UK NPAS discussion: thread Mk 2
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I believe they are regulated by the CAACI rather than the FAA! So ostensibly they base their regulation on the AN(OT)O. I'm sure you knew that though...
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Movement at the top ....
Chief Constable Sir Norman Bettison - head of the Host force for NPAS has resigned ( Hillsborough Enquiry ).
Does anyone know who the likely candidate(s) might be for replacing him yet, and what their view(s) on hosting NPAS might be ?
Also, Chief Constable Alec Marshall of Hampshire Constabulary - who is the ACPO lead on Air Support and NPAS,
is leaving Hampshire early next year, to take up a position as the Chief Executive of the new national College of Policing.
News - Local News: Portsmouth News and Information (Portsmouth)
Is he likely to remain as ACPO lead on Air Support / NPAS in the new role, and if not, who might he replaced by ?
Interesting developments ahead maybe ?
Does anyone know who the likely candidate(s) might be for replacing him yet, and what their view(s) on hosting NPAS might be ?
Also, Chief Constable Alec Marshall of Hampshire Constabulary - who is the ACPO lead on Air Support and NPAS,
is leaving Hampshire early next year, to take up a position as the Chief Executive of the new national College of Policing.
News - Local News: Portsmouth News and Information (Portsmouth)
Is he likely to remain as ACPO lead on Air Support / NPAS in the new role, and if not, who might he replaced by ?
Interesting developments ahead maybe ?
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It's all gone rather quite about what's going on in the South East. So, has it been a roaring succes and everyone's been struck dumb, or has it entered vortex ring and people are just waiting for the crash at the bottom, or have people just been gagged like me(hence the strange Username)? 
The parties in South East are all on the T-word [not allowed to write it in full on Pprune it seems] so maybe you can judge for yourself how its going from the traffic on that. Assuming of course that its a true reflection.
Alex Marshall is going so replacement is on the cards. Is there anyone left in ACPO to fill the departees boots..... what with early retirements brought on by everything from spending weekends in clubs to creative storytelling, trotting off to Bramshill and getting too close to trains it must be getting difficult to get up a decent football team let alone the right man for the job.
Alex Marshall is going so replacement is on the cards. Is there anyone left in ACPO to fill the departees boots..... what with early retirements brought on by everything from spending weekends in clubs to creative storytelling, trotting off to Bramshill and getting too close to trains it must be getting difficult to get up a decent football team let alone the right man for the job.
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Quick, hold that tumbleweed for a moment!
Police and Crime Commissioner's Culdrose base police helicopter plan (From This is The West Country)
Right then, come the next set of PCC elections I would like to see some ex-Apache/Hereford/Odiham pilots and some door gunners' names on the voting slips, get voted into a post or 41 and come up with similar soundbites such as;
"The military have already been involved in support of the police on isolated occasions.
After all, we will be out of Afghanistan by then
Police and Crime Commissioner's Culdrose base police helicopter plan
Police helicopter back up could soon be flying from Helston in a bid to improve response times.
The idea is to create a link between the National Police Air Service and the towns naval base of RNAS Culdrose.
The regions first Police and Crime Commissioner Tony Hogg, whose election was announced in the early hours of Saturday, has called for search and rescue helicopters from RNAS Culdrose to provide back up to the police helicopter.
Mr Hogg, who is former commanding officer of Culdrose and an ex search and rescue pilot, said the new National Police Air Service (NPAS) that launched last month had pledged a response time of 20 minutes for 98 per cent of the population.
However, in Devon and Cornwall the nearest helicopter would be based at Exeter airport meaning approximately two thirds of Cornwall fell outside the 20-minute target and the Isles of Scilly would be roughly 50 minutes away.
This in itself assumed that the police helicopter at Exeter would be available.
In a open letter to the operations director of the Police Air Authority, Ollie Dismore, Mr Hogg wrote: The rural nature of parts of Devon and Cornwall can make a rapid helicopter response all the more important.
Notwithstanding the faster flying speeds of the police helicopter, I would like to propose a formal agreement between NPAS and RNAS Culdrose, for Culdrose to augment and back up rapid response policing cover where needed, in addition to their well publicised search and rescue tasking from the maritime rescue co-ordination centres.
I know from my naval experience that Culdrose have already been involved in support of the police on isolated occasions.
He said that if this link up took place, Devon and Cornwall could then truthfully say that 98 per cent of its population was supported by a rapid response helicopter rescue and policing service.
Where minutes can be crucial, I urge you to consider this proposal, he added in his letter.
The NPAS was launched on October 1 and is due to be implemented between now and January 2015. It is expected to arrive in Devon and Cornwall in July next year.
Introduced with the promise of saving up to £15 million a year, compared to previous arrangements, the idea is to ultimately provide a national, borderless service that makes use of the nearest aircraft with 25 helicopters placed in 23 locations in England and Wales.
Police helicopter back up could soon be flying from Helston in a bid to improve response times.
The idea is to create a link between the National Police Air Service and the towns naval base of RNAS Culdrose.
The regions first Police and Crime Commissioner Tony Hogg, whose election was announced in the early hours of Saturday, has called for search and rescue helicopters from RNAS Culdrose to provide back up to the police helicopter.
Mr Hogg, who is former commanding officer of Culdrose and an ex search and rescue pilot, said the new National Police Air Service (NPAS) that launched last month had pledged a response time of 20 minutes for 98 per cent of the population.
However, in Devon and Cornwall the nearest helicopter would be based at Exeter airport meaning approximately two thirds of Cornwall fell outside the 20-minute target and the Isles of Scilly would be roughly 50 minutes away.
This in itself assumed that the police helicopter at Exeter would be available.
In a open letter to the operations director of the Police Air Authority, Ollie Dismore, Mr Hogg wrote: The rural nature of parts of Devon and Cornwall can make a rapid helicopter response all the more important.
Notwithstanding the faster flying speeds of the police helicopter, I would like to propose a formal agreement between NPAS and RNAS Culdrose, for Culdrose to augment and back up rapid response policing cover where needed, in addition to their well publicised search and rescue tasking from the maritime rescue co-ordination centres.
I know from my naval experience that Culdrose have already been involved in support of the police on isolated occasions.
He said that if this link up took place, Devon and Cornwall could then truthfully say that 98 per cent of its population was supported by a rapid response helicopter rescue and policing service.
Where minutes can be crucial, I urge you to consider this proposal, he added in his letter.
The NPAS was launched on October 1 and is due to be implemented between now and January 2015. It is expected to arrive in Devon and Cornwall in July next year.
Introduced with the promise of saving up to £15 million a year, compared to previous arrangements, the idea is to ultimately provide a national, borderless service that makes use of the nearest aircraft with 25 helicopters placed in 23 locations in England and Wales.
Right then, come the next set of PCC elections I would like to see some ex-Apache/Hereford/Odiham pilots and some door gunners' names on the voting slips, get voted into a post or 41 and come up with similar soundbites such as;
"The military have already been involved in support of the police on isolated occasions.
After all, we will be out of Afghanistan by then
Thread drift, I know, but, just had to comment on the door gunner blatting away, happy as a pig in ****, and then looking at the camera still firing with a friendly helicopter in his 1 o'clock, (15 seconds in). 
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Yea, bloody health and safety eh!
Anyhoo;
Any truth in the rumour that with the coming of the PCC's, the future of NPAS would appear to lie soley in the SouthEast for at least the next couple of years?
As the other Police Authorities failed to sign up to anything solid, PCC's now have to begin the process again. The benefit of this however, is that by now the figures will be available for scrutiny......or (b).
Not saying they missed the boat..but...
Anyhoo;
Any truth in the rumour that with the coming of the PCC's, the future of NPAS would appear to lie soley in the SouthEast for at least the next couple of years?
As the other Police Authorities failed to sign up to anything solid, PCC's now have to begin the process again. The benefit of this however, is that by now the figures will be available for scrutiny......or (b).
Not saying they missed the boat..but...
Well, well - Tony Hogg getting the PCC's slot - well done Tony.
However, you're showing your naivity trying to knit before you can sew!
How on God's earth does he think this 'cover' is going to work then? Phone call to Culdrose through ATC perhaps: Can you tannoy the police duty back up cab to get airborne please for a TWOC near Penzance?
Can you envisage the (what?) £60 million Merlin chasing some blaggers down the A30 (in a £1500 Astra) with FLIR in hand trying to coral them into a dead end calling ground troops for back up on the local police band?
More like: Phone call to '71 asking for the carriage of armed police officers tomorrow morning to Plymouth and they make their own way back later......Once every 3 months.
Bless you Tony - making all the right political noises right from the start.
However, you're showing your naivity trying to knit before you can sew!
How on God's earth does he think this 'cover' is going to work then? Phone call to Culdrose through ATC perhaps: Can you tannoy the police duty back up cab to get airborne please for a TWOC near Penzance?
Can you envisage the (what?) £60 million Merlin chasing some blaggers down the A30 (in a £1500 Astra) with FLIR in hand trying to coral them into a dead end calling ground troops for back up on the local police band?
More like: Phone call to '71 asking for the carriage of armed police officers tomorrow morning to Plymouth and they make their own way back later......Once every 3 months.
Bless you Tony - making all the right political noises right from the start.
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BBC News - Avon and Somerset Chief Constable Colin Port to step down
BBC News - Suffolk Police Chief Constable Simon Ash to retire
A chief constable is to step down after refusing to re-apply for his own job.
Colin Port announced he would not seek the renewal of his contract with Avon and Somerset Police, a day after Sue Mountstevens was sworn in as police and crime commissioner (PCC).
Colin Port announced he would not seek the renewal of his contract with Avon and Somerset Police, a day after Sue Mountstevens was sworn in as police and crime commissioner (PCC).
Suffolk Police Chief Constable Simon Ash to retire
Suffolk Chief Constable Simon Ash has announced his retirement, saying it was "an appropriate time" to leave. Mr Ash, who joined the force in 2007, said he had decided not to extend his contract and would depart in February.
The decision comes two days after Tim Passmore was sworn in as Suffolk police and crime commissioner (PCC).
Suffolk Chief Constable Simon Ash has announced his retirement, saying it was "an appropriate time" to leave. Mr Ash, who joined the force in 2007, said he had decided not to extend his contract and would depart in February.
The decision comes two days after Tim Passmore was sworn in as Suffolk police and crime commissioner (PCC).
Yup TC concur your thoughts about the validity of a seaking from 771 undertaking police ops. But good old "Boss Hog" in charge of the D&C pigs did raise a wry smile. TC I'll put you down as one of those bad ole Duke Boys from my fond memories of the old days.
It rather shows just how laughable this whole elected Police Commissioner concept really is - how many people turned up to vote for him?
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BBC News - Essex police chief Jim Barker-McCardle to 'stand down'
Essex police chief Jim Barker-McCardle to 'stand
The chief constable of Essex Police intends to stand down before the end of his contract, the BBC understands.
The chief constable of Essex Police intends to stand down before the end of his contract, the BBC understands.
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knowing both the Essex and Suffolk CCs I can see why they're off now, both started their posts just as the cuts appeared on the horizon, and now they can see the future is one of having to second guess the politician in the next office before making any decision......
Looks like Dyfed Powys seem to think there's life after NPAS, with the advert for a Chief Pilot appearing in flight today. What's the background to this? anyone know or care to share any info.....
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the transition to NPAS is a long drawn out region by region process, DP will join in turn, in the mean time people are retiring/resigning/moving job/falling ill etc so the individual forces still need to recruit. I think the move to NPAS could be described as being a band of tribes being taken over by a benevolent dictatorship, possibly fairer to say a Chinese style committee led operation