MD - All Not Good in Mesa
Shame there is so much personal comment, , as said before don't care about LT as long as things get better, I did have course as previously posted to email the lady & the response was instant, up till that time we felt we were getting the run around, coincidence may be but perhaps not, we had the answers in hours.
The problems with AOG spares have improved by leaps & bounds.
Some people do not like the 600 perhaps they should have looked at mission role closer, could it be it was not the platform for them
The problems with AOG spares have improved by leaps & bounds.
Some people do not like the 600 perhaps they should have looked at mission role closer, could it be it was not the platform for them
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In '99 when the 500, 600 and 900 lines were sold off from Boeing/MD I was involved in a number of meetings with the new MD Helicopter Holdings management in which strategy was discussed.
I said at the time that their biggest risk was of becoming a one product firm and which is exactly what they have become and even that, the 900 series, will soon require modernization.
500 spares will keep them turning over but recent ownership while busy doing a lot of 'stuff' has resolved nothing in terms of securing any realistic hope for the company's future.
The killer, really, was carving up the company and from which I just dont expect MDH to ultimately survive. Would love to be wrong though!
HM
I said at the time that their biggest risk was of becoming a one product firm and which is exactly what they have become and even that, the 900 series, will soon require modernization.
500 spares will keep them turning over but recent ownership while busy doing a lot of 'stuff' has resolved nothing in terms of securing any realistic hope for the company's future.
The killer, really, was carving up the company and from which I just dont expect MDH to ultimately survive. Would love to be wrong though!
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So where's the Tail Boom pic ?
Couldn't find it anywhere, but Googling "Lynn-Tilton-XMAS-Card"
brings up a couple of interesting results
.... and after all ..... it will soon be Christmas
Couldn't find it anywhere, but Googling "Lynn-Tilton-XMAS-Card"
brings up a couple of interesting results
.... and after all ..... it will soon be Christmas
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No - Not the cyclic, just a doomed Military project
I was going to post the actual XMas card from when she was a mere salesgirl back in the late '80's,
and didn't because I think that might have breached copywrite somewhere,
but if you click the link so skillfully located by the good Earl, you will get the idea !
I doubt there will be too many Christmas cards or bonuses from MD this year -
What's the real story behind the production line closing ?
I was going to post the actual XMas card from when she was a mere salesgirl back in the late '80's,
and didn't because I think that might have breached copywrite somewhere,
but if you click the link so skillfully located by the good Earl, you will get the idea !
I doubt there will be too many Christmas cards or bonuses from MD this year -
What's the real story behind the production line closing ?
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The other shareholder in MD
Could the other MD shareholders story be part of the problem?
The Dutch are looking closely at the RDM firm and their associates or whatever they are calling themselves these days?
Somebody got a huge bonus here. Got this in an email today, makes interesting reading!
CorpWatch : Pinochet's Dutch Secret
The Dutch are looking closely at the RDM firm and their associates or whatever they are calling themselves these days?
Somebody got a huge bonus here. Got this in an email today, makes interesting reading!
CorpWatch : Pinochet's Dutch Secret
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IMHO, Coconutty's pix of LT is one of the most appealing I have seen of her. Just mildy provocative, not the cheap hooker look she usually exhibits. Leaves much to the imagination, which is good unless one has a perfect body. Like many women, LT can be quite attractive when dressed approproiately (not in the show-it-all style we are accustomed to seeing). No amont of skin will earn my respect. Leading MD to a roaring success would surely do so.
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Xmas for some, jail for others.
Thanks to my fellow ppruner for sending me the LT pic but I dont know how to attach it? Its an age thing I know, nearly pension time for me
On a more serious note, I read this and wonder if the Dutch Police contract was really cancelled because of weight issues on the Explorer, when the Police investigation into RDM was going on over there!
There may be further questions by the british authorities after this has all come out! Jail time for one man behind RDM/Elite and their operations!
CorpWatch : CorpWatch Bribery Report Helps Spark Dutch Inquiry
DutchNews.nl - Controversial Dutch businessman arrested
On a more serious note, I read this and wonder if the Dutch Police contract was really cancelled because of weight issues on the Explorer, when the Police investigation into RDM was going on over there!
There may be further questions by the british authorities after this has all come out! Jail time for one man behind RDM/Elite and their operations!
CorpWatch : CorpWatch Bribery Report Helps Spark Dutch Inquiry
DutchNews.nl - Controversial Dutch businessman arrested
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I don't think it takes a shrink to figure where she's comin from. If she were my daughter I'd hold her under a cold shower while I explained a little about what it means to have some self respect.
Re: the photo - it would suit a caption contest!
HM
Re: the photo - it would suit a caption contest!
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caption
Captions for the LT photo;
I bet the other MD shareholder Joep said,
' Here lass, hang on to this while I'm in the clink'
or could it be;
'Every extra inch in that tail boom counts'
I bet the other MD shareholder Joep said,
' Here lass, hang on to this while I'm in the clink'
or could it be;
'Every extra inch in that tail boom counts'
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I think that was part of the problem, the fact that people did take her seriously.
To be fair to the old girl she's fallen victim to that most unforgiving of industries which, if you don't know exactly what you are doing, will turn around and bite you in the ass - and there are a few sore asses around as living proof.
Seasoned US investor Warren Buffet (owner of NetJets) has many a time warned investors to "stay the hell away from aviation" unless they have experienced (aviation) management teams to support them.
HM
To be fair to the old girl she's fallen victim to that most unforgiving of industries which, if you don't know exactly what you are doing, will turn around and bite you in the ass - and there are a few sore asses around as living proof.
Seasoned US investor Warren Buffet (owner of NetJets) has many a time warned investors to "stay the hell away from aviation" unless they have experienced (aviation) management teams to support them.
HM
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One of the BIG problems with Tilton is that she turned the MD management offices into a revolving door. I can count five different CEOs in a few seconds. She would always come up with some reason for firing higher up management when they didnt do EXACTLY what SHE wanted, and these were people who spent a lifetime in the helicopter industry.
When you try and micro manage the experts you have put in there to do the job then they have no choice but to leave. And besides if you talk to her she knows everything about everything so they are on a hiding to nothing anyway.
When you try and micro manage the experts you have put in there to do the job then they have no choice but to leave. And besides if you talk to her she knows everything about everything so they are on a hiding to nothing anyway.
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I'd want to know if I was working there....
Been called a few things in the army, but never a reporter!
No agenda here, just think the pilots and engineers who work for the dutchman should know whats been going on abroad and who is in charge. It all seems well known in other countries, but not by the PAS line pilots in the UK?
If I was a reporter I would have been printing it all Notar, not telling the UK pilots, now would I...... think about it
As I said before dont slot the messenger...end of message.
No agenda here, just think the pilots and engineers who work for the dutchman should know whats been going on abroad and who is in charge. It all seems well known in other countries, but not by the PAS line pilots in the UK?
If I was a reporter I would have been printing it all Notar, not telling the UK pilots, now would I...... think about it
As I said before dont slot the messenger...end of message.