AS350 Nutter in NI
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AS350 Nutter:
If indeed you are the pilot...
I would LOVE to know what really happened. I'm not trying to start a witch hunt, I don't care what licence you have, or what AOC you were under. I am genuinely curious what you thought happened and what went through your mind.
In the interests of sharing information that people might learn from please tell your story.
Maybe one day when a low hours pilot is picking people up from a confined site, and the cameras are on him, he will think back to this video/your story and take it slow and careful.
If indeed you are the pilot...
I would LOVE to know what really happened. I'm not trying to start a witch hunt, I don't care what licence you have, or what AOC you were under. I am genuinely curious what you thought happened and what went through your mind.
In the interests of sharing information that people might learn from please tell your story.
Maybe one day when a low hours pilot is picking people up from a confined site, and the cameras are on him, he will think back to this video/your story and take it slow and careful.
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Hi Everyone
Just after speaking to a few of the guests at that wedding, they have told me that the flight took place with winds at 20kts gusting 50-60 kts maybe more, cant be 100% sure. On board were the newly married couple and their 6 month old baby. They have stated that they will never ever set foot inside another helicopter ever again. That flight should never have happenened on a day when the winds were so strong especially when a child was on board. Well Done Nutter this type off flying does wonders for the industry.
Just after speaking to a few of the guests at that wedding, they have told me that the flight took place with winds at 20kts gusting 50-60 kts maybe more, cant be 100% sure. On board were the newly married couple and their 6 month old baby. They have stated that they will never ever set foot inside another helicopter ever again. That flight should never have happenened on a day when the winds were so strong especially when a child was on board. Well Done Nutter this type off flying does wonders for the industry.
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Well that response just about sums it up and validates every comment so far.
Send me details of how to achieve that and I will oblige. .Persecution?? Do you still hold a valid license? Persecution is when you will loose it
You sir are a blight on the helicopter community and not only that you are a total F
wit. The video alone is enough.
I cannot help feeling that the OP is not the culprit because I fail to understand such rank stupidity. Wind up right?
Hi everyone I am the pilot of the 350 and really don’t understand what the big deal is!
I think it is pretty sad that some of you are trying to persecute me publicly and don’t have the balls to speak to me face to face.
You sir are a blight on the helicopter community and not only that you are a total F
wit. The video alone is enough.I cannot help feeling that the OP is not the culprit because I fail to understand such rank stupidity. Wind up right?
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Yes new to pprune and appears so far to be a load of critical helicopter pilots! Not to mention ill informed pilots as well eg AOC not required for PVT flt! For the person who thinks they are in CSI because they noticed I edited my message 3 times who honestly gives a TOSS! I am aware of who most of you are and some of you are sadder than I thought!
PS You’ve been had!
Leave the guy alone to reflect on what happened.
PS You’ve been had!
Leave the guy alone to reflect on what happened.
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PS You’ve been had!
...and if you were really new to Pprune, you wouldn't have the first clue who everyone is
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What a ****
The breakdown of the nutter.
If it was a mechanical fault everyone would now about it . Helicopter world is way too small
If it was hydraulics i think people that know him would have said something in his defense by now .
It scares me to think that i share the same skies as this person .
Unless there is some other explanation this person should have the "IAA"( if they exist at all ) on him like a ton of bricks .
Evidence wouldnt be too hard to track down !!
If it was a mechanical fault everyone would now about it . Helicopter world is way too small
If it was hydraulics i think people that know him would have said something in his defense by now .
It scares me to think that i share the same skies as this person .
Unless there is some other explanation this person should have the "IAA"( if they exist at all ) on him like a ton of bricks .
Evidence wouldnt be too hard to track down !!
I dont see any reason why the flight could not have taken place even with baby on board and strong winds unless , as i suspect, the pilot was not experienced enough to do it alone and should have taken a safety pilot with him. I personally stayed away from weddings etc until i had a few hundred hours under my belt. The aircraft is more than capable of doing it safely....
also , unless it was a B3 it would without any doubt have exceeded limits on torque etc and this should have been reported to its maintenance organisation. Lets see if the pilot compounds his problems by not doing this and i for one would be unhappy to fly in that machine until checks have been made. Who wants to bet that his other heli,s a robbo
my apologies to all robbo drivers . To put you in the same category as nutter is unduly offensive.
also , unless it was a B3 it would without any doubt have exceeded limits on torque etc and this should have been reported to its maintenance organisation. Lets see if the pilot compounds his problems by not doing this and i for one would be unhappy to fly in that machine until checks have been made. Who wants to bet that his other heli,s a robbo
my apologies to all robbo drivers . To put you in the same category as nutter is unduly offensive.
Last edited by nigelh; 11th Dec 2007 at 00:03. Reason: unduly horrid to robbo drivers !!
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Not quite on board with who knows who and what not, me working on the other side of the pond as you would say...
Was he showing off?....who knows and if he was he deserves the critisism.
If he took off downwind and got caught well good on him for getting it back. Although I must note that a 350 will lift a gross load downwind sometimes better than into wind ... just make sure you have the room for translation!
As for taking off with the HYD OFF, I would leave that up to the investigating authorities.
To Keep It Simple: To those of you working on a professional basis tell me you havn't done something that seemed so "cool" at the time and then get caught?!!! Probably not many I'm willing to bet. Forgot that "button" so to speak?
Won't comment on the private issue but regardless of whether you are Commercial or Private a guy sometimes screws up. This guy just got caught on film...same as that Aircrane going bass-ackwards.
Regardless of whether or not he "screwed up", "came close", or "putting on the piss"...he did recover and I hope his company will take the appropriate actions. But always remember that He as PIC did recover regardless of the actions/maintenance that precluded it.
Happy it ended well
BWB
Was he showing off?....who knows and if he was he deserves the critisism.
If he took off downwind and got caught well good on him for getting it back. Although I must note that a 350 will lift a gross load downwind sometimes better than into wind ... just make sure you have the room for translation!
As for taking off with the HYD OFF, I would leave that up to the investigating authorities.
To Keep It Simple: To those of you working on a professional basis tell me you havn't done something that seemed so "cool" at the time and then get caught?!!! Probably not many I'm willing to bet. Forgot that "button" so to speak?
Won't comment on the private issue but regardless of whether you are Commercial or Private a guy sometimes screws up. This guy just got caught on film...same as that Aircrane going bass-ackwards.
Regardless of whether or not he "screwed up", "came close", or "putting on the piss"...he did recover and I hope his company will take the appropriate actions. But always remember that He as PIC did recover regardless of the actions/maintenance that precluded it.
Happy it ended well
BWB
Is there anyone on here who knows the maintenance organisation who look after this a/c? Interested to know, as one poster above, if this non-standard maneouvre has been reported. Would it benefit the engineers watching it on Youtube to see what they should be looking for?
If there was a 6 month old baby on board too, i'm sorry but this, to me, is even more out of order. My personal thought is that Bloke is obviously a cnut and I stand by that. No excuses.
If there was a 6 month old baby on board too, i'm sorry but this, to me, is even more out of order. My personal thought is that Bloke is obviously a cnut and I stand by that. No excuses.
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Well done NUTTER for the wind up ! To the rest of you speculators give it a break. Nobody sets out to make such a mistake in a helicopter ,and yes the pilot did recover the situation well. If the helicopter was over TQ ed it will show on the VEMD as an over limit. It makes me cringe to hear all the dumb comments from the experts[?] who have NEVER made a mistake...
The most important thing is that we ALL learn from situations like this ,Im sure he did. Its sad to see all the negative posts from people who wouldnt have the balls to say it to his face but need the protection of a forum
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The CFI at NTards would be better off trying to help this guy with the offer of free training to help him rather to bash him on pprune,season of good will etc. Could someone from G-LARR engineering company suggest to owner that helicopter would need inspection.
Lets help this Person and hope he learns and suggest anymore comments are positive.
The most important thing is that we ALL learn from situations like this ,Im sure he did. Its sad to see all the negative posts from people who wouldnt have the balls to say it to his face but need the protection of a forum
.The CFI at NTards would be better off trying to help this guy with the offer of free training to help him rather to bash him on pprune,season of good will etc. Could someone from G-LARR engineering company suggest to owner that helicopter would need inspection.
Lets help this Person and hope he learns and suggest anymore comments are positive.
BIGJOCK, there is absolutley nothing to stop anyone arsing about in a helo if they are on their own, but to do it with newlyweds and a baby onboard, you think it's just a case of 'let him have a bit more training and he'll be right'?
Give me a break.
Also, if you think he recovered the situation well, you must be bloody blind. It was about 2 seconds from carnage and if thats a good recovery, then maybe I think with different limits to yourself. It was purely luck that he's not in a morgue or 6 foot under right now.
We've all probably made mistakes whilst flying which we've learned from, but I bet less than .5% on here have had anything like that happen with pax onboard.
Give me a break.
Also, if you think he recovered the situation well, you must be bloody blind. It was about 2 seconds from carnage and if thats a good recovery, then maybe I think with different limits to yourself. It was purely luck that he's not in a morgue or 6 foot under right now.
We've all probably made mistakes whilst flying which we've learned from, but I bet less than .5% on here have had anything like that happen with pax onboard.
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The CFI at NTards would be better off trying to help this guy with the offer of free training to help him rather to bash him on pprune
I doubt the sort of flying seen here was anything other than self taught, so how would a few expensive turbine hours spent with a FI help anyone, when as soon as they are solo they don their spurs?
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Also surprised at you southxross starting this thread. From someone in your position I would have expected a bit more sense, but will bear that in mind in future dealings. Ok any questions?
Glad someone agrees with me!
Yes it was a recovery, but it looked more like pure luck than anything else. If there had been any other tall buildings he would have hit them but lets not go there as we can only see one camera angle.
Just wait till someone like SKYnews gets a hold of it. That'll make it fun to watch on national TV. Maybe the couple onboard can sell theor story and sue the pilot?
Yes it was a recovery, but it looked more like pure luck than anything else. If there had been any other tall buildings he would have hit them but lets not go there as we can only see one camera angle.
Just wait till someone like SKYnews gets a hold of it. That'll make it fun to watch on national TV. Maybe the couple onboard can sell theor story and sue the pilot?