted by an independent Expert Member. The Review Board will be entirely independent in its work in accordance with the relevant legislation.
https://www.gov.ie/en/news/803d53-es...indings-of-th/
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/irel...ined-1.4200241
3rd anniversary of the loss of 4 crew aboard R116
https://www.thejournal.ie/rescue-116...46281-Mar2020/
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https://www.thejournal.ie/rescue-116...46281-Mar2020/
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R116 accident review faces new delay after UK expert resigns
http://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/...0-r116-review/
http://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/...0-r116-review/
Disgraceful
Probably. Doesn’t matter how much window dressing you use around company SMS, training, maps, EGPWS database etc etc, when a crew flies a serviceable aircraft into a large rock, in VMC, that is detectable on radar, it’s unlikely the findings will come out in their favour
it’s unlikely the findings will come out in their favour
Management prefers that all fingers point to the crew.
Feeling too comfortable following a legacy procedure instead of using the aircraft's actual capability perhaps Megan - you can ask why as much as you like but in the final analysis, as 212 man says, they flew into a rock that they shouldn't have at an altitude they had no necessity to be at at that point.
Standard Operating Procedures are 'handrails not handcuffs' as our SAR Standards use to say - you get paid the money to keep the aircraft and crew safe as your primary objective.
Standard Operating Procedures are 'handrails not handcuffs' as our SAR Standards use to say - you get paid the money to keep the aircraft and crew safe as your primary objective.
What is also true is that there are elements of this that go all the way up through CHC management to the Coastguard and to Ministers. Wasn't there a minister a few years back bragging to the Brits about how cheap the Irish service was. In part, it was cheap because the technical requirements were the same rubbish that the Brits had been using in their inadequate contracts for 40 years and had now abandoned. CHC need to keep their people safe and legal no matter what the contract says and there may be questions to answer there. In the next two years, new contracts will evolve on both sides of the Irish Sea and let's hope both achieve the highest standards.
But yes, aircraft, large rock, pretty clear.
