Training, hours building and first job prospects in America
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I had a look at Helicopter adventures and had a long chat with a woman called Sandra on the phone, she seemed to have an English accent actually.
They said that they were too busy to even concider doing more than 1 hr a day's flying so it didn't seem like the place for me.
Thanks any more info appreciated...
They said that they were too busy to even concider doing more than 1 hr a day's flying so it didn't seem like the place for me.
Thanks any more info appreciated...
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Originally Posted by nouseforaname
I had a look at Helicopter adventures and had a long chat with a woman called Sandra on the phone, she seemed to have an English accent actually.
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JAA PPL(H) in the US
Hi guys/gals..
I am new at this (both this forum and the helicopter arena). I am looking for the best way to train and also the most economical way of getting through this jungle of ratings and qualifications.
To begin with:
Is it legal, if flying in the US for hour building purposes only to hold the JAA PPL licence, or does one need to convert it into a FAA.
Also, if one wants to gain a FAA CPL/IR/CFI is the FAA PPL a requirement or is the JAA PPL allowed.
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TH
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I am new at this (both this forum and the helicopter arena). I am looking for the best way to train and also the most economical way of getting through this jungle of ratings and qualifications.
To begin with:
Is it legal, if flying in the US for hour building purposes only to hold the JAA PPL licence, or does one need to convert it into a FAA.
Also, if one wants to gain a FAA CPL/IR/CFI is the FAA PPL a requirement or is the JAA PPL allowed.
Regards
TH
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I'll take a stab at this:
You'll need an FAA PPL to build time in the US, if for no other reason than the fact that nobody will rent you a helicopter if you only have a JAA PPL.
You'll need an FAA PPL before you can get an FAA CPL, instrument rating or CFI certificate. However it's easy to convert your JAA PPL to an FAA PPL -it's a simple administrative procedure.
You'll need an FAA PPL to build time in the US, if for no other reason than the fact that nobody will rent you a helicopter if you only have a JAA PPL.
You'll need an FAA PPL before you can get an FAA CPL, instrument rating or CFI certificate. However it's easy to convert your JAA PPL to an FAA PPL -it's a simple administrative procedure.
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visit the FAA website and follow the links for converting
foreign licence.
nowadays you also need to be finger printed, and make an
application through the alien flight training programme.Best to
contact outfit you intend hour building with, they,ll give you
all the contact links etc.... they also have to officially agree
to you flying with them.Once you,ve done all that you need
the CAA here to confirm that you do have a valid licence.
And when you get to the states you go to the nearest FSDO
office(by appointment) to collect a temporary airmans cert.
all this is hassle rather than cost, just form filling, e-mailing
copies of passport etc...etc....
and all thanks to 9/11.
mk10
foreign licence.
nowadays you also need to be finger printed, and make an
application through the alien flight training programme.Best to
contact outfit you intend hour building with, they,ll give you
all the contact links etc.... they also have to officially agree
to you flying with them.Once you,ve done all that you need
the CAA here to confirm that you do have a valid licence.
And when you get to the states you go to the nearest FSDO
office(by appointment) to collect a temporary airmans cert.
all this is hassle rather than cost, just form filling, e-mailing
copies of passport etc...etc....
and all thanks to 9/11.
mk10
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Can I just add, this is the way I did it...
In order to get unrestricted FAA CPL, you need to do 10 hours night flying, now, if your JAA PPL does not have night flying, then you need to do this before you convert your JAA to FAA (you can do this in the states), else, you will find that your CPL (if you can get it) will have a night restriction.
Speak to the school you will be flying at about it.
In order to get unrestricted FAA CPL, you need to do 10 hours night flying, now, if your JAA PPL does not have night flying, then you need to do this before you convert your JAA to FAA (you can do this in the states), else, you will find that your CPL (if you can get it) will have a night restriction.
Speak to the school you will be flying at about it.
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You need to get a FAA PPL on the back of JAA one, as mentioned above visit www.faa.gov
However for hour building you don't need TSA approval (the fingerprinting etc) you only need that if you are training for a license or rating. What you also need in that case is a M-1 or J-1 visa.
However for hour building you don't need TSA approval (the fingerprinting etc) you only need that if you are training for a license or rating. What you also need in that case is a M-1 or J-1 visa.
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Question: is it just for private or do you plan to fly commercial?
To get your JAA CPL(H) respectively (frozen) ATPL, go and find a school where they bring you from scratch to your ATPL for roundabout $50,000... as far as I know the FAA PPL(H) is already included (as mentioned above: they only let you rent a helicopter if you have one).
When you're done (~12 month) you can either go ahead, do your FAA CPL(H) and CFI (+/- 4 month) and try to make the most of the remainder of your Visa-time (J-1 total: 24 month).
The way I did it:
Look for a school where they are able to give you a (J-1) Visa and make your FAA PPL, CPL, IR, CFI, CFII - you should be done a lot quicker
(more than ever if you go on M-1 (up to 12 month) for your PPL (and IR?!) first and then go back and get your J-1 visa for the rest of the course - I should have done it
)
and that means a lot more oportunities to fly in the US and get a lot more flight time.
When you're a CFI you can build hours in the US and convert to the JAA PPL(H)/CPL(H) later; or do the 14 exams and go straight for the ATPL (should take about 6 month to study for all the exams - distant learning or ground school, you "just" need the "academical grade", because by than you already know how to fly)
Anyway you do it, if you wanna get a JAA IFR licence - do the FAA instrument first (after the JAA OR the FAA program), they usually give you credit for the (FAA-)flight time, so you need about 10 hours less flight time in a expensive turbine helicopter (you can do the math!
).
I'm pretty happy the way I did it... anyway, a couple of my friends never wanted to do something else than to fly the north sea; for them the FAA portion is kinda useless.
Good luck with your training and have fun!
Cheers, Phil
PS.: my first post, I know but I just haven't anything to add untill now - very good forum anyway!
To get your JAA CPL(H) respectively (frozen) ATPL, go and find a school where they bring you from scratch to your ATPL for roundabout $50,000... as far as I know the FAA PPL(H) is already included (as mentioned above: they only let you rent a helicopter if you have one).
When you're done (~12 month) you can either go ahead, do your FAA CPL(H) and CFI (+/- 4 month) and try to make the most of the remainder of your Visa-time (J-1 total: 24 month).
The way I did it:
Look for a school where they are able to give you a (J-1) Visa and make your FAA PPL, CPL, IR, CFI, CFII - you should be done a lot quicker
(more than ever if you go on M-1 (up to 12 month) for your PPL (and IR?!) first and then go back and get your J-1 visa for the rest of the course - I should have done it
) and that means a lot more oportunities to fly in the US and get a lot more flight time.
When you're a CFI you can build hours in the US and convert to the JAA PPL(H)/CPL(H) later; or do the 14 exams and go straight for the ATPL (should take about 6 month to study for all the exams - distant learning or ground school, you "just" need the "academical grade", because by than you already know how to fly)
Anyway you do it, if you wanna get a JAA IFR licence - do the FAA instrument first (after the JAA OR the FAA program), they usually give you credit for the (FAA-)flight time, so you need about 10 hours less flight time in a expensive turbine helicopter (you can do the math!
).I'm pretty happy the way I did it... anyway, a couple of my friends never wanted to do something else than to fly the north sea; for them the FAA portion is kinda useless.
Good luck with your training and have fun!
Cheers, Phil
PS.: my first post, I know but I just haven't anything to add untill now - very good forum anyway!
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Big Thanks
I just want to thank everybody who took time to reply to my posting.
Many thanks to phil, this is exactly what i was wondering about, how i could maximise the use of the the J-1 visa.
- TH
Iceland
Many thanks to phil, this is exactly what i was wondering about, how i could maximise the use of the the J-1 visa.
- TH
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FAA CFI to JAA FI
Hi Guys, Im currently working on west coast USA as CFII {H}and thinking of moving home to london and doing JAA FI[H}.Is there a fast track process or does one have to do the full 30hr JAA course?? I already have JAA CPL complete and have 2200hrs on rotors.I have been offered a full time job in UK as there is a "shortage of instructors".Is this the case ??
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The fasttrack is 15 hours of dual and a shorter theoretical knowledge course (30 hours I believe) you can find it in the LASORS on the CAA website. There is demand for instructor in the UK and Ireland, but with your hours it shouldn't be to hard to find another job as well.
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Tks Hillerbee,will have a look in LASORS.Any idea of which school to use or even more important HOW MUCH ?? New job is based on achieving the rating first at my expense.....How much would one expect to be paid in UK per hr flying/g-school as USA rates are poor these days.
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If your in the US, you can do your JAA FI with HAI in florida. There able to do the training (30 ground and 15 flight) and carry out the LST in house.
Should be cheaper than the UK
If you need contact details PM me.
LB
Should be cheaper than the UK
If you need contact details PM me.
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yeah, but it will be on a Schweizer, not an r22. that maybe something to think about if you are looking for an r22 job
now that the need for full-downs has been removed from the CFI checkride, will HAI now let students do the CFI/FI course on an R22?
now that the need for full-downs has been removed from the CFI checkride, will HAI now let students do the CFI/FI course on an R22?