Training, hours building and first job prospects in America
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I don't know if it'll help ya, but Helicopter Adventures Inc. has a school in Concord CA., which isn't too far from KSTS (Santa Rosa), and they are fairly savy about JAA ratings etc. as they offer JAA training. I think most of the JAA stuff is handled out of their Florida base, and I also don't know if they have a 206 in CCR, but it's worth a look.
Good luck...
Good luck...
ahh yes, forgot about the JAA approved schools in the US, Guess one could get a type rating in any of them.
But didn´t HAI move all operations to Florida? Do they still have a base in California.
But didn´t HAI move all operations to Florida? Do they still have a base in California.
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Thanks for the replies.
I work with a guy who trained with HAI before they moved out to FL. He speaks highly of them.
The website mentions the CA school but they seem to aim it at bay area residents. Maybe they only do the JAA stuff in FL?? I'll get in touch and ask.
I work with a guy who trained with HAI before they moved out to FL. He speaks highly of them.The website mentions the CA school but they seem to aim it at bay area residents. Maybe they only do the JAA stuff in FL?? I'll get in touch and ask.
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HAI is the best helicopter academy in the US. They have a fleet of about 50 helicopters, most Schweizers, a number of R-22's and Jetrangers.
They have their own maintenance department and maintenance is top notch.
The downside might be they are very busy.
But the quality is very, very good.
They have their own maintenance department and maintenance is top notch.
The downside might be they are very busy.
But the quality is very, very good.
Hillerbee's opinion is unreservedly positive with regard to HAI. As a former student, I found some aspects outstanding and others less so. Who can know how representative such experiences and impressions are? And indeed whether HAI is the best academie in the US? Happy to give a purely personal impression via pm to prospective students.
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Hi Torquetalk. May i ask you to PM me your info and opinion about HAI. Since HAI is one of two schools i am considering for the future, any info would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks. Masak
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Learning to fly in the US of A - FAA PPL(H)
As the title suggests, I am thinking of going to the USA to get an FAA PPL(H).
I am very interested in any advice or pointers of the following:-
1. Schools, which are the good ones?
2. Where? Florida? California? I am intending to go in Oct 2006 if that makes any difference.
3. Visas, what do I need?
4. TSA, what's that all about?
5. Is there any difference in the standard of pilot from FAA to JAA? (don't shoot me please!)
6. What can I fly in the UK on an FAA PPL(H)?
7. How do I convert to a JAA licence from an FAA one?
8. What's the life like outside of learning to fly?
9.
Sorry for all the questions, but this seems the best resource on the net!
Thanks in advance...
TS
I am very interested in any advice or pointers of the following:-
1. Schools, which are the good ones?
2. Where? Florida? California? I am intending to go in Oct 2006 if that makes any difference.
3. Visas, what do I need?
4. TSA, what's that all about?
5. Is there any difference in the standard of pilot from FAA to JAA? (don't shoot me please!)
6. What can I fly in the UK on an FAA PPL(H)?
7. How do I convert to a JAA licence from an FAA one?
8. What's the life like outside of learning to fly?
9.
Sorry for all the questions, but this seems the best resource on the net!
Thanks in advance...
TS
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Hello and welcome to "The Stig!"
Hello there "The Stig"
I hope that I can give You a few pointers to help you on your way because i was in exactly the same boat as you a few years ago. I originally started on the Fixed wing route and went to the USA to do my PPL (A) and then went back 2 years later to do my PPL, CPL and my CFI (H).
I really wished that I could have trained here in the UK but The lovely CAA and the wonderfull Gorden Brown have seen to it that the UK is the most expensive and most restricted place on the planet to fly so your quest to go to the states is a vaid one.
I will try to answer your questions as much as possible if you u give me a PM and I will forward my phone number. In the mean time visit http://www.ukft.com/ and have a look on that, most of your question will be answered anyway. They have a free phone number as well so give them a call and discuss what you want to know.
You will need at least 5 weeks to do the course and only then if you are a good student and learn at a good pace. 6 weeks would be better and 55 hours is the best course to buy. 45 Hours is cutting it close and the extra hours are always beneficial.
1 Uk flight training in California and Lancaster ( http://www.ukft.com/ ) Rainbow air Long beach California. HAI in Florida come with excellent feedback.
2 Florida....good but weather can be a factor. Flights cheaper and more available. California...weather excellant most of the time. Lots of places to go and fly to. Great beaches and Nice airfields.
3 You will meed and M1 Training visa. It will take about 6 weeks to get the interveiw and about 2 weeks for the visa to arrive. Not sure how much but was about £100 2 years ago. Look on the link to see more.
4 TSA is USA side and the school must be registered and you will neeed to go with an approved school. You will need to be finger printed when you get there and give details and photos. Its a Yank Kneejerk and a ballache but its got to be done.
5 If you can fly safely and know what to do, when, where and how then it doesnt matter where u fly from. I have flown with pilots on both licences and there good and bad ones on each one. The FAA licence is not as restrictive in some respects but it down to your own standards at the end of the day. You could fly with the best instructor at the best school with the tougghest examiner then go and fly like a w...er when u fly on your PPL.
The UK ATPL is supposed to be the best licence in the world with the hardest exams, I have done them and 90 percent of what is in them is completely useless in the real world. Does knowning a lot of useless figures and obscure information make you a better pilot? No i think not. Decent instruction and quality flying ,judgement ,talking to the operators ,mechanics, other pilots , and examiners makes you a better pilot. Unfortunately that comes from time and flying hours which costs and is therefore restrictive to gaining experience.
6 It depends on the place u rent from. I have UK and US licenses on both Fixed and Helicopter but I let my UK fixed lapse and I fly on my FAA (H) because my UK licence requires me to type rate on a R44 with the associated costs involved with it. You will have to see if your operater will accept the FAA licence but they have no right to refuse as it is reciprical under ICAO. I have not had any problems so far.
7 Convert by doing 100 hours flying,then take the UK Air Law and Human performance test do a skill test and you can apply for the UK licence. Its easy if you do the flying and read the books. You should read the book on Law if you intend to fly here anyway.
8 Flying is amazing and I cant get enough of it but I am poor and working 3 jobs to keep it up but grin every time I lift the collective!
Be aware that there is an awefull lot of snobbery and bitching on here. Dont take it to heart. The people who have had to pay for there training with savings and selling their houses, cars mothers and souls etc can afford to fly the Robbies (R22) and hope to move up one day,The EX mil and "others" who were very lucky with their training and fly turbines and lovely machines like that look down their noses and bitch about how unsafe some helicopters are etc. Its a risk we all have to accept if we want to fly in this country and one day "we" will replace them at the sticks of the "Safe" helicopters.
Take your time to look through as many posts as possible on here. It will take you a long time as there is much info. It will also lift you up to want to do more when u look at some of the pictures of real helicopters doing the real jobs in the reral places.
Hope this helps and feel free to message me if you want my number to discuss further.
Going to get behind the sand bags and await the fallout from some of my comments now!
Flash!
I hope that I can give You a few pointers to help you on your way because i was in exactly the same boat as you a few years ago. I originally started on the Fixed wing route and went to the USA to do my PPL (A) and then went back 2 years later to do my PPL, CPL and my CFI (H).
I really wished that I could have trained here in the UK but The lovely CAA and the wonderfull Gorden Brown have seen to it that the UK is the most expensive and most restricted place on the planet to fly so your quest to go to the states is a vaid one.
I will try to answer your questions as much as possible if you u give me a PM and I will forward my phone number. In the mean time visit http://www.ukft.com/ and have a look on that, most of your question will be answered anyway. They have a free phone number as well so give them a call and discuss what you want to know.
You will need at least 5 weeks to do the course and only then if you are a good student and learn at a good pace. 6 weeks would be better and 55 hours is the best course to buy. 45 Hours is cutting it close and the extra hours are always beneficial.
1 Uk flight training in California and Lancaster ( http://www.ukft.com/ ) Rainbow air Long beach California. HAI in Florida come with excellent feedback.
2 Florida....good but weather can be a factor. Flights cheaper and more available. California...weather excellant most of the time. Lots of places to go and fly to. Great beaches and Nice airfields.
3 You will meed and M1 Training visa. It will take about 6 weeks to get the interveiw and about 2 weeks for the visa to arrive. Not sure how much but was about £100 2 years ago. Look on the link to see more.
4 TSA is USA side and the school must be registered and you will neeed to go with an approved school. You will need to be finger printed when you get there and give details and photos. Its a Yank Kneejerk and a ballache but its got to be done.
5 If you can fly safely and know what to do, when, where and how then it doesnt matter where u fly from. I have flown with pilots on both licences and there good and bad ones on each one. The FAA licence is not as restrictive in some respects but it down to your own standards at the end of the day. You could fly with the best instructor at the best school with the tougghest examiner then go and fly like a w...er when u fly on your PPL.
The UK ATPL is supposed to be the best licence in the world with the hardest exams, I have done them and 90 percent of what is in them is completely useless in the real world. Does knowning a lot of useless figures and obscure information make you a better pilot? No i think not. Decent instruction and quality flying ,judgement ,talking to the operators ,mechanics, other pilots , and examiners makes you a better pilot. Unfortunately that comes from time and flying hours which costs and is therefore restrictive to gaining experience.
6 It depends on the place u rent from. I have UK and US licenses on both Fixed and Helicopter but I let my UK fixed lapse and I fly on my FAA (H) because my UK licence requires me to type rate on a R44 with the associated costs involved with it. You will have to see if your operater will accept the FAA licence but they have no right to refuse as it is reciprical under ICAO. I have not had any problems so far.
7 Convert by doing 100 hours flying,then take the UK Air Law and Human performance test do a skill test and you can apply for the UK licence. Its easy if you do the flying and read the books. You should read the book on Law if you intend to fly here anyway.
8 Flying is amazing and I cant get enough of it but I am poor and working 3 jobs to keep it up but grin every time I lift the collective!
Be aware that there is an awefull lot of snobbery and bitching on here. Dont take it to heart. The people who have had to pay for there training with savings and selling their houses, cars mothers and souls etc can afford to fly the Robbies (R22) and hope to move up one day,The EX mil and "others" who were very lucky with their training and fly turbines and lovely machines like that look down their noses and bitch about how unsafe some helicopters are etc. Its a risk we all have to accept if we want to fly in this country and one day "we" will replace them at the sticks of the "Safe" helicopters.
Take your time to look through as many posts as possible on here. It will take you a long time as there is much info. It will also lift you up to want to do more when u look at some of the pictures of real helicopters doing the real jobs in the reral places.
Hope this helps and feel free to message me if you want my number to discuss further.
Going to get behind the sand bags and await the fallout from some of my comments now!
Flash!
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Flash,
IMHO, you’re right on the money there fella!! I've also flown at UKFT, Rainbow and HAI. Did the FAA system first PPL - CFII then did a PPL A and IR. Did the fixed wing licence just to get as much cross country time as possible and the IR as a cheap way of building real IMC hours (SPIFR).
I returned back home to JAR land and spent 4 months stuck on the terra firma jumping through the hoops.
I think most people will agree the JAA system is a little out of touch, especially when the syllabus is all fixed wing with only one helicopter exam. What is the point of calculating Great Circle Tracks over the North Atlantic, use of polar stereographic, lamberts and Mercator charts, calculating compressibility and mach speeds at FL300 etc etc....
However, there was some sort of saving grace! Most people (especially JAA trained) tend to think of the FAA system as a bit of a joke, get the book, learn the answers and a fresh CPL will be in the post!
I hold a JAA FI and FAA CFII so have flown and trained both syllabus and found there is no difference between the standard of flight training.
Anyway, I digress, having done the 141 program at HAI, the standard of knowledge you will need is way above the FAA requirements. During primary training and instruments, there are extremely difficult progress test to complete before you can move on to the next stage. At the time, when I was a student, I thought them to be pointless and a lot of useless knowledge, even when I became an instructor, students would ask me why they needed to know all this stuff, my answer, "because it's in the syllabus!"
On returning back to the UK I was dreading the all mighty JAA exams, but soon came to realise, a lot of it I already knew from the FAA 141 program. Mass and Balance = Weight and Balance, HPL = Air medical and CFI FOI's, met = met, ICOA law = ICAO law. Agreed the useless exams such as G-NAV and AGK were all new to me (AGK wasn't that bad as I used to be an electrical/mechanical engineer) but how did I get through these, by buying a book, learning the answers and waiting for the CPL to come in the post!
The point of my story is......(IMHO)
There is no difference in quality between an FAA or JAA pilot's flight skills (at the same level) FAA ground instruction concentrates on what you need to know, JAA concentrates on what you need to know and a lot of what you will never need to know or use but is put there to keep the idiots out.
Whether you choose to go JAA direct or FAA to JAA it all comes down to $$$$
I hope this thread continues and other pilots can give some advise to other newbies who are faced with difficult and expensive decisions to make. I'm sure it will be a great help to shared your experience.
LB
IMHO, you’re right on the money there fella!! I've also flown at UKFT, Rainbow and HAI. Did the FAA system first PPL - CFII then did a PPL A and IR. Did the fixed wing licence just to get as much cross country time as possible and the IR as a cheap way of building real IMC hours (SPIFR).
I returned back home to JAR land and spent 4 months stuck on the terra firma jumping through the hoops.
I think most people will agree the JAA system is a little out of touch, especially when the syllabus is all fixed wing with only one helicopter exam. What is the point of calculating Great Circle Tracks over the North Atlantic, use of polar stereographic, lamberts and Mercator charts, calculating compressibility and mach speeds at FL300 etc etc....
However, there was some sort of saving grace! Most people (especially JAA trained) tend to think of the FAA system as a bit of a joke, get the book, learn the answers and a fresh CPL will be in the post!
I hold a JAA FI and FAA CFII so have flown and trained both syllabus and found there is no difference between the standard of flight training.
Anyway, I digress, having done the 141 program at HAI, the standard of knowledge you will need is way above the FAA requirements. During primary training and instruments, there are extremely difficult progress test to complete before you can move on to the next stage. At the time, when I was a student, I thought them to be pointless and a lot of useless knowledge, even when I became an instructor, students would ask me why they needed to know all this stuff, my answer, "because it's in the syllabus!"
On returning back to the UK I was dreading the all mighty JAA exams, but soon came to realise, a lot of it I already knew from the FAA 141 program. Mass and Balance = Weight and Balance, HPL = Air medical and CFI FOI's, met = met, ICOA law = ICAO law. Agreed the useless exams such as G-NAV and AGK were all new to me (AGK wasn't that bad as I used to be an electrical/mechanical engineer) but how did I get through these, by buying a book, learning the answers and waiting for the CPL to come in the post!
The point of my story is......(IMHO)
There is no difference in quality between an FAA or JAA pilot's flight skills (at the same level) FAA ground instruction concentrates on what you need to know, JAA concentrates on what you need to know and a lot of what you will never need to know or use but is put there to keep the idiots out.
Whether you choose to go JAA direct or FAA to JAA it all comes down to $$$$
I hope this thread continues and other pilots can give some advise to other newbies who are faced with difficult and expensive decisions to make. I'm sure it will be a great help to shared your experience.
LB
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Perhaps a little off piste but.....
Hi,
I posted the following in the private flying forum and was advised that this forum was a better place to post. I know this a little of track from the Stig's post but it kind of relates to what he is asking:
Not sure if this is the right forum for my question, if not sorry and perhaps some kind soul can point me in the right direction. Also sorry if this has been asked before but I didn't find anything when I did a search.
I recently completed my PPL(H) here in the UK and have now amassed the huge total of 71 hours so I would like to do some hour building, but the UK is too expensive for my wallet ! I was thinking of going to the US but would like to do some kind of structured hour building, I dont just want to go off doing endless solo x-country flights but rather want to improve my GH and all round awareness and skill.
Before I get a slating I know solo X-country will help build skill/confidence etc. but I was thinking of a more 'directed' approach with input from an instructor and doing that sort of thing with an instructor in the UK is prohibitive - I did a 2.3 hr flight from WAP - IOW - WAP in an R44 last week with intructor, wife and friend and it set me back a 4 figure sum !
So can anyone suggest a good school that can offer something like I describe ?
Any advice would be appreciated from the huge collective knowledge base that exists on this website.
S.
I posted the following in the private flying forum and was advised that this forum was a better place to post. I know this a little of track from the Stig's post but it kind of relates to what he is asking:
Not sure if this is the right forum for my question, if not sorry and perhaps some kind soul can point me in the right direction. Also sorry if this has been asked before but I didn't find anything when I did a search.
I recently completed my PPL(H) here in the UK and have now amassed the huge total of 71 hours so I would like to do some hour building, but the UK is too expensive for my wallet ! I was thinking of going to the US but would like to do some kind of structured hour building, I dont just want to go off doing endless solo x-country flights but rather want to improve my GH and all round awareness and skill.
Before I get a slating I know solo X-country will help build skill/confidence etc. but I was thinking of a more 'directed' approach with input from an instructor and doing that sort of thing with an instructor in the UK is prohibitive - I did a 2.3 hr flight from WAP - IOW - WAP in an R44 last week with intructor, wife and friend and it set me back a 4 figure sum !
So can anyone suggest a good school that can offer something like I describe ?
Any advice would be appreciated from the huge collective knowledge base that exists on this website.
S.
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Originally Posted by Flashover999
Hello there "The Stig"
I hope that I can give You a few pointers to help you on your way because i was in exactly the same boat as you a few years ago. I originally started on the Fixed wing route and went to the USA to do my PPL (A) and then went back 2 years later to do my PPL, CPL and my CFI (H).
I really wished that I could have trained here in the UK but The lovely CAA and the wonderfull Gorden Brown have seen to it that the UK is the most expensive and most restricted place on the planet to fly so your quest to go to the states is a vaid one.
I will try to answer your questions as much as possible if you u give me a PM and I will forward my phone number. In the mean time visit http://www.ukft.com/ and have a look on that, most of your question will be answered anyway. They have a free phone number as well so give them a call and discuss what you want to know.
You will need at least 5 weeks to do the course and only then if you are a good student and learn at a good pace. 6 weeks would be better and 55 hours is the best course to buy. 45 Hours is cutting it close and the extra hours are always beneficial.
1 Uk flight training in California and Lancaster ( http://www.ukft.com/ ) Rainbow air Long beach California. HAI in Florida come with excellent feedback.
2 Florida....good but weather can be a factor. Flights cheaper and more available. California...weather excellant most of the time. Lots of places to go and fly to. Great beaches and Nice airfields.
3 You will meed and M1 Training visa. It will take about 6 weeks to get the interveiw and about 2 weeks for the visa to arrive. Not sure how much but was about £100 2 years ago. Look on the link to see more.
4 TSA is USA side and the school must be registered and you will neeed to go with an approved school. You will need to be finger printed when you get there and give details and photos. Its a Yank Kneejerk and a ballache but its got to be done.
5 If you can fly safely and know what to do, when, where and how then it doesnt matter where u fly from. I have flown with pilots on both licences and there good and bad ones on each one. The FAA licence is not as restrictive in some respects but it down to your own standards at the end of the day. You could fly with the best instructor at the best school with the tougghest examiner then go and fly like a w...er when u fly on your PPL.
The UK ATPL is supposed to be the best licence in the world with the hardest exams, I have done them and 90 percent of what is in them is completely useless in the real world. Does knowning a lot of useless figures and obscure information make you a better pilot? No i think not. Decent instruction and quality flying ,judgement ,talking to the operators ,mechanics, other pilots , and examiners makes you a better pilot. Unfortunately that comes from time and flying hours which costs and is therefore restrictive to gaining experience.
6 It depends on the place u rent from. I have UK and US licenses on both Fixed and Helicopter but I let my UK fixed lapse and I fly on my FAA (H) because my UK licence requires me to type rate on a R44 with the associated costs involved with it. You will have to see if your operater will accept the FAA licence but they have no right to refuse as it is reciprical under ICAO. I have not had any problems so far.
7 Convert by doing 100 hours flying,then take the UK Air Law and Human performance test do a skill test and you can apply for the UK licence. Its easy if you do the flying and read the books. You should read the book on Law if you intend to fly here anyway.
8 Flying is amazing and I cant get enough of it but I am poor and working 3 jobs to keep it up but grin every time I lift the collective!
Be aware that there is an awefull lot of snobbery and bitching on here. Dont take it to heart. The people who have had to pay for there training with savings and selling their houses, cars mothers and souls etc can afford to fly the Robbies (R22) and hope to move up one day,The EX mil and "others" who were very lucky with their training and fly turbines and lovely machines like that look down their noses and bitch about how unsafe some helicopters are etc. Its a risk we all have to accept if we want to fly in this country and one day "we" will replace them at the sticks of the "Safe" helicopters.
Take your time to look through as many posts as possible on here. It will take you a long time as there is much info. It will also lift you up to want to do more when u look at some of the pictures of real helicopters doing the real jobs in the reral places.
Hope this helps and feel free to message me if you want my number to discuss further.
Going to get behind the sand bags and await the fallout from some of my comments now!
Flash!
I hope that I can give You a few pointers to help you on your way because i was in exactly the same boat as you a few years ago. I originally started on the Fixed wing route and went to the USA to do my PPL (A) and then went back 2 years later to do my PPL, CPL and my CFI (H).
I really wished that I could have trained here in the UK but The lovely CAA and the wonderfull Gorden Brown have seen to it that the UK is the most expensive and most restricted place on the planet to fly so your quest to go to the states is a vaid one.
I will try to answer your questions as much as possible if you u give me a PM and I will forward my phone number. In the mean time visit http://www.ukft.com/ and have a look on that, most of your question will be answered anyway. They have a free phone number as well so give them a call and discuss what you want to know.
You will need at least 5 weeks to do the course and only then if you are a good student and learn at a good pace. 6 weeks would be better and 55 hours is the best course to buy. 45 Hours is cutting it close and the extra hours are always beneficial.
1 Uk flight training in California and Lancaster ( http://www.ukft.com/ ) Rainbow air Long beach California. HAI in Florida come with excellent feedback.
2 Florida....good but weather can be a factor. Flights cheaper and more available. California...weather excellant most of the time. Lots of places to go and fly to. Great beaches and Nice airfields.
3 You will meed and M1 Training visa. It will take about 6 weeks to get the interveiw and about 2 weeks for the visa to arrive. Not sure how much but was about £100 2 years ago. Look on the link to see more.
4 TSA is USA side and the school must be registered and you will neeed to go with an approved school. You will need to be finger printed when you get there and give details and photos. Its a Yank Kneejerk and a ballache but its got to be done.
5 If you can fly safely and know what to do, when, where and how then it doesnt matter where u fly from. I have flown with pilots on both licences and there good and bad ones on each one. The FAA licence is not as restrictive in some respects but it down to your own standards at the end of the day. You could fly with the best instructor at the best school with the tougghest examiner then go and fly like a w...er when u fly on your PPL.
The UK ATPL is supposed to be the best licence in the world with the hardest exams, I have done them and 90 percent of what is in them is completely useless in the real world. Does knowning a lot of useless figures and obscure information make you a better pilot? No i think not. Decent instruction and quality flying ,judgement ,talking to the operators ,mechanics, other pilots , and examiners makes you a better pilot. Unfortunately that comes from time and flying hours which costs and is therefore restrictive to gaining experience.
6 It depends on the place u rent from. I have UK and US licenses on both Fixed and Helicopter but I let my UK fixed lapse and I fly on my FAA (H) because my UK licence requires me to type rate on a R44 with the associated costs involved with it. You will have to see if your operater will accept the FAA licence but they have no right to refuse as it is reciprical under ICAO. I have not had any problems so far.
7 Convert by doing 100 hours flying,then take the UK Air Law and Human performance test do a skill test and you can apply for the UK licence. Its easy if you do the flying and read the books. You should read the book on Law if you intend to fly here anyway.
8 Flying is amazing and I cant get enough of it but I am poor and working 3 jobs to keep it up but grin every time I lift the collective!
Be aware that there is an awefull lot of snobbery and bitching on here. Dont take it to heart. The people who have had to pay for there training with savings and selling their houses, cars mothers and souls etc can afford to fly the Robbies (R22) and hope to move up one day,The EX mil and "others" who were very lucky with their training and fly turbines and lovely machines like that look down their noses and bitch about how unsafe some helicopters are etc. Its a risk we all have to accept if we want to fly in this country and one day "we" will replace them at the sticks of the "Safe" helicopters.
Take your time to look through as many posts as possible on here. It will take you a long time as there is much info. It will also lift you up to want to do more when u look at some of the pictures of real helicopters doing the real jobs in the reral places.
Hope this helps and feel free to message me if you want my number to discuss further.
Going to get behind the sand bags and await the fallout from some of my comments now!
Flash!
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Originally Posted by HillerBee
Question: do you only want a PPL or would you continue to go commercial maybe?
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Originally Posted by Smiffie
Hi,
I posted the following in the private flying forum and was advised that this forum was a better place to post. I know this a little of track from the Stig's post but it kind of relates to what he is asking:
Not sure if this is the right forum for my question, if not sorry and perhaps some kind soul can point me in the right direction. Also sorry if this has been asked before but I didn't find anything when I did a search.
I recently completed my PPL(H) here in the UK and have now amassed the huge total of 71 hours so I would like to do some hour building, but the UK is too expensive for my wallet ! I was thinking of going to the US but would like to do some kind of structured hour building, I dont just want to go off doing endless solo x-country flights but rather want to improve my GH and all round awareness and skill.
Before I get a slating I know solo X-country will help build skill/confidence etc. but I was thinking of a more 'directed' approach with input from an instructor and doing that sort of thing with an instructor in the UK is prohibitive - I did a 2.3 hr flight from WAP - IOW - WAP in an R44 last week with intructor, wife and friend and it set me back a 4 figure sum !
So can anyone suggest a good school that can offer something like I describe ?
Any advice would be appreciated from the huge collective knowledge base that exists on this website.
S.
I posted the following in the private flying forum and was advised that this forum was a better place to post. I know this a little of track from the Stig's post but it kind of relates to what he is asking:
Not sure if this is the right forum for my question, if not sorry and perhaps some kind soul can point me in the right direction. Also sorry if this has been asked before but I didn't find anything when I did a search.
I recently completed my PPL(H) here in the UK and have now amassed the huge total of 71 hours so I would like to do some hour building, but the UK is too expensive for my wallet ! I was thinking of going to the US but would like to do some kind of structured hour building, I dont just want to go off doing endless solo x-country flights but rather want to improve my GH and all round awareness and skill.
Before I get a slating I know solo X-country will help build skill/confidence etc. but I was thinking of a more 'directed' approach with input from an instructor and doing that sort of thing with an instructor in the UK is prohibitive - I did a 2.3 hr flight from WAP - IOW - WAP in an R44 last week with intructor, wife and friend and it set me back a 4 figure sum !
So can anyone suggest a good school that can offer something like I describe ?
Any advice would be appreciated from the huge collective knowledge base that exists on this website.
S.
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Originally Posted by thecontroller
is your eyesight so bad you didnt see this at the top of the threads?
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=122944
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=122944
Originally Posted by the_stig
You need to get out more....angry man!
I don't mean this to sound harsh but don't bother quoting the whole of somebody's post, especially with just a one line response. (It wastes a lot of space/bandwidth on the server, especially with multiple responses like you've just done).
Better to use the 'Post Reply' button (or just quote excerpts from somebody's post).
Hope this helps,
B73
