The Rotary Nostalgia Thread
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848 lost most/all their Wessex. A very sad occasion.
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Chinooks, too. Shame they refused to let them fly off earlier, as the crews suggested.
Quite right Shy, 4 Chinooks instead of the one would have made a huge difference.
Quite right Shy, 4 Chinooks instead of the one would have made a huge difference.
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Not seen those pics before. Very poignant. You say she sank on 24th, then I must apologise because I was on Norland for the landings on 21st so my photo must have been taken on the 19th.
Not seen those pics before. Very poignant. You say she sank on 24th, then I must apologise because I was on Norland for the landings on 21st so my photo must have been taken on the 19th.
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I see the mods have done another complete purge of all posts relating to Savoia. Interesting. I'm not sure what you call that, but it isn't moderating. This will also disappear soon, I'm sure.
I imagine that it's called 'keeping a thread on topic'. In this case, 'Rotary Nostalgia', not 'Free the Savoia One'.
Night Owl
When the threads founder and primary contributor gets ousted it is very much 'on topic', this site is not here for occasional browsers, it is here for a small catchment of individuals who's comments and opinions should be seen by all.
This thread has proved it's not here for a small catchment of individuals, please clarify that comment?
Bast0n, hope you are well? Guess we we have to wait for this thread to be purged again by the mods!
Happy New Year to all
This thread has proved it's not here for a small catchment of individuals, please clarify that comment?
Bast0n, hope you are well? Guess we we have to wait for this thread to be purged again by the mods!
Happy New Year to all
Chief Bottle Washer
As Bravo73 has pointed out, moderation is about maintaining a thread topic and this is not a thread about misguided perceptions of one poster being picked on. Since Savoia has made it plain that he does not intend to return I will make a one off post to clear up a great many misconceptions that he has created. We are aware that there are claims made by Savoia that he has been unfairly treated and that a small number of Rotorheads have accepted those claims without knowing the depths of the hurt caused by breaching the PPRuNe terms.
To out another PPRuNe member is normally an instant and permanent ban. Savoia was only given a week off for outing Speechless Two and the Savoia username is still active. He has chosen not to use it despite a personal email welcoming him back after Christmas. He is still able to post and refute any of these facts:
Speechless Two was harassed by Savoia to the extent that he felt stalked and closed his email account to prevent being contacted.
Speechless Two did not (as claimed) out himself.
Speechless Two has closed his account here and requested that his posts be deleted as a result of Savoia's unwanted attention and outing.
As a result of Speechless Two's concerns I advised Savoia that emails/PM's to other members that could be construed as stalking would not be tolerated. We have an obligation to protect all of you from unwanted approaches when brought to our attention.
Savoia has numerous other usernames: none of these alternative usernames have been banned, however all except two are restricted from posting in Rotorheads. We just don't need the moderating issues that this creates.
This thread has deleted posts both critical and supportive of the moderation required to keep it on topic: the element that believe it is discriminatory should be aware of that.
This is the only post on this subject. Any further posts not on topic will be deleted.
To out another PPRuNe member is normally an instant and permanent ban. Savoia was only given a week off for outing Speechless Two and the Savoia username is still active. He has chosen not to use it despite a personal email welcoming him back after Christmas. He is still able to post and refute any of these facts:
Speechless Two was harassed by Savoia to the extent that he felt stalked and closed his email account to prevent being contacted.
Speechless Two did not (as claimed) out himself.
Speechless Two has closed his account here and requested that his posts be deleted as a result of Savoia's unwanted attention and outing.
As a result of Speechless Two's concerns I advised Savoia that emails/PM's to other members that could be construed as stalking would not be tolerated. We have an obligation to protect all of you from unwanted approaches when brought to our attention.
Savoia has numerous other usernames: none of these alternative usernames have been banned, however all except two are restricted from posting in Rotorheads. We just don't need the moderating issues that this creates.
This thread has deleted posts both critical and supportive of the moderation required to keep it on topic: the element that believe it is discriminatory should be aware of that.
This is the only post on this subject. Any further posts not on topic will be deleted.
SeniorPilot
Really! Why not let sleeping dogs ly! and as I asked let the dust settle? Every time you guys cleanse this thread it seems to erupt again? I see Bast0n post has been removed? I guess a ban as welll?
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KLM Helikopters S58T
Originally Posted by terminus mos
I never knew that KLM had S-58Ts or BO 105s. Who did their S-58 Twin Pac conversions?
Old US Army helo Operators Manuals on Google Books
I was wondering whether this would be better on AH&N (or in the Rotorheads flight manuals thread), but I thought some Rotorheads might like to see these ...
Google has digitized some old US Army operator's manuals held in library collections.
You can download a PDF by clicking the drop-down next to the cog shaped icon (on the right). Google eBooks terms of service apply - they appear on the front page of the downloaded PDF.
OH-6A Operators Manual: Helicopter, Observation OH-6A. - Google Books
CH-54B Operators' Manual: Army Model CH-54B Helicopter - Google Books
What a mighty beast!
UH-1H UH-1H/V Helicopter: Operator's Manual - Google Books
I found a few others e.g. AH-1S, AH-64A, as well as maintenance manuals.
Google has digitized some old US Army operator's manuals held in library collections.
You can download a PDF by clicking the drop-down next to the cog shaped icon (on the right). Google eBooks terms of service apply - they appear on the front page of the downloaded PDF.
OH-6A Operators Manual: Helicopter, Observation OH-6A. - Google Books
CH-54B Operators' Manual: Army Model CH-54B Helicopter - Google Books
What a mighty beast!
UH-1H UH-1H/V Helicopter: Operator's Manual - Google Books
I found a few others e.g. AH-1S, AH-64A, as well as maintenance manuals.
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Airfast Australia which grew from its origin as HUPL (Helicopter Utilities Pty Ltd) from whom a few posters here used to work used to do the S58 twinpac conversions in Sydney at their Mascot base. I remember some excitement from some of their staff proclaiming the fact around late 1971 I think it was.
When Airfast Australia went into receivership around mid to late 1975, I assume that was when Airfast Indonesia was split off and set up as its own company. Perhaps the Indonesian outfit inherited quite some tooling then, although I am only postulating. Their journey into receivership was not accompanied with acrimony as they so often are.. I am hazy on dates as I worked for Killen then but not as a direct Airfast employee, in fact he sponsored me my first Helicopter license in early 1974 (private and at that time only $AU2300 worth) so from my point of view he did me a fantastic turn.
At its peak Airfast operated 104 helicopters and some 32 F/W, Even though some of Mr. Killens investments had turned sour its demise was principally brought about by the advent of the Whitlam Labor Govt which in turn immediately precipitated a mass walkout by exploration companies in Australia. Some 57 of airfast helicopters were without work in a time frame of about 48 hours.
When Airfast Australia went into receivership around mid to late 1975, I assume that was when Airfast Indonesia was split off and set up as its own company. Perhaps the Indonesian outfit inherited quite some tooling then, although I am only postulating. Their journey into receivership was not accompanied with acrimony as they so often are.. I am hazy on dates as I worked for Killen then but not as a direct Airfast employee, in fact he sponsored me my first Helicopter license in early 1974 (private and at that time only $AU2300 worth) so from my point of view he did me a fantastic turn.
At its peak Airfast operated 104 helicopters and some 32 F/W, Even though some of Mr. Killens investments had turned sour its demise was principally brought about by the advent of the Whitlam Labor Govt which in turn immediately precipitated a mass walkout by exploration companies in Australia. Some 57 of airfast helicopters were without work in a time frame of about 48 hours.
Bryce Killen gave others a leg up in that way. At Kieta there was Don Hutton who did his CPL H with Buck Ryan (I think) then before going off to Bougainville to do CRA support work did a stint as manager at Eagle Farm of Westernair Navigation that Airfast/HUPL had bought from Barry Kerr.
Don was given free training in return for managerial input.
Don had flown Daks for the RNZAF on the Berlin Airlift. He was
a live-wire with a fund of brilliant anecdotes. Native of Hamilton NZ if I remember rightly. Tried to track him down a few years ago. No go.
TET . .. . . . Arthur Dunn in the Mascot hangar used to give me a copy of the pink sheets that listed where every aircraft in the fleet was. Not that I ever worked there. Just used to take a short cut through the hangar regularly, so got to know Arthur and Frank and a few others. Found Bryce aloof. As though his mind was always off on another planet or scheme. A very dapper chappy tho'.
Don was given free training in return for managerial input.
Don had flown Daks for the RNZAF on the Berlin Airlift. He was
a live-wire with a fund of brilliant anecdotes. Native of Hamilton NZ if I remember rightly. Tried to track him down a few years ago. No go.
TET . .. . . . Arthur Dunn in the Mascot hangar used to give me a copy of the pink sheets that listed where every aircraft in the fleet was. Not that I ever worked there. Just used to take a short cut through the hangar regularly, so got to know Arthur and Frank and a few others. Found Bryce aloof. As though his mind was always off on another planet or scheme. A very dapper chappy tho'.
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I flew for HUPL from 1968 to 1970 & then part time to 1974. It was a great company to work for & unlike some, they paid me every cent owed plus a bonus for being a good boy!
I think it was Don who was killed when he flew a 206 into the sea off Hayman or Heron Island when some idiots fired off some emergency flares at night. Don & the hotel manager both went to investigate & unfortunately were killed. If it wasn't Don, it was Dave, memory problems!
I believe Bryce put too many money into his cattle station & didn't have enough left over for HUPL. Both the ops in Indonesia & Fiji were sold off; I believe Don may have worked in Fiji for a while.
I think it was Don who was killed when he flew a 206 into the sea off Hayman or Heron Island when some idiots fired off some emergency flares at night. Don & the hotel manager both went to investigate & unfortunately were killed. If it wasn't Don, it was Dave, memory problems!
I believe Bryce put too many money into his cattle station & didn't have enough left over for HUPL. Both the ops in Indonesia & Fiji were sold off; I believe Don may have worked in Fiji for a while.
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Evening,
Apologies to change mood, but just silly stuff
since it's Friday - ?
Shamelessly lifted from the HiddenGlasgow forum, a
clip from a promotion about Cumbernauld New Town
from over 30 years back;
At 00:47 G-BAYA Bell 206 PLM arrives in shot.
Crew attire !
Scotland on Screen - Cumbernauld Hit (clip 1)
.
Evening,
Apologies to change mood, but just silly stuff
since it's Friday - ?
Shamelessly lifted from the HiddenGlasgow forum, a
clip from a promotion about Cumbernauld New Town
from over 30 years back;
At 00:47 G-BAYA Bell 206 PLM arrives in shot.
Crew attire !
Scotland on Screen - Cumbernauld Hit (clip 1)
.
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A new Nostalgia?
The topic is 'Nostalgia' .... once described as the 'finest thread ever on PP' so just to bring it back to the front row of the grid and a few questions.
Is the D of W still flying rotary?
Ditto his pilot Ken?
Is the renamed G-TALY still flying?
DK here is verging on old age with retirement bearing down like a Damacles' Sword. How are the other COFs on here coping with the Anno Domini thingy? I'm watching too much TV! DRK
Is the D of W still flying rotary?
Ditto his pilot Ken?
Is the renamed G-TALY still flying?
DK here is verging on old age with retirement bearing down like a Damacles' Sword. How are the other COFs on here coping with the Anno Domini thingy? I'm watching too much TV! DRK
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Lycoming reliability.
Oh and for Eons and X thousand hours, I've been crowing I've never had an engine failure. One of your lot pointed the bone last week when a cylinder let go ... big ... but oh so kindly on the Haverford airfield approach. 'Twas Enstrom 1104. Someone up there loves me! DK