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Old 3rd Mar 2011, 16:04
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Peter Cadbury

When we first mentioned Peter Cadbury (aka Peter the Cad or just PTC) around page two of this thread, I had an inkling that (given PTC's effervescent nature) we might happen upon one or two discoveries.

From my time living in the UK (early 70's through '84) I recalled Peter owning a helicopter, a Bell 206 named G-CHOC. Enter PPRuNer MrChopper who disclosed that PTC had owned an Ecureuil, G-JANY, so named after his last wife. Great stuff! Then last week I was emailed an image of G-BBUX which also turned out to be a 'Cadbury-Copter'. I was astonished!

Today I came across a response on the Aviation History and Nostalgia forum which read as follows:

FAStoat wrote: On May 3rd 1975 I flew G-AXNZ into Preston Candover to be met by Maurice Gore, to be flown back to Blackbushe in the Air Pegasus Aztec. Unforunately this was needed to be elsewhere so Peter Cadbury fired up a Yellow and Black JetRanger, G-BAKU, and we flew back to Booker in that. I had only had a go in a Gazelle before, so was a bit kackhanded with the very twitchy control on the JetRanger when you had too firm a grip. I remember Peter being very amused at this. Anyway we got back to Booker safely.
"No problem" I thought. "This (G-BAKU) was obviously one of Mann's 206's which PTC probably had on loan but no .. blow me down .. this was also PTC's. Fantastic!!!

Well I never! From one to four helicopters courtesy of PPRuNeland and some faithful friends who regularly mail me aviation images to add to my growing assortment of photos.

I am especially pleased over the discovery of BAKU as, unlike PTC's other 206's, this one (presumably his first 206) was an Agusta variant.

PTC's helicopter line-up now looks like this:

G-BAKU AgustaBell 206B May '73 to Sept '75
G-BBUX Bell 206B Dec '75 to Sept '77
G-CHOC Bell 206B Sept '77 to Nov '80
G-JANY AS 350B Oct '79 to Nov '81

As you might imagine, I am now keenly on the prowl for an image of BAKU.

Also from the 'other' nostalgia thread:

Chevvron wrote: Peter rang us (Farnborough Air Traffic) one Christmas asking when he could deliver our Harrods Hamper. At that time, Farnborough was officially closed from Christmas Eve until after New Year, but some of us who didn't want to take leave went in anyway. We arranged for Peter to enter the zone which he did in a Squirrel G-JANY. He landed and got out, and to our surprise was wearing wellies and courdorys.
Great Stuff! The last wellie-wearing pilot I encountered was in 1980 when the late John Akroyd-Hunt (former Alan Mann pilot) came up with PPRuNer TRC (so I believe) to rescue The Dancer (Colin Chapman's 206) after her engine went out. He was quite the 'flying farmer' replete with chequered shirt!

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Loki wrote: This is the second time Peter Cadbury's name has come up in the last 24 hours! Yesterday I was at a reunion of Heathrow ATC staff (I was at LHR 1970-1973). There were many anecdotes told, some being about Cadbury. Because of the proximity of his private airstrip to the London Control Zone, he relied on ATC to be flexible to allow him to operate. Needless to say, he often offered trips to ATC staff. I went once from his Hawthorn Hill site down to Plymouth, where he was the chairman of Westward TV. We turned up early on the morning and had to help his "man" to push the islander out of it`s hangar .. other people were often offered drinks prior to departure. I know there is a Heathrow veteran who has a wealth of stories regarding Peter Cadbury. You might try the ATC forum for a response.
Please keep the Peter Cadbury stories coming. We've already mentioned the time he burnt a hole in the coat of an Alan Mann mechanic (oops, again, sorry .. engineer) when he selected the cabin heat (on an early model 206) during ground runs and I also related the story about him taking a Bishop for a spin and scaring him half to death!

PPRuNer Chevvron also wrote:

I arranged a trip with Peter one day in G-BESO. It was at Bembridge for maintenance, a company pilot was going to bring it back to Candover, then we would go back to Bembridge to drop off the pilot and return to Candover.

When I arrived, there was no-one there but, after a couple of minutes, a JetRanger popped up over the hedge, came in and landed. Janie (Peter's wife) got out and said "Peter says do you want a quick ride while he's got it running?" Naturally I said yes, went over, opened the passenger door, put one leg in and we were airborne!! Hardly had chance to sit down let alone fasten my seatbelt!!!

Peter explained they'd had his grandchildren for tea and he'd just taken them home.
Peter certainly seems to have been quite the man!


Peter Cadbury (centre) accompanied by his wife Benedicta and Douglas Bader (who was best man at their wedding) at the Royal Court Theatre on 30th July 1959

Anyone with stories, photos or other material relating to Peter Cadbury and his flying days .. please feel free to chip in.

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Hi,

I am the administrator for a site called Alec Wortley Helicopters. On the site are a number of old photos, press articles, letters, invoices etc. relating to the two Bell 47 G3B1 helicopters that this company owned and operated between 1979 and 1983. The two helicopters were G-CHOP and G-BGMU, both ex-military and both still airworthy. There are also a few pictures of Bell 206Bs and Westland Scouts. The URL is DR ALEC WORTLEY HELICOPTERS If anyone would like more information, or copies of the pictures at higher resolution, feel free to let me know!
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G BAKU?

When I first went to Dubai it was because of John Akroyd-Hunt whom I had known from Navy Junglie days. He had been asked to find a driver for a new 206 being sold to a Sheikh in the UAE. I went out to Dubai at very short notice in March 1976.
As well as the new 206 there was an older 206 with a Pegasus on the side and I was told it was ex Peter Cadbury. I recall it as Dark Blue with Yellow but can't be certain. I never flew that one as I was told of some interesting starts it had had when the Sheikh was between pilots
It was still on the UK register as there wasn't a UAE Register then but I'm not sure of the registration. I wonder if this was G BAKU? Timing would fit.
I will check for photos next time in UK but don't think I have any. Interesting times!
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ST: What a small world it is!

G-BAKU was delivered to Mann's from Agusta in December 1972. She was then sold to Cadbury in May of '73 who in turn sold her to Horsley Wood and Co. Ltd. in June '75. The next entry on the register simply states that the aircraft was transferred to the UAE in February 1976.

Images of BAKU are scarce, in fact so far I have been unable to source any.

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G-BAKU

My records have it taking up UAE registration A6-AYX.
ammended record, difficult to read the writing.

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Savoia, the S61 was flown to Breamore House, just south of Salisbury for the day of filming. As you say, the aircraft was painted overnight and back to Cornwall to fly the line the day after filming. It appeared in the film for all of 5 seconds!
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UAE registration is A6, you will need to correct your records.
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WiganAirways: Great to see you back on the thread!

Actually there was no need for you to amend your original post as, to the best of my knowledge, there was no aircraft registered as A6-AYX. As Sandy Toad mentioned, at the time of BAKU's arrival in the UAE they had no aircraft registration system. That actually arrived later the same year, on 5th November to be precise.

BAKU was sold to Pakistan where she was registered, as you originally posted, as AP-AYX. From there she moved on to the US and was registered as N54618 and N730HP respectively and became one of those rare breeds - a US domiciled Agusta-built JetRanger.

BAKU doubtless carried her British registration during her tour in the UAE (as Sandy Toad suggested).

Also in the UAE in '76 were these 206's belonging to ADH:


N8108J at Abu Dhabi Bateen (AZI) on 30th October 1976. This aircraft did go onto the UAE register and became A6-BCA. (Photo: Terry Murphy)

Rev&Checks: Many thanks.

Some Assorted Nostalgia:


The late great John 'Chalky' White's former mount seen here at the Leicester Airshow on 26 August 1979. (Photo: John Bell) Evidently participating in a JCB promo.


Also in '79 was this B206B N36BL which landed on a rather steep slope in Willowbrook, New York State. The landing necessitated positioning the aircraft beneath power lines. Another angle shows the slope as being more agressive than depicted here.

If there are some American PPRuNers interested in Helitack ops from the 70's then you might enjoy this: https://picasaweb.google.com/1174151...27787/The1970S#

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Thanks Savoia, I'll change my scribble back to AP.
The nearest I have is sister ship G-BAKT S/N 8341



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G-BAKT - Was hoping to have left my ramblings of this craft for the Ferranti site but, seeing as you mentioned her .. there's probably no aircraft which has as much significance for me as KT.

My father met Col. Bob Smith through Sebastian de Ferranti. Bob and my father evidently hit it off striaght away and remained friends for life. As a result, my father invited Bob to become one of my godparents.

At some point Bob felt he ought to expose his godson to the 'other side' of aviation (my father being a reasonably accomplished private fixed-wing flyer). Several attempts were made, without success, one which occurred just a few minutes after I had left our home when Bob landed with G-BBBM on our property. I was as 'devastated' as an eight year old could be!

Bob promised that the following weekend (without fail) I would be introduced to the helicopter experience. Up until that point the only contraption which had captured my imagination was the Hovercraft, which I loved, especially Hoverlloyd's red and white beasts.

Lo and behold the day came when my father drove me to the Beehive at Gatwick. Sadly on that day Bob was off somewhere with Sebastian but, in his stead we were greeted by Ferranti's Deputy CP, a chap called Chris Hunt.

When we entered the hover I exclaimed "Its just like a hovercraft!" not knowing that we were headed to Ramsgate where Chris was to spend the day filming the Hoverlloyd beasts for an advert. It was a day of bliss for the young Savoia!

At the end of it all when we returned to the Beehive I had never been so sure about anything - I knew with all certainty that I wanted to fly helicopters.

Like many, there are numerous aircraft in which I have encountered memorable experiences but .. KT was by far the most significant for me.

Precious memories indeed!


G-BAKT landing at Glasgow in 1978 wearing the colours she sported while owned by Ferranti. (Photo: Robert Pittuck)

KT was bought by Ferranti from Julian Sacher and sold some years later to Express Helicopters of Southminster, Essex. She then moved on to Burnthills and thereafter Gleneagles.


Ferranti Deputy Chief Pilot Chris Hunt

After working for the British Aircraft Corporation Chris was commissioned into the Royal Engineers (1965) from where he was seconded to the Army Air Corps gaining experience in Malaya and Hong Kong. He joined Ferranti in 1973.

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G-BAKT

G-BAKT

After Gleneagles she went to Kwik Fit Euro Ltd., as G-FLYR ,11/89, sadly destroyed in an accident at Glamis Castle on 13/7/97.

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another of Gleneagles and Clyde

G-AWOL

Have added another of Gleneagles Jet Rangers, G-AWOL



and Clyde Jet and Long Rangers G-EYEI / G-STVI



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Looking at G-BAKT in Post #424, I believe this is the first time I've seen a 206 flying with the ground-handling wheel fitted. I remember that they had/have a spring-loaded retaining pin but nevertheless they came off the float pans easily after lowering the helicopter. I can't help feeling that should one come off in-flight it could do a substantial amount of damage.
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Wigan: Great stuff! STVI is doing a great job of maintaining yaw .. despite her lacking a starboard vertical stabiliser.

SJ: Clear evidence that KT was no longer in the Ferranti fold. Flying with ghw's attached was strictly 'verboten' as Col. Bob would say. Not however due to reasons of safety but .. aesthetics!

The ghw's did, as you say, dislodge quite easily once tension was released and one assumes therefore that for flight they were fastened by some additional means to the skid.

Some further blasts from the past include this Air Kilroe 206 and Compass' BEHG (which has featured previously on this thread) departing from in front of the Robertson's Foods hangar at Bristol in August 1986.





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G-eyei,g-stvi

Savoia : You noticed all is not as it seems on this photo, the photo is two stuck together, as EYEI and STVI (STeVIe), landed a couple of minutes apart, it looked good to combine them, and with a wee bit of photoshop.



the real one.

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Ferranti Deputy Chief Pilot Chris Hunt
Enough gold braid to sink a battleship - check.

"White gloves" - check

"White seat harness" - check

Headset from Lancaster bomber with "white trimmings" - check

Incidentally this appears to be pre-shoulder harness days.

Did this guy moonlight as the butler as well?

Pure class! How things change.
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Peter Cadbury



G-AZBS registered to Peter Cadbury 17.8.72 (Sold it to B.E.A.S as photo)



G-BAKU (location unknown)



G-BAKU (With Heli Gulf Titles, again location unknown)



G-BBUX

all pictures from my collection.....

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Looking at G-BAKT in Post #424, I believe this is the first time I've seen a 206 flying with the ground-handling wheel fitted. I remember that they had/have a spring-loaded retaining pin but nevertheless they came off the float pans easily after lowering the helicopter
Not an unusual sight in the 70's. A few operators flew like this. Usually into Battersea, which was half the size then as it is now, for handling and parking against the wall. Some operators modified the wheel attachments so they wouldn't come off without tools.


G-BAKU (location unknown)

The Location is without doubt Mann's hangar at Fairoaks. It's pre early April 1978 as G-AXGO went to the great hangar in the sky on the 14th of that month.
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Bravissimo signore Elipix!

Helipix, what can I say, you've done it .. again! Fantastico!!!

When it seemed as though the trail which led us to BAKU might have run cold resulting in a disappointing finale without any material evidence .. you came to the rescue with a most satisfying reward for the ramblings of the nostalgia thread! Again, well done!

Not only have you uncovered BAKU complete with her golden pegasus but, your image of her in colour in the UAE must, one presumes, be just as Sandy Toad last remembered her!

BUX is also looking good, Greenham perhaps? Then, as if this wasn't enough .. you've gone and uncovered a fifth helicopter from the Cadbury collection .. mama mia Elipix! And I was so sure that after our discovery of BAKU we had ascertained the full extent of Peter's fleet!

As with TRC I also noted AXGO at TRC's and VFR440's former place of work. AXGO, I am sure, along with AXJC, belonged to Charles Hughesdon.

As TRC mentioned, AXGO was written off but on 2nd March 1978. A synopsis of the accident reads:

A/C WAS ENGAGED ON A WATER SAMPLING OPERATION WHEN, WITHOUT WARNING, IT ROLLED TO THE RIGHT. CORRECTIVE ACTION HAD NO EFFECT & THE A/C CAME TO REST PARTLY INVERTED IN THREE FEET OF WATER. CREW MEMBER SAW PORT SKID TOUCH THE WATER AS THE PILOT LOWERED THE HELICOPTER INTO THE HOVER. CAA CLOSURE: THE WRECK WAS RECOVERED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE OUTER SECTION OF ONE OF THE MAIN ROTOR BLADES. NO EVIDENCE OF A MECHANICAL FAILURE OR DEFECT WAS DISCOVERED.

I don't suppose you have an image of G-AZAG in your superb collection? This was the personal mount of Lord Dulverton but, to-date, I have fully failed to source any pictoral evidence of her existence!

To conclude, I am reasonably certain that, this time, with the discovery of AZBS, we have finally completed PTC's line up of rotary assets.

Best

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Savoia, try here for G-AZAG image:
CSE ? G-AZAG | TransportPhotos.com

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