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Old 12th Aug 2006, 19:19
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whats a 306? is that a Bell product or a Peugeot?
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Old 13th Aug 2006, 05:15
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Mr Walker's website:

We invented the concept of helicopters towing banners about 10 years ago;
I must find out why I have banner towing entries in my logbook from 1989 in Melbourne, and as for this photo that I took in about 1972, I guess that doesn't count

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Old 13th Aug 2006, 07:17
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Concede that one...

I'm not to sure if that '72 tow does count - it's not really a banner, is it? More a small rag.
Interesting anyhow... Should I have said that I invented the banner concept with the first safety system approved for over city flights...got the FAA in Los Angeles to first approve it in 1994.
A lot of prgress since then - and my inference about the Aussie designs referes to the big slow sheets of cloth I've noted they fly to often - there's a right way and wrong way to make them, and fly them.
We fly at 50knots, are capable of tight manoeuvres...and we still fly with trained flight-rigger assisting the pilot.
The safety systems has been refined and has been 100% reliable over all the years.
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Old 13th Aug 2006, 09:40
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My God there's a lot of wankers on this site - and the biggest of the lot are the f'ing kiwi's - as I said on another thread - the petty jealousies that make up the Australiasian helo scene absolutely leave me gobsmacked - well done John E you are streets ahead of the rest of the pups!!
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Old 13th Aug 2006, 09:58
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Is this a bad time to talk about Pavlova then?
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Old 13th Aug 2006, 11:04
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Didn't Pavlov do an experiment with dogs where he could get them to react ahead of themselves because of a learned behaviour...?
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Old 13th Aug 2006, 11:31
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I was talking about the dessert ???
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Old 13th Aug 2006, 17:29
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Originally Posted by John Eacott
We have been flying flags for >10years, although only over water. One operator has approval for an overland system in Australia.

Largest that I have flown was about 35,000 sq ft.

John, I'd really love to know what 35,000 sq ft is, can you give me a clue in standard british tabloid measurements of football pitches, nelson columns or double decker busses? Cheers!!

PS Pavlov played with dogs, Pavlova a scrummy pud named after a ballerina
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Old 13th Aug 2006, 23:33
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John, I'd really love to know what 35,000 sq ft is, can you give me a clue in standard british tabloid measurements of football pitches, nelson columns or double decker busses? Cheers!!
From memory, the flag was about 265ft x 132ft, on a 150 ft line from the BK117. Nelson stands 169ft 5 3/4in above Trafalgar Square: at least, the top of his hat does



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I'm not to sure if that '72 tow does count - it's not really a banner, is it? More a small rag
I'm sure that you were only joking, but there may be a few who have served under the White Ensign who may not find that too funny a remark. Only two posts, and you seem to have made a name for yourself already
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Old 14th Aug 2006, 00:22
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3150 sq meters

so about one third of a football field
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Old 16th Aug 2006, 09:45
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Threads merged.
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Old 16th Sep 2006, 13:24
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Smile Banner Towing ?

Does anyone know of a U.K. company that engages in this activity ?
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Old 16th Sep 2006, 13:44
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Not quite banner towing like you would with an aeroplane but Cabair were doing it earlier this year towing a giant flag around, heard the callsign cabair Flag over London quite a bit.

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Old 16th Sep 2006, 15:01
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Polo (in Bristol) do it as well. 01275 877000 if memory serves

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Old 17th Sep 2006, 22:02
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01934 877000
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Old 18th Sep 2006, 01:00
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Of course it is - thanks!

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Old 18th Sep 2006, 08:08
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Thank You

Thanks for the info. I will check it out
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Old 18th Sep 2006, 09:10
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I've seen PDG out of Cumbernauld in Scotland towing banners with a Squirrel
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Old 21st Sep 2006, 10:46
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More questions !!

I found some references on a Kiwi site to banner towing operations in a Hughes/ schweizer 300/269. Does anybody know any more or actualy do this ?
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Old 21st Sep 2006, 11:02
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Sorry guys, read the rest of the thread. The ONLY company allowed to do this task in the UK are Cabair at Elstree. The others sub-contract to Cabair when required and there is always a Cabair pilot on board. The job is always done under the Cabair AOC. Last year I flew a heck of a lot of it. My back is only just starting to lose the twin squirrel seat shape
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