Pilots who went on strike let go by PHI
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Don't know if this is helpfull or not. However I came down Harborside this afternoon and saw A PHI EMS. It was on the UTMB ER heli pad with rotors turning.
I don't have a dog in your fight, however I wish you well!!!
GLS62
Don't know if this is helpfull or not. However I came down Harborside this afternoon and saw A PHI EMS. It was on the UTMB ER heli pad with rotors turning.
I don't have a dog in your fight, however I wish you well!!!
GLS62
Found at the PHI Pilot Union web site......
Telephone Polling
We understand that PHI representatives are informally polling some of our members. We cannot be sure what their intent is, but you can be sure that they do not have your best interests at heart. When they call, please politely refuse to answer their question and refer them to your Union for whatever answers they may need. Rule 1 still applies!
Picketing and Handbilling
Thanks to a request filed for a temporary injunction filed by our attorney, the federal judge hearing the issue made a compromise order permitting to return to picketing at our original Highway 90 right-of-way site. We must comply with several constraints, but we hope that will be only until the issue can be heard and decided. That should happen in a week of so.
In addition to picketing, we are distributing handbills at selected locations. Today, Wednesday, we distributed handbills in New Orleans at One Shell Square. I understand that we were able to get handbills into the hands of several of the people we have flown in the past, and that the whole operation was generally very successful. We are hopeful that the people who should know about what is going on with our bargaining are finally getting our message.
It is our intention to broaden the scope of our handbilling with selected sites in Houston and other locations to be announced in the near future.
We understand that PHI representatives are informally polling some of our members. We cannot be sure what their intent is, but you can be sure that they do not have your best interests at heart. When they call, please politely refuse to answer their question and refer them to your Union for whatever answers they may need. Rule 1 still applies!
Picketing and Handbilling
Thanks to a request filed for a temporary injunction filed by our attorney, the federal judge hearing the issue made a compromise order permitting to return to picketing at our original Highway 90 right-of-way site. We must comply with several constraints, but we hope that will be only until the issue can be heard and decided. That should happen in a week of so.
In addition to picketing, we are distributing handbills at selected locations. Today, Wednesday, we distributed handbills in New Orleans at One Shell Square. I understand that we were able to get handbills into the hands of several of the people we have flown in the past, and that the whole operation was generally very successful. We are hopeful that the people who should know about what is going on with our bargaining are finally getting our message.
It is our intention to broaden the scope of our handbilling with selected sites in Houston and other locations to be announced in the near future.
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Chopter, that's a great photo but it doesn't prove anything. The date/time stamp looks photoshopped to me. Where did you find it? Not trying to be funny but there are just too many people on both sides who take to distorting reality to further their cause.
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Revolutionary,
I understand your concerns. The picture was emailed to me by another pilot also working in the gulf for Air Log, the picture is real.
At work I saw a lot of their B206 flying in the last 14 days, but I have only seen 1 S-76 landing offshore.
I understand your concerns. The picture was emailed to me by another pilot also working in the gulf for Air Log, the picture is real.
At work I saw a lot of their B206 flying in the last 14 days, but I have only seen 1 S-76 landing offshore.
Perhaps some have an agenda here.....pilots from Air Log are taking these photographs daily.
I have a friend that reports the same situation as depicted in the photograph.
I have no reason to doubt him at all.
I have a friend that reports the same situation as depicted in the photograph.
I have no reason to doubt him at all.
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I have to believe the above photo of the Houma base is real. It confirms my own observations a week ago, when I watched the first launch two days in a row from both of PHI's Houma facilities (the one pictured is part of PHI's main base, while a separate BP facility lies across the airport). The weather both days was perfect.
These would normally have been two of the busiest days of the week. Houma is a major base flying medium and heavy aircraft in support of one of our largest and most important customers. By 0800 only 1/3 to 1/2 of the normal departures had taken place. Additionally, on the first day we witnessed a large passenger bus arrive and discharge passengers who we learned had just come in from an all-night boat ride. A second bus was standing by.
My assigned aircraft (S-76C+) was tied down (normal when not scheduled to fly) and plugged (only done when the aircraft is not expected to fly for an extended period). My aircraft and those like it were purchased in order to provide significantly more reliable, more comfortable, and by virtue of their increased performance, safer transportation. As a result of this strike the company has elected to make compromises in these areas in order to maintain some level of service.
A drive-by of the Morgan City (Amelia) base at 0900 a week ago Tuesday revealed six 412s, six S-76s, two 214s, one S-92 and a 206, all parked and nothing moving or even running.
Other bits of information were relayed to me that further confirmed operational activity far below normal levels (and far below what the company has been claiming), but since that's heresay I won't detail it here.
Perhaps the union has made some tactical mistakes in the way this campaign has been conducted, however, PHI has made some very serious strategic mistakes. In pursuing such a hard line and refusing to seek a mediated solution, the company has done and continues to do irreparable harm to its relationship with some major customers. I won't speculate here on the reasons behind the company's actions.
Many long-serving company staff are probably oblivious to and unsupportive of the pilots' concerns because they don't interact with us much in the normal course of their duties. On the other hand they do interact constantly with and are supervised by those who advance the company's position.
-Stan-
I have to believe the above photo of the Houma base is real. It confirms my own observations a week ago, when I watched the first launch two days in a row from both of PHI's Houma facilities (the one pictured is part of PHI's main base, while a separate BP facility lies across the airport). The weather both days was perfect.
These would normally have been two of the busiest days of the week. Houma is a major base flying medium and heavy aircraft in support of one of our largest and most important customers. By 0800 only 1/3 to 1/2 of the normal departures had taken place. Additionally, on the first day we witnessed a large passenger bus arrive and discharge passengers who we learned had just come in from an all-night boat ride. A second bus was standing by.
My assigned aircraft (S-76C+) was tied down (normal when not scheduled to fly) and plugged (only done when the aircraft is not expected to fly for an extended period). My aircraft and those like it were purchased in order to provide significantly more reliable, more comfortable, and by virtue of their increased performance, safer transportation. As a result of this strike the company has elected to make compromises in these areas in order to maintain some level of service.
A drive-by of the Morgan City (Amelia) base at 0900 a week ago Tuesday revealed six 412s, six S-76s, two 214s, one S-92 and a 206, all parked and nothing moving or even running.
Other bits of information were relayed to me that further confirmed operational activity far below normal levels (and far below what the company has been claiming), but since that's heresay I won't detail it here.
Perhaps the union has made some tactical mistakes in the way this campaign has been conducted, however, PHI has made some very serious strategic mistakes. In pursuing such a hard line and refusing to seek a mediated solution, the company has done and continues to do irreparable harm to its relationship with some major customers. I won't speculate here on the reasons behind the company's actions.
Many long-serving company staff are probably oblivious to and unsupportive of the pilots' concerns because they don't interact with us much in the normal course of their duties. On the other hand they do interact constantly with and are supervised by those who advance the company's position.
-Stan-
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PHI SEC filing
Lifted this from JH. Thought it might be interesting since there are significant penalty's for misleading statements in these filings.
"PHI Filed a report with the SEC today. In it there are very specific numbers on the strike as well as predicted effects of the strike on the company. Remember, any overly optimistic statements in this report will open the company up for lawsuits from stockholders if they loose money.
"On September 20, 2006, approximately 210 pilots, or about
35% of the pilot workforce, commenced a strike after our
negotiations with the Office & Professional Employees
International Union with respect to a new collective bargaining
agreement ended without reaching an agreement. Although we
implemented our contingency plan on that date, approximately 20%
of the flights in our Domestic Oil and Gas segment, and 10% of
the flights in our Air Medical segment, remain curtailed.
Although we are willing to continue to negotiate with OPEIU, no such
negotiations currently are taking place and there can be no
assurance that any such negotiations would be successful, or as
to the terms of any agreement that may be reached. If we are
unable to resolve our differences with the union expeditiously
or to replace the lost flight hours, it could have a material
adverse effect on our operations, revenues and financial
condition, as well as on our relationships with customers."
Here's the link: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da...-06-008986.txt
I flew over the PHI Houma base in the picture at about 1600 hrs the day the picture was taken and it looked pretty much the same as in the picture.
DT
"PHI Filed a report with the SEC today. In it there are very specific numbers on the strike as well as predicted effects of the strike on the company. Remember, any overly optimistic statements in this report will open the company up for lawsuits from stockholders if they loose money.
"On September 20, 2006, approximately 210 pilots, or about
35% of the pilot workforce, commenced a strike after our
negotiations with the Office & Professional Employees
International Union with respect to a new collective bargaining
agreement ended without reaching an agreement. Although we
implemented our contingency plan on that date, approximately 20%
of the flights in our Domestic Oil and Gas segment, and 10% of
the flights in our Air Medical segment, remain curtailed.
Although we are willing to continue to negotiate with OPEIU, no such
negotiations currently are taking place and there can be no
assurance that any such negotiations would be successful, or as
to the terms of any agreement that may be reached. If we are
unable to resolve our differences with the union expeditiously
or to replace the lost flight hours, it could have a material
adverse effect on our operations, revenues and financial
condition, as well as on our relationships with customers."
Here's the link: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da...-06-008986.txt
I flew over the PHI Houma base in the picture at about 1600 hrs the day the picture was taken and it looked pretty much the same as in the picture.
DT
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Well, this filing is finally closer to the truth. It looks like Sarbanes-Oxley is working, and someone doesn't want to join Lay and Skilling (oh, right, Lay escaped, didn't he?) and has filed some amendments. The S-4 filing is about 500 pages of legalese saying "Bad news is coming very soon". The claims of low numbers of pilots on strike and high flight rates are now admitted to be incorrect. The company shills seem to have stopped coming around. Now the poor-mouthing starts, and the company will claim that the union is going to bankrupt it. The truth is that paying scabs 3 times what the union asked for in its initial offer is what will bankrupt the company. 
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SEC/Union Comparison
Comparison of "published" information on the number of pilots striking:
Union numbers:
New Iberia, LA, 22 September 2006. The Office and Professional Employees International Union (OPEIU) Local 108 reports today that as its pilots strike at PHI, Inc. begins its third day it has confirmed its earlier estimate of affecting 80% of PHI's helicopter fleet. "Today is the beginning of the workweek for the second 50% of our pilot force and support is as strong as with the other 50% if not stronger," said local 108 president, Steve Ragin.
SEC numbers:
Although we implemented our contingency plan on that date, approximately 20% of the flights in our Domestic Oil and Gas segment, and 10% of
the flights in our Air Medical segment, remain curtailed.
Not sure how the company is only missing 20% if 80% of the union membership is on strike.
Union numbers:
New Iberia, LA, 22 September 2006. The Office and Professional Employees International Union (OPEIU) Local 108 reports today that as its pilots strike at PHI, Inc. begins its third day it has confirmed its earlier estimate of affecting 80% of PHI's helicopter fleet. "Today is the beginning of the workweek for the second 50% of our pilot force and support is as strong as with the other 50% if not stronger," said local 108 president, Steve Ragin.
SEC numbers:
Although we implemented our contingency plan on that date, approximately 20% of the flights in our Domestic Oil and Gas segment, and 10% of
the flights in our Air Medical segment, remain curtailed.
Not sure how the company is only missing 20% if 80% of the union membership is on strike.
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The local 108 website lists 239 registered members as of today. I'm sure there are some members who are not registered on the union website but likely not very many considering the current need for timely information. I'm assuming that all 239 registered members (and the dozen or so members who are not registered online) are out on strike. And I bet that all non-members are at work.
There were about 570 pilots on the seniority list before the strike (including about a dozen management types who keep their flight status current). I'm arriving at less than 50 percent of the pilots on strike. Or, put another way, less than 50 percent support for the union's position. No matter what the outcome of this strike, the union leadership has some soul searching to do as to why that is.
By the way, the union website listed about 330 members at the beginning of this month.
There were about 570 pilots on the seniority list before the strike (including about a dozen management types who keep their flight status current). I'm arriving at less than 50 percent of the pilots on strike. Or, put another way, less than 50 percent support for the union's position. No matter what the outcome of this strike, the union leadership has some soul searching to do as to why that is.
By the way, the union website listed about 330 members at the beginning of this month.
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For starters:
Per GLS the current company S-4 out is “500 pages…” - actually it is about 186 pages as shown below. So I am starting think this is how we are getting 300 strikers out of 180 – maybe a trip to LenCrafters is in order or its something to do with the new fuzzy math around here
10-Q June 2006
TABLE OF CONTENTS
As for the comment “Well, this filing is finally closer to the truth. It looks like Sarbanes-Oxley is working…” Closer to what? This is NOTHING new. PHI has quoted the same information in their past filings – just as REQUIRED by S&O. So I’m sorry GLS – no conspiracy, no “poor-mouthing”, no lies, no bankruptcy – just business at 80% and growing. I copied several examples below – but you can see it at sec.gov.
10-Q June 2006
We currently are negotiating a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots.
We have been in negotiations and mediation with the OPEIU (the Office and Professional Employees International Union, which is the union representing our domestic pilot work force), since expiration of the collective bargaining agreement May 31, 2004. On July 28, 2006, the National Mediation Board released the parties from the mediation process. As a result, a 30-day “cooling off” period commenced and expires August 28, 2006. Following the cooling off period, the Company is free to do whatever is reasonably necessary to continue operations, and the union is free to engage in job actions, including work stoppages or a general strike. Although the outcome of these negotiations cannot be predicted, it is management’s intent to continue working toward an acceptable renewed collective bargaining agreement. We cannot predict the outcome of these negotiations nor when they might be concluded and such negotiations may result in an agreement that will materially increase our operating costs. Failure to reach a satisfactory agreement could result in work stoppages, strikes or other labor disruptions that could materially adversely affect our revenues, operations or financial condition.
S-4 July 10, 2006
We currently are negotiating a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots.
We are currently in negotiations with the Office & Professional Employees International Union regarding a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots. We cannot predict the outcome of these negotiations nor when they might be concluded and such negotiations may result in an agreement that will materially increase our operating costs. Failure to reach a satisfactory agreement could result in work stoppages, strikes or other labor disruptions that could materially adversely affect our revenues, operations or financial condition.
10-Q March 31, 2006
We currently are negotiating a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots.
We are currently in negotiations with the Office & Professional Employees International Union regarding a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots. We cannot predict the outcome of these negotiations nor when they might be concluded and such negotiations may result in an agreement that will materially increase our operating costs. Failure to reach a satisfactory agreement could result in work stoppages, strikes or other labor disruptions that could materially adversely affect our revenues, operations or financial condition.
424B3 March 30, 2006
We currently are negotiating a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots.
We are currently in negotiations with the Office & Professional Employees International Union regarding a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots. We cannot predict the outcome of these negotiations nor when they might be concluded and such negotiations may result in an agreement that will materially increase our operating costs. Failure to reach a satisfactory agreement could result in work stoppages, strikes or other labor disruptions that could materially adversely affect our revenues, operations or financial condition.
10-K December 31, 2005
We currently are negotiating a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots.
We are currently in negotiations with the Office of Professional Employees International Union (‘‘OPEIU’’) regarding a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots. We cannot predict the outcome of these negotiations nor when they might be concluded and such negotiations may result in an agreement that will materially increase our operating costs. Failure to reach a satisfactory agreement could result in work stoppages, strikes or other labor disruptions that could materially adversely affect our revenues, operations or financial condition.
Revo,
I’m not sure but I think the CareFlight members are somehow included in the 239 number.
W1
Mr. Moderator :Sorry for the formatting error - my bad
For starters:
Per GLS the current company S-4 out is “500 pages…” - actually it is about 186 pages as shown below. So I am starting think this is how we are getting 300 strikers out of 180 – maybe a trip to LenCrafters is in order or its something to do with the new fuzzy math around here
10-Q June 2006
TABLE OF CONTENTS
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Opinion of Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld LLP
Opinion of Jones, Walker, Waechter, Poitevent, Carrere and Denegre L.L.P.
Opinion of Crowley, Haughey, Hanson, Toole & Dietrich P.L.L.P.
Opinion of Jones, Walker, Waechter, Poitevent, Carrere & Denegre L.L.P.
Consent of Deloitte & Touche LLP
Statement of Eligibility on Form T-1 186 pages total
Opinion of Jones, Walker, Waechter, Poitevent, Carrere and Denegre L.L.P.
Opinion of Crowley, Haughey, Hanson, Toole & Dietrich P.L.L.P.
Opinion of Jones, Walker, Waechter, Poitevent, Carrere & Denegre L.L.P.
Consent of Deloitte & Touche LLP
Statement of Eligibility on Form T-1 186 pages total
As for the comment “Well, this filing is finally closer to the truth. It looks like Sarbanes-Oxley is working…” Closer to what? This is NOTHING new. PHI has quoted the same information in their past filings – just as REQUIRED by S&O. So I’m sorry GLS – no conspiracy, no “poor-mouthing”, no lies, no bankruptcy – just business at 80% and growing. I copied several examples below – but you can see it at sec.gov.
10-Q June 2006
We currently are negotiating a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots.
We have been in negotiations and mediation with the OPEIU (the Office and Professional Employees International Union, which is the union representing our domestic pilot work force), since expiration of the collective bargaining agreement May 31, 2004. On July 28, 2006, the National Mediation Board released the parties from the mediation process. As a result, a 30-day “cooling off” period commenced and expires August 28, 2006. Following the cooling off period, the Company is free to do whatever is reasonably necessary to continue operations, and the union is free to engage in job actions, including work stoppages or a general strike. Although the outcome of these negotiations cannot be predicted, it is management’s intent to continue working toward an acceptable renewed collective bargaining agreement. We cannot predict the outcome of these negotiations nor when they might be concluded and such negotiations may result in an agreement that will materially increase our operating costs. Failure to reach a satisfactory agreement could result in work stoppages, strikes or other labor disruptions that could materially adversely affect our revenues, operations or financial condition.
S-4 July 10, 2006
We currently are negotiating a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots.
We are currently in negotiations with the Office & Professional Employees International Union regarding a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots. We cannot predict the outcome of these negotiations nor when they might be concluded and such negotiations may result in an agreement that will materially increase our operating costs. Failure to reach a satisfactory agreement could result in work stoppages, strikes or other labor disruptions that could materially adversely affect our revenues, operations or financial condition.
10-Q March 31, 2006
We currently are negotiating a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots.
We are currently in negotiations with the Office & Professional Employees International Union regarding a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots. We cannot predict the outcome of these negotiations nor when they might be concluded and such negotiations may result in an agreement that will materially increase our operating costs. Failure to reach a satisfactory agreement could result in work stoppages, strikes or other labor disruptions that could materially adversely affect our revenues, operations or financial condition.
424B3 March 30, 2006
We currently are negotiating a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots.
We are currently in negotiations with the Office & Professional Employees International Union regarding a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots. We cannot predict the outcome of these negotiations nor when they might be concluded and such negotiations may result in an agreement that will materially increase our operating costs. Failure to reach a satisfactory agreement could result in work stoppages, strikes or other labor disruptions that could materially adversely affect our revenues, operations or financial condition.
10-K December 31, 2005
We currently are negotiating a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots.
We are currently in negotiations with the Office of Professional Employees International Union (‘‘OPEIU’’) regarding a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots. We cannot predict the outcome of these negotiations nor when they might be concluded and such negotiations may result in an agreement that will materially increase our operating costs. Failure to reach a satisfactory agreement could result in work stoppages, strikes or other labor disruptions that could materially adversely affect our revenues, operations or financial condition.
Revo,
I’m not sure but I think the CareFlight members are somehow included in the 239 number.
W1
Mr. Moderator :Sorry for the formatting error - my bad
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Page 2…
For starters:
Per GLS the current company S-4 out is “500 pages…” - actually it is about 186 pages as shown below. So I am starting think this is how we are getting 300 strikers out of 180 – maybe a trip to LenCrafters is in order or its something to do with the new fuzzy math around here
10-Q June 2006
TABLE OF CONTENTS
As for the comment “Well, this filing is finally closer to the truth. It looks like Sarbanes-Oxley is working…” Closer to what? This is NOTHING new. PHI has quoted the same information in their past filings – just as REQUIRED by S&O. So I’m sorry GLS – no conspiracy, no “poor-mouthing”, no lies, no bankruptcy – just business at 80% and growing. I copied several examples below – but you can see it at sec.gov.
10-Q June 2006
We currently are negotiating a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots.
We have been in negotiations and mediation with the OPEIU (the Office and Professional Employees International Union, which is the union representing our domestic pilot work force), since expiration of the collective bargaining agreement May 31, 2004. On July 28, 2006, the National Mediation Board released the parties from the mediation process. As a result, a 30-day “cooling off” period commenced and expires August 28, 2006. Following the cooling off period, the Company is free to do whatever is reasonably necessary to continue operations, and the union is free to engage in job actions, including work stoppages or a general strike. Although the outcome of these negotiations cannot be predicted, it is management’s intent to continue working toward an acceptable renewed collective bargaining agreement. We cannot predict the outcome of these negotiations nor when they might be concluded and such negotiations may result in an agreement that will materially increase our operating costs. Failure to reach a satisfactory agreement could result in work stoppages, strikes or other labor disruptions that could materially adversely affect our revenues, operations or financial condition.
S-4 July 10, 2006
We currently are negotiating a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots.
We are currently in negotiations with the Office & Professional Employees International Union regarding a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots. We cannot predict the outcome of these negotiations nor when they might be concluded and such negotiations may result in an agreement that will materially increase our operating costs. Failure to reach a satisfactory agreement could result in work stoppages, strikes or other labor disruptions that could materially adversely affect our revenues, operations or financial condition.
10-Q March 31, 2006
We currently are negotiating a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots.
We are currently in negotiations with the Office & Professional Employees International Union regarding a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots. We cannot predict the outcome of these negotiations nor when they might be concluded and such negotiations may result in an agreement that will materially increase our operating costs. Failure to reach a satisfactory agreement could result in work stoppages, strikes or other labor disruptions that could materially adversely affect our revenues, operations or financial condition.
424B3 March 30, 2006
We currently are negotiating a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots.
We are currently in negotiations with the Office & Professional Employees International Union regarding a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots. We cannot predict the outcome of these negotiations nor when they might be concluded and such negotiations may result in an agreement that will materially increase our operating costs. Failure to reach a satisfactory agreement could result in work stoppages, strikes or other labor disruptions that could materially adversely affect our revenues, operations or financial condition.
10-K December 31, 2005
We currently are negotiating a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots.
We are currently in negotiations with the Office of Professional Employees International Union (‘‘OPEIU’’) regarding a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots. We cannot predict the outcome of these negotiations nor when they might be concluded and such negotiations may result in an agreement that will materially increase our operating costs. Failure to reach a satisfactory agreement could result in work stoppages, strikes or other labor disruptions that could materially adversely affect our revenues, operations or financial condition.
Revo,
I’m not sure but I think the CareFlight members are somehow included in the 239 number.
W1
Mr. Moderator :Sorry for the formatting error - my bad
For starters:
Per GLS the current company S-4 out is “500 pages…” - actually it is about 186 pages as shown below. So I am starting think this is how we are getting 300 strikers out of 180 – maybe a trip to LenCrafters is in order or its something to do with the new fuzzy math around here
10-Q June 2006
TABLE OF CONTENTS
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ii
iii
iii
iv
1
16
27
40
41
43
60
81
125
127
131
131
131
F-1
Opinion of Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld LLP
Opinion of Jones, Walker, Waechter, Poitevent, Carrere and Denegre L.L.P.
Opinion of Crowley, Haughey, Hanson, Toole & Dietrich P.L.L.P.
Opinion of Jones, Walker, Waechter, Poitevent, Carrere & Denegre L.L.P.
Consent of Deloitte & Touche LLP
Statement of Eligibility on Form T-1 186 pages total
Opinion of Jones, Walker, Waechter, Poitevent, Carrere and Denegre L.L.P.
Opinion of Crowley, Haughey, Hanson, Toole & Dietrich P.L.L.P.
Opinion of Jones, Walker, Waechter, Poitevent, Carrere & Denegre L.L.P.
Consent of Deloitte & Touche LLP
Statement of Eligibility on Form T-1 186 pages total
As for the comment “Well, this filing is finally closer to the truth. It looks like Sarbanes-Oxley is working…” Closer to what? This is NOTHING new. PHI has quoted the same information in their past filings – just as REQUIRED by S&O. So I’m sorry GLS – no conspiracy, no “poor-mouthing”, no lies, no bankruptcy – just business at 80% and growing. I copied several examples below – but you can see it at sec.gov.
10-Q June 2006
We currently are negotiating a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots.
We have been in negotiations and mediation with the OPEIU (the Office and Professional Employees International Union, which is the union representing our domestic pilot work force), since expiration of the collective bargaining agreement May 31, 2004. On July 28, 2006, the National Mediation Board released the parties from the mediation process. As a result, a 30-day “cooling off” period commenced and expires August 28, 2006. Following the cooling off period, the Company is free to do whatever is reasonably necessary to continue operations, and the union is free to engage in job actions, including work stoppages or a general strike. Although the outcome of these negotiations cannot be predicted, it is management’s intent to continue working toward an acceptable renewed collective bargaining agreement. We cannot predict the outcome of these negotiations nor when they might be concluded and such negotiations may result in an agreement that will materially increase our operating costs. Failure to reach a satisfactory agreement could result in work stoppages, strikes or other labor disruptions that could materially adversely affect our revenues, operations or financial condition.
S-4 July 10, 2006
We currently are negotiating a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots.
We are currently in negotiations with the Office & Professional Employees International Union regarding a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots. We cannot predict the outcome of these negotiations nor when they might be concluded and such negotiations may result in an agreement that will materially increase our operating costs. Failure to reach a satisfactory agreement could result in work stoppages, strikes or other labor disruptions that could materially adversely affect our revenues, operations or financial condition.
10-Q March 31, 2006
We currently are negotiating a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots.
We are currently in negotiations with the Office & Professional Employees International Union regarding a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots. We cannot predict the outcome of these negotiations nor when they might be concluded and such negotiations may result in an agreement that will materially increase our operating costs. Failure to reach a satisfactory agreement could result in work stoppages, strikes or other labor disruptions that could materially adversely affect our revenues, operations or financial condition.
424B3 March 30, 2006
We currently are negotiating a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots.
We are currently in negotiations with the Office & Professional Employees International Union regarding a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots. We cannot predict the outcome of these negotiations nor when they might be concluded and such negotiations may result in an agreement that will materially increase our operating costs. Failure to reach a satisfactory agreement could result in work stoppages, strikes or other labor disruptions that could materially adversely affect our revenues, operations or financial condition.
10-K December 31, 2005
We currently are negotiating a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots.
We are currently in negotiations with the Office of Professional Employees International Union (‘‘OPEIU’’) regarding a new collective bargaining agreement covering our pilots. We cannot predict the outcome of these negotiations nor when they might be concluded and such negotiations may result in an agreement that will materially increase our operating costs. Failure to reach a satisfactory agreement could result in work stoppages, strikes or other labor disruptions that could materially adversely affect our revenues, operations or financial condition.
Revo,
I’m not sure but I think the CareFlight members are somehow included in the 239 number.
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I think there is enough fuzzy math and misinformation to go around without throwing too many stones in one direction or another. I find this board to be a refreshing change from the "other" board out there and would not want to see this thread slide into the same crappy name calling type thread.
The truth is always somewhere in the middle and one can see how PHI would be able to make 80% of their flights while missing a large chunk of their regular pilots...it is called lots and lots of workover! Your in the best shape you are going to be in during the first 48 hours of any survival situation and I think it is beginning to show that both sides are showing the wear and tear of this work action but the truth of the matter is that PHI has to live with the wear and tear until such a time as they rebuild their company while the strikers will be able to go out and get another job fairly easily.
The ones I feel sorry for are those that are going to have to live with PHI if they manage to break the union because the honeymoon will only last so long then the ugly marriage will begin as the company struts about in their presumed victory!
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I agree with your general view of the "post" PHI environment, but there are a couple of additional considerations:
- Pilots that leave PHI on strike and then chose to go to another carrier (say air log) will find that they will be required by union rules to take a serious cut in pay and lose all seniority. That may equate to a 30-45% cut in pay and back to flying 412's.
- Big AL will have his foot on the neck of the union. While the union will continue to exist, there will be little benefit to being a member of the union. Thus the $'s headed to OPEIU will decrease as will their support. They are already in the middle of a membership exodus and the PHI loss would be a major setback for union activity.
- Failure of the union in this situation and the rather enemic AMC contract does not bode well for EMS salaries in the future. If the lack of EMS support at PHI is any indicator, managment at AMC is already looking at what they can possibly achieve in the next round of talks.
- If the strike is broken, PHI will be a differnt company. Possibly a little smaller, it may lose some contracts, but in AL's mind, he will be able to shape the company as he wants without union input.
-If the strike is broken, the pilots that do not return will be in for a differnet life - especially the new pilots (less than 10 years) that will dump all their seniority and start over at the bottom of the wage scale (assuming they go to a union company).
Should be interesting to see if the union can break AL's will. Since they told the membership it would only be 3-4 days at most, week 5 should provide additional insight.
I agree with your general view of the "post" PHI environment, but there are a couple of additional considerations:
- Pilots that leave PHI on strike and then chose to go to another carrier (say air log) will find that they will be required by union rules to take a serious cut in pay and lose all seniority. That may equate to a 30-45% cut in pay and back to flying 412's.
- Big AL will have his foot on the neck of the union. While the union will continue to exist, there will be little benefit to being a member of the union. Thus the $'s headed to OPEIU will decrease as will their support. They are already in the middle of a membership exodus and the PHI loss would be a major setback for union activity.
- Failure of the union in this situation and the rather enemic AMC contract does not bode well for EMS salaries in the future. If the lack of EMS support at PHI is any indicator, managment at AMC is already looking at what they can possibly achieve in the next round of talks.
- If the strike is broken, PHI will be a differnt company. Possibly a little smaller, it may lose some contracts, but in AL's mind, he will be able to shape the company as he wants without union input.
-If the strike is broken, the pilots that do not return will be in for a differnet life - especially the new pilots (less than 10 years) that will dump all their seniority and start over at the bottom of the wage scale (assuming they go to a union company).
Should be interesting to see if the union can break AL's will. Since they told the membership it would only be 3-4 days at most, week 5 should provide additional insight.
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Hemssafety,
"the strikers will be able to go out and get another job fairly easily".
It's not that easy to get a job elsewhere (free lance work excluded) if you're still on strike at PHI. You would have to convince your new employer that you're going to stay awhile. Like with a resignation letter from PHI. Which brings up another point: Presumably you could remain a supporter of local 108 but you could not be a member anymore if you quit PHI. It is possible that the dwindling ranks of local 108 are due in part to this phenomenon.
"The ones I feel sorry for are those that are going to have to live with PHI if they manage to break the union because the honeymoon will only last so long then the ugly marriage will begin as the company struts about in their presumed victory!"
There is a common fear amongst union members that PHI will return to the dark old days of the Suggs's if the union doesn't score a victory. That wages and benefits will be slashed and people could be fired for looking at an area manager the wrong way. But let's be sensible. PHI will have to compete with other companies to attract and retain pilots from a limited pool of prospects. It stands to reason that they will continue to try and make it an appealing place to work. I mean c'mon, it's 2006. I know it's Louisiana but it's not exactly a plantation we're talking about here.
"the strikers will be able to go out and get another job fairly easily".
It's not that easy to get a job elsewhere (free lance work excluded) if you're still on strike at PHI. You would have to convince your new employer that you're going to stay awhile. Like with a resignation letter from PHI. Which brings up another point: Presumably you could remain a supporter of local 108 but you could not be a member anymore if you quit PHI. It is possible that the dwindling ranks of local 108 are due in part to this phenomenon.
"The ones I feel sorry for are those that are going to have to live with PHI if they manage to break the union because the honeymoon will only last so long then the ugly marriage will begin as the company struts about in their presumed victory!"
There is a common fear amongst union members that PHI will return to the dark old days of the Suggs's if the union doesn't score a victory. That wages and benefits will be slashed and people could be fired for looking at an area manager the wrong way. But let's be sensible. PHI will have to compete with other companies to attract and retain pilots from a limited pool of prospects. It stands to reason that they will continue to try and make it an appealing place to work. I mean c'mon, it's 2006. I know it's Louisiana but it's not exactly a plantation we're talking about here.
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There is a common fear amongst union members that PHI will return to the dark old days of the Suggs's if the union doesn't score a victory. That wages and benefits will be slashed and people could be fired for looking at an area manager the wrong way. But let's be sensible. PHI will have to compete with other companies to attract and retain pilots from a limited pool of prospects. It stands to reason that they will continue to try and make it an appealing place to work. I mean c'mon, it's 2006. I know it's Louisiana but it's not exactly a plantation we're talking about here.
If this were to become the case, I'd expect pay and benefits to stagnate, losing value with each passing year. The only hope for keeping salaries on an upward trend would then be the customers, on whose shoulders would fall the responsibility for maintenance of strict standards for pilot qualifications and experience.
But salaries are only a relatively small part of my concern. Unfettered by a union, there would be even less incentive for companies to heed the concerns of pilots regarding operational and safety issues they face on a daily basis.
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Stan, at AirLog the union is much more entrenched, more effective and more difficult to break because they are an agency shop (or a closed shop even, I'm not sure).
PHI's best and final offer included an agency shop provision, which to me was a much more important concession than any retro pay offer or mandatory workover solution.
Steve's rationale for not bringing that final offer to a vote just doesn't cut it with me. The company made the offer and then, when the union accepted, withdrew it? C'mon, it's not a kindergarten schoolyard, and even if it is, it is supervised by a Federal Mediator.
I'm guessing that the union accepted portions of the offer and rejected others, or wanted additional concessions, and that PHI then withdrew the entire offer as a matter of standard bargaining practice.
The maddening thing here is that a vote either way would have strengthened the union's hand. An up vote would have meant a contract and an agency shop. A down vote would have sent a strong signal to the company that the offer needed some sweetening.
I greatly admire your principled stand in all of this and I completely agree with you that PHI needs both a union and a CBA, for it's own sake and for the sake of the industry at large.
But there's principles and then there's the nuts and bolts of securing a workable contract. I am absolutely mystified and more than a little miffed that local 108 had an agency shop (and the attending muscle) within it's grasp and now they've gone and thrown it all away.
If this debacle ends up breaking the union at PHI, local 107 need look no further than local 108 for the culprit.
PHI's best and final offer included an agency shop provision, which to me was a much more important concession than any retro pay offer or mandatory workover solution.
Steve's rationale for not bringing that final offer to a vote just doesn't cut it with me. The company made the offer and then, when the union accepted, withdrew it? C'mon, it's not a kindergarten schoolyard, and even if it is, it is supervised by a Federal Mediator.
I'm guessing that the union accepted portions of the offer and rejected others, or wanted additional concessions, and that PHI then withdrew the entire offer as a matter of standard bargaining practice.
The maddening thing here is that a vote either way would have strengthened the union's hand. An up vote would have meant a contract and an agency shop. A down vote would have sent a strong signal to the company that the offer needed some sweetening.
I greatly admire your principled stand in all of this and I completely agree with you that PHI needs both a union and a CBA, for it's own sake and for the sake of the industry at large.
But there's principles and then there's the nuts and bolts of securing a workable contract. I am absolutely mystified and more than a little miffed that local 108 had an agency shop (and the attending muscle) within it's grasp and now they've gone and thrown it all away.
If this debacle ends up breaking the union at PHI, local 107 need look no further than local 108 for the culprit.
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The legal strike action is still ongoing at PHI. Any pilot performing for PHI will for the rest of his career be branded as a Strike Breaker or a SCAB. This is a fact.
For your own sake, please stay away from PHI untill further notice from the pilots union.
On this forum you will encounter attempts at union busting from silly people. Either they have a personal agenda, or they are paid by the management of PHI. Any and all negative comments about the strike action are as disloyal as going AWOL during a fire fight.
Keep in mind the following: The pilots voted in favor of strike action. The negotiations broke down following 2,5 years of negotiations. Mediations led to no results. Based on this strike action has been undertaken, in accordance with US legislation.
For your own sake, please stay away from PHI untill further notice from the pilots union.
On this forum you will encounter attempts at union busting from silly people. Either they have a personal agenda, or they are paid by the management of PHI. Any and all negative comments about the strike action are as disloyal as going AWOL during a fire fight.
Keep in mind the following: The pilots voted in favor of strike action. The negotiations broke down following 2,5 years of negotiations. Mediations led to no results. Based on this strike action has been undertaken, in accordance with US legislation.
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CHC&Proud said, "Any and all negative comments about the strike action are as disloyal as going AWOL during a fire fight."
Ya know, CHC, your posts are just a little bit starting to piss me off, and I SUPPORT the strike! Do you have this effect on everyone you try to convince?
This kind of thought control might work in your part of the woods, but we on this side kind of respect people for their ethics and opinions, and resent when someone tells us what we must think and say.
Thought I'd let you know that, partner.
Ya know, CHC, your posts are just a little bit starting to piss me off, and I SUPPORT the strike! Do you have this effect on everyone you try to convince?
This kind of thought control might work in your part of the woods, but we on this side kind of respect people for their ethics and opinions, and resent when someone tells us what we must think and say.
Thought I'd let you know that, partner.