Millionaire helicopter pilots to ferry emergency services...
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Hey Guys
Firstly I'm not saying whether I agree, or dis-agree, with Jeremy Paxton's offer or not, but
1) I think he is a CPL (H) anyway
2) Are we saying that PPL's are not as capable as CPL's here ?
3) Because he may (or may not) be wealthy, that he's not a capable pilot ?
Joel
Firstly I'm not saying whether I agree, or dis-agree, with Jeremy Paxton's offer or not, but
1) I think he is a CPL (H) anyway
2) Are we saying that PPL's are not as capable as CPL's here ?
3) Because he may (or may not) be wealthy, that he's not a capable pilot ?
Joel
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And in the red corner........
Haven't giggled so much in a while.
Jp: A pigment of his own constipation....methinks
This is where the CAA should show their true colours?
I wouldn't waste any more time on this to be honest.......................
Jp: A pigment of his own constipation....methinks
This is where the CAA should show their true colours?
I wouldn't waste any more time on this to be honest.......................
From the second Helicopter Life article:
Uh oh. 
PS When they say 'ship', I think they mean 'helicopter'.
The ship has wire strike kit, night scanner, full Garmin IFR avionics fit, MP3 player, ELT, Aux tank, mist eliminator, Facet oil filter, Connelly hide interior by Farnborough aircraft interiors and cruises at 135 knots....
PS When they say 'ship', I think they mean 'helicopter'.
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Tobias, I'm still new here and only getting to know the members but i've read through enough of your posts to know that you come across as one of the more level-headed owners on this forum , although that shouldn't go to your head. I don't know if i can say the same about Paxton because I don't know him but my guess is that he may lean towards the gung-ho brigade and his fl/right with Shirley Bassey supports that.
As I said earlier, we are probably dealing with a frustrated pro-pilot (hence the gear) who knows he hasn't got the time to sign-up and join a HEMS unit or whatever and be a full-time professional so its like "why don't I just create something I can respond to and everyone can think its charity on my part!"
He may be god's gift to the piloting world but its about doing things properly and this approach as well intentioned as it might be doesn't come across as being top drawer.
Do the TA allow part-time pilots? Can't he go off and do that once a month and fly one of their gazelles or even offer his black heli to them!
As I said earlier, we are probably dealing with a frustrated pro-pilot (hence the gear) who knows he hasn't got the time to sign-up and join a HEMS unit or whatever and be a full-time professional so its like "why don't I just create something I can respond to and everyone can think its charity on my part!"
He may be god's gift to the piloting world but its about doing things properly and this approach as well intentioned as it might be doesn't come across as being top drawer.
Do the TA allow part-time pilots? Can't he go off and do that once a month and fly one of their gazelles or even offer his black heli to them!
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This thread should last for ages bogey and crab will be here soon
What's the betting bogey thinks its against the rules !!!! Lol
Joel
Yes to all three LOL
I will get my coat
Steve
What's the betting bogey thinks its against the rules !!!! Lol
Joel
Yes to all three LOL
I will get my coat
Steve
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Anthony - My name is Joel (my surname is Tobias!) - no offence taken. Just thought I should properly introduce myself. Thanks for yoiur kind words too. I have met Jeremy and he is 'notorious/infamous' and probably does fit into the slightly gung - ho category.
MD 600 - you're not entirely serious are you? You must accept that there are probably many capable PPL's out there who have the same experience as a CPL - or better. There are also many PPL's who could easily achieve the CPL but who chose not to because there is little benefit to them.
In fact, I have a very good friend who immediately went from PPL (H) to CPL (H) and he has less than 250 hours in total. My insurance don't care or take into consideration that he is a CPL because they simply looked at his overall flying experience, which they consider is not as sufficient as the other PPL's names on my policy.
In terms of the wealthy bit, are you generalising, being specific to Jeremy or just trying to provoke a reaction ? You can't be generalising !!!!
Joel
MD 600 - you're not entirely serious are you? You must accept that there are probably many capable PPL's out there who have the same experience as a CPL - or better. There are also many PPL's who could easily achieve the CPL but who chose not to because there is little benefit to them.
In fact, I have a very good friend who immediately went from PPL (H) to CPL (H) and he has less than 250 hours in total. My insurance don't care or take into consideration that he is a CPL because they simply looked at his overall flying experience, which they consider is not as sufficient as the other PPL's names on my policy.
In terms of the wealthy bit, are you generalising, being specific to Jeremy or just trying to provoke a reaction ? You can't be generalising !!!!
Joel
The Times quotation said: "Paxton, 52, has agreed to be on call with his helicopter to fly firefighters to serious incidents."
And just what will they carry and actually be able to do when he gets them there?
And just what will they carry and actually be able to do when he gets them there?
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I think I've missed the part that mentioned where the service will be based to make it so effective and by what means any of the country's emergency services will be able contact them at any time of the day/night.
Oh, and;
Oh, and;
Mr Paxton insisted his immediate neighbours do not have a problem with the helicopter.
He said he does not fly it early in the morning or late at night and only uses around half of the permitted take-offs and landings.
He said he does not fly it early in the morning or late at night and only uses around half of the permitted take-offs and landings.
As Hillberg alluded to - I can't wait to see what burly firemen and kit will do to his Connelly hide interior
It's OK though, he is fully equipped for emergency flying - he has an MP3 player for Ride of the Valkyries for when he appears heroically over the horizon to save everyone from death and destruction
Mr Paxton - don't be such a prat - enjoy your wealth and your helicopter but keep out of the way where emergency services are concerned as you will be a liability and a danger not only to yourself but the public as well.
Who on this site actually knows the said gentlemen or have flown with him ?
Having done his last couple of LPC check rides he has a far higher ability than more of the 50% of CPL's I have tested recently.
Crab most people on this site respect your views, I certainly did until you call someone a prat, meet them first, find out what he is about then criticise by all means. Always believe everything you read in the press ?
As to those who rake over The Shriley Bassey thing, one he knows her and two he landed rather than press on and had a cfit, so shows something about his captaincy then !
What this really shows is how beneficial a resource a helicopter actually is but how they are not actually used for what they should be. Bit like air ambulances now, getting over equipped and too expensive for doing the job combined with being deployed where they dont need to be. Would love to know why all air ambulances now need to be IFR, how many hospitals have an instrument approach ? Sorry thread creep i know
Having done his last couple of LPC check rides he has a far higher ability than more of the 50% of CPL's I have tested recently.
Crab most people on this site respect your views, I certainly did until you call someone a prat, meet them first, find out what he is about then criticise by all means. Always believe everything you read in the press ?
As to those who rake over The Shriley Bassey thing, one he knows her and two he landed rather than press on and had a cfit, so shows something about his captaincy then !
What this really shows is how beneficial a resource a helicopter actually is but how they are not actually used for what they should be. Bit like air ambulances now, getting over equipped and too expensive for doing the job combined with being deployed where they dont need to be. Would love to know why all air ambulances now need to be IFR, how many hospitals have an instrument approach ? Sorry thread creep i know
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Hughes500- great to see your support for your customer, commendable
Probably the kindest comment on here so far.
Yes I do apologise about my previous comments. I now realise that Paxman/ton knowing the dame places this incident in a totally different light.
Additionally I unreservedly apologise for my comments suggesting that his judgement should never have been called into question because, after all, he did land and, now I see, it, he heroically saved the day.
I wish I had seen this in the beginning, he knew dame Shirley (don't call me Shirley) that makes all the difference and , , he landed his blackbird, why oh why didn;t I see this before!
Whatalotacrap!!!
The bleedin fool should probably never have left the ground or turned back seconds after take off (his ego probably wouldn't allow for that) but instead he put poor Shirley's (stop calling me Shirley) life in mortal danger (that's the real truth for those interested in it).
As I said earlier, Paxo could be god's gift to the piloting world but his actions are not those of a professional.
Hughes500, small question? Have you been to Paxo's home helipad? Is there ample room for him to conduct his daily checks on the tail section? Is he really the most professional pilot you've met in your career?
Another question (to others) is it not possible to do a GPS approach to a hospital pad?
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Mr Paxton - don't be such a prat - enjoy your wealth and your helicopter but keep out of the way where emergency services are concerned as you will be a liability and a danger not only to yourself but the public as well.
As to those who rake over The Shriley Bassey thing, one he knows her and two he landed rather than press on and had a cfit, so shows something about his captaincy then !
Additionally I unreservedly apologise for my comments suggesting that his judgement should never have been called into question because, after all, he did land and, now I see, it, he heroically saved the day.
I wish I had seen this in the beginning, he knew dame Shirley (don't call me Shirley) that makes all the difference and , , he landed his blackbird, why oh why didn;t I see this before!
Whatalotacrap!!!
The bleedin fool should probably never have left the ground or turned back seconds after take off (his ego probably wouldn't allow for that) but instead he put poor Shirley's (stop calling me Shirley) life in mortal danger (that's the real truth for those interested in it).
As I said earlier, Paxo could be god's gift to the piloting world but his actions are not those of a professional.
Hughes500, small question? Have you been to Paxo's home helipad? Is there ample room for him to conduct his daily checks on the tail section? Is he really the most professional pilot you've met in your career?
Another question (to others) is it not possible to do a GPS approach to a hospital pad?
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As to those who rake over The Shriley Bassey thing, one he knows her and two he landed rather than press on and had a cfit, so shows something about his captaincy then !
Hughesey, please tell us what you think his setups weather limitations are likely to be and what will be the various protocols for circumstances such as motorway landings?
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Supplebuttucks - I think you are wrong on all accounts and many levels.
If a pilot chooses to land rather than press on - and in doing so lives to fly another day in his serviceable helicopter HE SHOULD BE COMMENDED. To send any other message could cause someone else to press on - in fear of the kind of mindless drivel you spout in their direction.
As far as Mr Paxtons flightsuit and helmet are concerned - I like it!! Why not shake up the suits with a left field offer of help like this. He might be a bit naive when viewed from the lofty heights of us "Commercial" pilots but good luck to him. At least he is trying to help, is a businessman and actually LIKES helicopters. I like him a lot.....already.
But there again I like Shirley Bassey also and he "Saved" her so maybe I am bias!!
If a pilot chooses to land rather than press on - and in doing so lives to fly another day in his serviceable helicopter HE SHOULD BE COMMENDED. To send any other message could cause someone else to press on - in fear of the kind of mindless drivel you spout in their direction.
As far as Mr Paxtons flightsuit and helmet are concerned - I like it!! Why not shake up the suits with a left field offer of help like this. He might be a bit naive when viewed from the lofty heights of us "Commercial" pilots but good luck to him. At least he is trying to help, is a businessman and actually LIKES helicopters. I like him a lot.....already.
But there again I like Shirley Bassey also and he "Saved" her so maybe I am bias!!
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Hughes500
May I remind you Hughsey of a similar remark taken from the AAIB report into the Cumbria incident;
Is that cheese slice number 10 by any chance?
Who on this site actually knows the said gentlemen or have flown with him ?
Having done his last couple of LPC check rides he has a far higher ability than more of the 50% of CPL's I have tested recently.
Having done his last couple of LPC check rides he has a far higher ability than more of the 50% of CPL's I have tested recently.
The examiner stated that he had conducted a number of proficiency checks with the pilot in recent years and considered him to be of above average flying ability, adding that his skill level was similar to that of a British military helicopter pilot of two or three years operational experience.
Is that cheese slice number 10 by any chance?
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Just because pax in back can not see much out the front, does not mean the pilot in front can only see the same. Pilot can obviously see in front and below to keep the surface in sight. Or did you not think that was the case?
Sounded to me as though he did press on, especially considering Dame Shirley who was actually on the aircraft at the time said "you could not see anything, just white ahead." ...or does Mr Paxton, who in one report said that at no point did he feel remotely concerned, have Superman's super vision to go with his Thunderbirds business plan.