JAA IR Courses (including Converting FAA IR to JAA IR (Merged)

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From: A land not far from here.
Morning All.
Doing my IR exams in December (New Syllabus)...
Anyone got any good tips on what online question database to use?
Is bristols database still the most beneficial?
Any ideas?
Thanks very much..!
Doing my IR exams in December (New Syllabus)...
Anyone got any good tips on what online question database to use?
Is bristols database still the most beneficial?
Any ideas?
Thanks very much..!


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From: White Waltham, Prestwick & Calgary
Bristol would be fine - nothing with your provider?
Be aware that there are some questions about deicing eqpt that do not appear to be in the learning objectives. Also expect to use CAP 697 on the flight planning.
phil
Be aware that there are some questions about deicing eqpt that do not appear to be in the learning objectives. Also expect to use CAP 697 on the flight planning.
phil
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From: Ireland
Preparaton
So I booked myself onto an IR course for next year, converting from FAA IR.
I'm wondering what the best preparation will be for this? Obviously revising the JAA ATP instrument subjects but what else should I do to prepare? RANT XL?
Any suggestions welcome...
I'm wondering what the best preparation will be for this? Obviously revising the JAA ATP instrument subjects but what else should I do to prepare? RANT XL?
Any suggestions welcome...


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From: White Waltham, Prestwick & Calgary
RANT XL would be good - as is a copy of Flightsim - coming from the FAA world, you would need to practice ADF a fair bit - and between now and then, when you fly, do it as accurately as possible.
phil
phil

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Practice intercepts, holdings and approaches with this one, helps a lot.
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From: UK
This is really good, get a usb joystick and choose a simple plane with an autopilot (dont bother trying to hand fly it), then wizz round any hold/approach to your hearts content.
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From: US
Peter Panpan,
I am in a similar situation. I have an FAA ATP (H), FAA issued S-61 and S76 Type ratings, and a UK issued JAR CPL. I want to convert my IR, and of course I must show a ME rating for the IR. I asked the CAA, and 3 weeks later I got my reply. I must complete a ME type in JAR land along with my IR conversion. No credit toward my previous multi engine time given. It doesn't matter I have 3000 hours in Med and heavy Multi-engine helicopters, I still must pay for an extra 5 hours in a twin squirrel to get the ME rating.
I have decided to stay with my current job (overseas flying on my FAA license) for now instead of going this route. Good Luck to you.
I am in a similar situation. I have an FAA ATP (H), FAA issued S-61 and S76 Type ratings, and a UK issued JAR CPL. I want to convert my IR, and of course I must show a ME rating for the IR. I asked the CAA, and 3 weeks later I got my reply. I must complete a ME type in JAR land along with my IR conversion. No credit toward my previous multi engine time given. It doesn't matter I have 3000 hours in Med and heavy Multi-engine helicopters, I still must pay for an extra 5 hours in a twin squirrel to get the ME rating.
I have decided to stay with my current job (overseas flying on my FAA license) for now instead of going this route. Good Luck to you.


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From: White Waltham, Prestwick & Calgary
fly4cash - my understanding is that to get a type on the JAA licence, if you have over 500 hours, and are current, all you need to do is an LPC.
Will have another look at LASORS
Phil
Will have another look at LASORS
Phil
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@fly4cash here's the answer I got the UK CAA:
· You will be required to undertake 5 hours dual instrument instruction time of which 3 hours may be in a FS or FTD 2/3 or FNPT 11/111.
· Pass a ME (IR) H Skill Test
So you're right, seems like regardless of your background, you still need to go through those instruction hours and the Skill Test.
@Phil, you're right, 500 hours on type plus an LPC with a JAR TRE in order to lift the restriction otherwise your type rating is restricted to whatever country you're flying in. Now if you don't hold a ME IR in the first place then all you will get is a VFR type.
· You will be required to undertake 5 hours dual instrument instruction time of which 3 hours may be in a FS or FTD 2/3 or FNPT 11/111.
· Pass a ME (IR) H Skill Test
So you're right, seems like regardless of your background, you still need to go through those instruction hours and the Skill Test.
@Phil, you're right, 500 hours on type plus an LPC with a JAR TRE in order to lift the restriction otherwise your type rating is restricted to whatever country you're flying in. Now if you don't hold a ME IR in the first place then all you will get is a VFR type.

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From: Alps
Hello PPRuNers!
I am planning to do the IR(H) rating at EHC in Norway. Can anyone tell me something about EHC (quality of the course, flight instructors, housing etc.) and are 2 weeks for the sim and 2-3 weeks for the instruction in the helicopter realistic? (no type rating necessary because I am already rated on the AS 355)
thanks,
Alp
I am planning to do the IR(H) rating at EHC in Norway. Can anyone tell me something about EHC (quality of the course, flight instructors, housing etc.) and are 2 weeks for the sim and 2-3 weeks for the instruction in the helicopter realistic? (no type rating necessary because I am already rated on the AS 355)
thanks,
Alp
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From: Milky Way
AS355 TR/IR(H) Prof. check
Hey, It's always me: Chico, writing at night... 
I read all posts in this section, but unfortunately they look quite dated now.
Please, could someone knows where can I find a well maintained AS355 glass cockpit provider in UK or Northern Europe for Type and IR(H) Proficiency check?
Thanks guys!

I read all posts in this section, but unfortunately they look quite dated now.
Please, could someone knows where can I find a well maintained AS355 glass cockpit provider in UK or Northern Europe for Type and IR(H) Proficiency check?
Thanks guys!
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From: Ireland
You need to have 10 hours multi engine instrument training included your INITIAL IR training (when ever you got it). If not, that's a minimum for training part. That was for my converting requirements 2012 by EASA.
KM
KM
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From: Milky Way
Don't worry katismo, I'm EASA CPL holder with IR completed on AS355 obtained during old JAA ATPL modular course: 5 hours first endorsement on multi engine helicopter (now 8 on light weight non complex multi engine turbine aircraft). 20 flight hours on R44 IFR trainer, 22 hours on FNPT II simulator and last 10 IFR flight training on Twin Squirrel, the cheapest MET I found at that time... A jalopy helicopter, obsolete analogic IFR instr. equipped. Decidedly unattractive ugly wrek I flown guys..! 
Thanks for your suggestion paco!

Thanks for your suggestion paco!
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From: Milky Way
Now my priority is pass the prof. check, however I'm seeking for an actual avionic suit equipped helicopter. Ideal for me would be 355N/NP glass cockpit (one flight hour difference training only) but a recent updated cabin F2 type is the same.
Thanks a lot Phil!
Thanks a lot Phil!
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From: a bit here, a little there...
Hello all, I'm a EASA CPL(H) holder with Single Pilot Multi-Engine Instrument Rating still current. Next month I'll go to the USA to convert my licence. I'll probably remain there for a long period so my question is: can I perform an IR Proficiency Check on a single engine piston helicopter to an ATO in the United States for EASA IR Revalidation purpose? I would like to avoid to come back in Europe for a Prof. Check, so I tought about Bristow Academy. Sincerely, at the moment, I'm not so interested to keep current my EASA type rating on multi-engine (cost containment of course...), but the Instrument Rating only. Someone of you knows more about the issue?
Thanks!
CA2
Thanks!
CA2


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From: White Waltham, Prestwick & Calgary
I would probably talk to Martin Sims at Atlantic Helicopters in Florida - he does EASA check rides.
For IR currency, Helicopter Services at Wycombe might also be a good bet.
Phil
For IR currency, Helicopter Services at Wycombe might also be a good bet.
Phil



