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Old 29th Jan 2014, 13:47
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Old US Army helo Operators Manuals on Google Books

I was wondering whether this would be better on AH&N (or in the Rotorheads flight manuals thread), but I thought some Rotorheads might like to see these ...

Google has digitized some old US Army operator's manuals held in library collections.

You can download a PDF by clicking the drop-down next to the cog shaped icon (on the right). Google eBooks terms of service apply - they appear on the front page of the downloaded PDF.

OH-6A Operators Manual: Helicopter, Observation OH-6A. - Google Books

CH-54B Operators' Manual: Army Model CH-54B Helicopter - Google Books
What a mighty beast!

UH-1H UH-1H/V Helicopter: Operator's Manual - Google Books

I found a few others e.g. AH-1S, AH-64A, as well as maintenance manuals.
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Old 29th Jan 2014, 19:53
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Airfast Australia which grew from its origin as HUPL (Helicopter Utilities Pty Ltd) from whom a few posters here used to work used to do the S58 twinpac conversions in Sydney at their Mascot base. I remember some excitement from some of their staff proclaiming the fact around late 1971 I think it was.

When Airfast Australia went into receivership around mid to late 1975, I assume that was when Airfast Indonesia was split off and set up as its own company. Perhaps the Indonesian outfit inherited quite some tooling then, although I am only postulating. Their journey into receivership was not accompanied with acrimony as they so often are.. I am hazy on dates as I worked for Killen then but not as a direct Airfast employee, in fact he sponsored me my first Helicopter license in early 1974 (private and at that time only $AU2300 worth) so from my point of view he did me a fantastic turn.
At its peak Airfast operated 104 helicopters and some 32 F/W, Even though some of Mr. Killens investments had turned sour its demise was principally brought about by the advent of the Whitlam Labor Govt which in turn immediately precipitated a mass walkout by exploration companies in Australia. Some 57 of airfast helicopters were without work in a time frame of about 48 hours.
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Old 29th Jan 2014, 21:20
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Bryce Killen gave others a leg up in that way. At Kieta there was Don Hutton who did his CPL H with Buck Ryan (I think) then before going off to Bougainville to do CRA support work did a stint as manager at Eagle Farm of Westernair Navigation that Airfast/HUPL had bought from Barry Kerr.

Don was given free training in return for managerial input.

Don had flown Daks for the RNZAF on the Berlin Airlift. He was
a live-wire with a fund of brilliant anecdotes. Native of Hamilton NZ if I remember rightly. Tried to track him down a few years ago. No go.

TET . .. . . . Arthur Dunn in the Mascot hangar used to give me a copy of the pink sheets that listed where every aircraft in the fleet was. Not that I ever worked there. Just used to take a short cut through the hangar regularly, so got to know Arthur and Frank and a few others. Found Bryce aloof. As though his mind was always off on another planet or scheme. A very dapper chappy tho'.
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Old 29th Jan 2014, 23:33
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I flew for HUPL from 1968 to 1970 & then part time to 1974. It was a great company to work for & unlike some, they paid me every cent owed plus a bonus for being a good boy!

I think it was Don who was killed when he flew a 206 into the sea off Hayman or Heron Island when some idiots fired off some emergency flares at night. Don & the hotel manager both went to investigate & unfortunately were killed. If it wasn't Don, it was Dave, memory problems!

I believe Bryce put too many money into his cattle station & didn't have enough left over for HUPL. Both the ops in Indonesia & Fiji were sold off; I believe Don may have worked in Fiji for a while.
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Old 31st Jan 2014, 22:55
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Evening,

Apologies to change mood, but just silly stuff
since it's Friday - ?

Shamelessly lifted from the HiddenGlasgow forum, a
clip from a promotion about Cumbernauld New Town
from over 30 years back;

At 00:47 G-BAYA Bell 206 PLM arrives in shot.
Crew attire !

Scotland on Screen - Cumbernauld Hit (clip 1)

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Old 1st Feb 2014, 00:36
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Worth watching to see a legendary fantasy figure for hormone tormented lads back in the day
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Old 25th Mar 2014, 17:03
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Do you think PLM stood for "please lick mine"
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Old 2nd Apr 2014, 15:26
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A new Nostalgia?

The topic is 'Nostalgia' .... once described as the 'finest thread ever on PP' so just to bring it back to the front row of the grid and a few questions.

Is the D of W still flying rotary?

Ditto his pilot Ken?

Is the renamed G-TALY still flying?

DK here is verging on old age with retirement bearing down like a Damacles' Sword. How are the other COFs on here coping with the Anno Domini thingy? I'm watching too much TV! DRK
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Old 2nd Apr 2014, 15:36
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Lycoming reliability.

Oh and for Eons and X thousand hours, I've been crowing I've never had an engine failure. One of your lot pointed the bone last week when a cylinder let go ... big ... but oh so kindly on the Haverford airfield approach. 'Twas Enstrom 1104. Someone up there loves me! DK
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Old 2nd Apr 2014, 18:34
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Originally Posted by Dennis Kenyon View Post
DK here is verging on old age with retirement bearing down like a Damacles' Sword. How are the other COFs on here coping with the Anno Domini thingy? I'm watching too much TV! DRK
TV? Dennis, go out and get a motorbike. It isn't the complete substitute for being airborne but it does relieve the tension instead of watching SWMBO doing the gardening

Never enough flying for a true RH, but watch TV as an option? Never!


Sorry to hear that you've finally had an engine failure: why do I get the impression that it would have been a bit of a non-event?
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Old 2nd Apr 2014, 19:07
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G-TALY still alive

For DK,

Looked up TALY and is still flying as DATR, having just changed from JLEE on 14/03/14 .

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Old 2nd Apr 2014, 19:57
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Helios & Bikes

Now, why did I think someone would suggest that John ... its been almost sixty years since I first rode a Speed Twin and then a Tiger 100. Not sure I could stay upright any more so perhaps I should just watch the I of M TT guys on TV! And thanks for the TALY update. Regards to all. DRK.
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Old 18th Apr 2014, 11:05
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The History of the Helicopter: YouTube

British Pathe have uploaded thousands of early films to YouTube, including The History of the Helicopter along with many others in their account:



This one has memories: Dad was OiC of the Met helicopter trial



Plenty more to whet your appetite



156mph, and a retractable too:

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Old 18th Apr 2014, 16:12
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MBB BO-105 question

Hi folks,

I'm looking for some information and hoping someone on here could help me out. I know very little about helicopters; I'm an instrument tech that works offshore so I just sit in the back. I'm a keen scale modeller and I'm currently trying to recreate helicopters that have flown in the North Sea for rig worker transport.

At present I'm building a 1/72 scale MBB BO-105 operated by North Scottish circa 1976 - 77. The reg is G-BDYZ (I think there's some photos of her earlier on in this thread). These were used a bit before my time (I'm use to super puma L1 & L2, 225's & S-92's) - from what I'm aware these were used as shuttle aircraft during the early 'hook-up' days and would take 4 pax plus the pilot. My main question and sorry if this is a daft one, but as one passenger would be in the front, would one of the cyclics be removed?
Further to this; any information about the Bölkows operated by North Scottish / Management Aviation would be much appreciated (notes about the interior, seats, boot, colours etc)

Sorry for the long winded question. Thanks in advance for any information.

Thanks and Regards
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Old 19th Apr 2014, 05:20
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I spent over a year flying the 105 for North Scottish, an excellent company. They were mainly used for inter shuttle work as the workers did 12 hour shifts, so we would swap them at 0600 & 1800 or noon/midnight. We also did some medevacs & flights from Longside or Aberdeen as well as some important staff changes. Fuel load allowing we carried 4 pax, I think the left hand controls were removed, can't remember now!
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Old 19th Apr 2014, 08:05
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milktrip,

On the Brent Field we had North Scottish Bo105 in their white colour scheme, which was used as a 'taxi' against the BEAS 212 'bus'.

I only passengered in a 105 once, but it was certainly very cramped in the back, and there were no duals in the front. ISTR that there was a liferaft stowed behind the pilot's seat which precluded the use of the right rear seat, limiting the pax to three. This may have been a local requirement, however.
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Old 19th Apr 2014, 08:58
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It's a legal requirement for duals to be removed if a passenger is carried in a crew seat for a PT flight.

Better not have duals in in case your model gets ramp checked.....
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Old 19th Apr 2014, 09:57
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Cheers guys excellent stuff.

When you say no duals in the front does that mean the front 'passenger seat' tail rotor pedals and pitch control lever were also removed or just the cyclic?

Interesting point about the liferaft John. I wondered about this and was just going to role up a ball of milliput, paint it orange a stow it under the rear bench seats, but I'll maybe look a bit further into this. This one will be in the white scheme but I'm hoping to complete a couple more in time (G-BAMF in management aviation colours. G-BAFD in Bond colours, I think this may have been used for lighthouse ops rather offshore oil & gas transport / shuttle. Oh, and maybe another north scottish Bölkow but I the luminous red, almost orange, colour) plenty to keep me busy

You mention the 212, I'm hoping to build a couple of these too. In particular G-BALZ in early bristows livery. Some info on the interior of the 212's would be handy . There are loads of photos available but trying to determine what the seating type and seating arrangement were has proven difficult. When in operation in the UK North Sea would the 212 (specifically G-BALZ) have canvas bench seating with 4 facing aft, another 4 facing front and 2 either side, just next to the doors, facing out wards. Or similar seating arrangement but with more substantial and comfier looking seats with head rests?

BEAS are another operator I was looking into but was quite interested in the alouette II operated by them but for the forestry spreading in the late 60's early 70's. again, plenty to keep me occupied...

Thanks and regards
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Old 19th Apr 2014, 11:31
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You mention the 212, I'm hoping to build a couple of these too. In particular G-BALZ in early bristows livery. Some info on the interior of the 212's would be handy . There are loads of photos available but trying to determine what the seating type and seating arrangement were has proven difficult. When in operation in the UK North Sea would the 212 (specifically G-BALZ) have canvas bench seating with 4 facing aft, another 4 facing front and 2 either side, just next to the doors, facing out wards. Or similar seating arrangement but with more substantial and comfier looking seats with head rests?

BEAS are another operator I was looking into but was quite interested in the alouette II operated by them but for the forestry spreading in the late 60's early 70's. again, plenty to keep me occupied...

Thanks and regards
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BALZ was operated in the Brent Field by BEAS, so the North Sea scheme would be the Bristow one for 1977 with B.E.A.S. on the tailboom instead of Bristow.

Normal fit for the 4 BEAS 212s were the normal 4 aft facing/5 fwd facing bench seats in the normal Bell grey with a 20usg tank in the port well with two cushion seats, and either another 20usg tank in the starboard well with seats, or a 90usg tank with (obviously) no seats. Initially we had a life raft jammed under the fwd bench seats, but later this was acknowledged to be virtually useless so a Heath Robinson fix had it lashed with a seat belt to the starboard door ahead of the sliding door. In this configuration the liferaft (they all had a yellow cover) was sitting on end and visible through the small window that you can see in the middle of the photo.

Sometimes we had two 90 gallon tanks and only 9 pax seats, but very rarely. This photo of BALZ has the 90usg in the stbd well and the modified tailboom paint job:

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Old 19th Apr 2014, 13:35
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When you say no duals in the front does that mean the front 'passenger seat' tail rotor pedals and pitch control lever were also removed or just the cyclic?
The rules require that the whole lot should be removed, however the design of some aircraft means this is impossible. I don't know about this specific aircraft type.
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