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Great photos; tho' I suppose it's like a battlefield seen from the air. The true horror is at ground level.
I wish Phoenix Rising and the other MHS pilots well in their work; I am sure that you can make a difference.
We all know and understand the vital role of helicopters in disaster relief; like most of us, I agree the need for some form of supra-national fast reaction organisation equipped with a fleet of heavy lifters capable of carrying and supporting medium size helicopters c/w emergency equipment and medics to any corner of the world at short notice and without the need for lengthy political clearances.
Of course, an amphibious taskforce is ideal for this work and the crews are brilliant at it. To all those military airmen, soldiers and sailors already involved, thanks for your efforts; likewise to all those civilian ngo's and individuals who responded so quickly. Saving lives is more noble than making war.
Politicians, where are you? Give the UN some teeth and pay up your contributions - you need it.
I wish Phoenix Rising and the other MHS pilots well in their work; I am sure that you can make a difference.
We all know and understand the vital role of helicopters in disaster relief; like most of us, I agree the need for some form of supra-national fast reaction organisation equipped with a fleet of heavy lifters capable of carrying and supporting medium size helicopters c/w emergency equipment and medics to any corner of the world at short notice and without the need for lengthy political clearances.
Of course, an amphibious taskforce is ideal for this work and the crews are brilliant at it. To all those military airmen, soldiers and sailors already involved, thanks for your efforts; likewise to all those civilian ngo's and individuals who responded so quickly. Saving lives is more noble than making war.
Politicians, where are you? Give the UN some teeth and pay up your contributions - you need it.
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UN Politicians - Dispicable AND Toothless
Political comments about aid givers deleted. RD, you are warned, the sight of the devastation, and the degree of suffering, are not grist for anyone's hate-mill.
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Young CFI willing to help anyway
Hello to all
I would like to get into contact with somebody who needs any a crew member/refueler/ground crew/grunt, to be put to use. I know nobody needs a robbie or schweizer pilot, but if you know of anything please PM me or email or even call.
James McGuire
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I would like to get into contact with somebody who needs any a crew member/refueler/ground crew/grunt, to be put to use. I know nobody needs a robbie or schweizer pilot, but if you know of anything please PM me or email or even call.
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PedalStop,
I think you overeacted to my comments about the UN's recent comments about the situation, but we'll leave it at that. I have nothing but admiration and respect for what's being done, and my comments were not intended to cheapen the spirit of coorperation found on this forum and elsewhere. Please don't make me out to be the bad guy here.
Respectfully,
RD
RD, You must read your post next time before you send into cyberspace. I assure you it was over the top, and made comparisons to 911 and religions that were simply not part of this thread, nor of Rotorheads.
PedalStop
I think you overeacted to my comments about the UN's recent comments about the situation, but we'll leave it at that. I have nothing but admiration and respect for what's being done, and my comments were not intended to cheapen the spirit of coorperation found on this forum and elsewhere. Please don't make me out to be the bad guy here.
Respectfully,
RD
RD, You must read your post next time before you send into cyberspace. I assure you it was over the top, and made comparisons to 911 and religions that were simply not part of this thread, nor of Rotorheads.
PedalStop
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Government to fund helicopter for Aceh relief
Monday, 3 January 2005, 9:39 am
Press Release: New Zealand Government
Government to fund helicopter for Aceh relief
Foreign Minister Phil Goff has welcomed the development of a New Zealand private-public sector partnership to deliver immediate assistance to areas devastated by the Asian tsunami.
Mr Goff said the government would provide funding for a New Zealand company operating helicopters in Kalimantan (Borneo) to deliver urgently-needed relief supplies in Aceh, Indonesia.
"The government's aid agency, NZAID, will provide $300,000 to cover the costs of the Bell 212 helicopter for up to 30 days," Mr Goff said.
"The helicopter is owned by Jakarta-based National Utility Helicopters (NUH), and is currently based in East Kalimantan. It will leave for Banda Aceh, the capital of Aceh province, tomorrow.
"Once in Aceh, the helicopter will be used to conduct various relief operations including reconnaissance, liaison and light transport. The Bell may stay longer in the region if required and if additional funding can be secured.
"NZAID is working closely with the New Zealand and Australian Defence Forces, which have both sent medical teams to Aceh. The Australians will have primary responsibility for tasking the helicopter, and their aid agency, Ausaid, will cover fuel costs.
“It is good to see New Zealand and Australians, in both the public and private sectors, working together to provide relief to those affected by the tsunami.
"We are very grateful to NUH and its representative in New Zealand, Peter Green, who has been of great assistance in arranging logistics and securing highly competitive terms for the lease of the helicopter.
"Officials at NZAID are talking to other helicopter companies in New Zealand about linking them up in a similar way with international donors and the United Nations.”
Mr Goff also confirmed that he and Prime Minister Helen Clark would attend the international summit on tsunami relief and reconstruction in Jakarta on January 6.
"This is an important meeting of regional leaders and New Zealand is honoured to be invited to join. Our attendance will ensure New Zealand's aid commitments fit appropriately within a coordinated international response," Mr Goff said.
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Monday, 3 January 2005, 9:39 am
Press Release: New Zealand Government
Government to fund helicopter for Aceh relief
Foreign Minister Phil Goff has welcomed the development of a New Zealand private-public sector partnership to deliver immediate assistance to areas devastated by the Asian tsunami.
Mr Goff said the government would provide funding for a New Zealand company operating helicopters in Kalimantan (Borneo) to deliver urgently-needed relief supplies in Aceh, Indonesia.
"The government's aid agency, NZAID, will provide $300,000 to cover the costs of the Bell 212 helicopter for up to 30 days," Mr Goff said.
"The helicopter is owned by Jakarta-based National Utility Helicopters (NUH), and is currently based in East Kalimantan. It will leave for Banda Aceh, the capital of Aceh province, tomorrow.
"Once in Aceh, the helicopter will be used to conduct various relief operations including reconnaissance, liaison and light transport. The Bell may stay longer in the region if required and if additional funding can be secured.
"NZAID is working closely with the New Zealand and Australian Defence Forces, which have both sent medical teams to Aceh. The Australians will have primary responsibility for tasking the helicopter, and their aid agency, Ausaid, will cover fuel costs.
“It is good to see New Zealand and Australians, in both the public and private sectors, working together to provide relief to those affected by the tsunami.
"We are very grateful to NUH and its representative in New Zealand, Peter Green, who has been of great assistance in arranging logistics and securing highly competitive terms for the lease of the helicopter.
"Officials at NZAID are talking to other helicopter companies in New Zealand about linking them up in a similar way with international donors and the United Nations.”
Mr Goff also confirmed that he and Prime Minister Helen Clark would attend the international summit on tsunami relief and reconstruction in Jakarta on January 6.
"This is an important meeting of regional leaders and New Zealand is honoured to be invited to join. Our attendance will ensure New Zealand's aid commitments fit appropriately within a coordinated international response," Mr Goff said.
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The series of photos at a resort, (11th to 13th pic from the bottom) clearly show the soil eroison, of around 5 feet in depth.
Look at the trees with completly exposed roots and the exposed building foundations.
Mickjoebill
Look at the trees with completly exposed roots and the exposed building foundations.
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Damn, i just travelled back from New Zealand Yesterday from holiday, maybe i should have checked PPRuNe, whilst i was away, completely clueless 
Phoenix Rising
Awesome photo's, and i fear just scartching the surface on how much devastation there is going on down there. The true picture will no doubt come soon on this thread. Keep up the good work.
Gabra1
Not type rated on the machines listed, but definately got experience in bush work. If you need crew or ramp guys, i would be willing (For Free) to help out, if it is needed. (Check email sent by Decimal too).
Steve76
I Should have stayed in Matamata bro, i would have been closer the action. Great catching up though.
Rotorheads that will be flying
May god be with you and safe flying in these treacherous times.
Regards
MD
Phoenix Rising
Awesome photo's, and i fear just scartching the surface on how much devastation there is going on down there. The true picture will no doubt come soon on this thread. Keep up the good work.
Gabra1
Not type rated on the machines listed, but definately got experience in bush work. If you need crew or ramp guys, i would be willing (For Free) to help out, if it is needed. (Check email sent by Decimal too).
Steve76
I Should have stayed in Matamata bro, i would have been closer the action. Great catching up though.
Rotorheads that will be flying
May god be with you and safe flying in these treacherous times.
Regards
MD
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Was pointed here thru a link from JB.
those pictures are jaw dropping. Makes me see even more how much needs to be done with regard to cleanup & rebuilding (not to mention relief work)
Just wanted to say to all you guys and girls out there helping,good on you, keep it up, you are making your families and friends and evryone on PPRuNe proud.
Only wish I had an aircraft and the ability to get over there!
best wishes for smooth skies and a safe return.
Regards,
Sky
those pictures are jaw dropping. Makes me see even more how much needs to be done with regard to cleanup & rebuilding (not to mention relief work)
Just wanted to say to all you guys and girls out there helping,good on you, keep it up, you are making your families and friends and evryone on PPRuNe proud.
Only wish I had an aircraft and the ability to get over there!
best wishes for smooth skies and a safe return.
Regards,
Sky
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Current AWSAR S61 Captain. 7000+ S61 hours, Prof checked on 61 until November 2005, Medical end May 2005. I have e-mailed Rahmat on both his addresses and also Phoenix Rising. In these mails (2nd Jan) I indicated that I could have been available from this weekend. Left work and home phone numbers. Haven't heard a dickie bird. Does anyone have any accurate information as to whether S61 drivers are still required?
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Icarus, Ned and Rahmat are 'in the field' or travelling between places. I don't know if MHS need any more people but I'm sure that when Rahmat gets near a computer, he will let you know.
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Update To All:
Well made it to Medan. Got in on the flight from Singapore this morning. Talk about a madhouse. Aircraft have been coming and going all day, both fixed wing and helos.
Those wanting responses from Rahmat will have to bear with him as he has been very very busy at the moment. They are fixing a leak on the S-61s engine and then at 0600 we are heading up to Aceh. No doubt will shoot some images up there and post them here as I am working with Rahmats boys as a crewman on the 61 and also the two 355s that are stretcher configured. They will be in Aceh on Sunday.
On the ramp tonight there was the following.
1 x S-61N
1 x Bell 412 military
3 x BO105 Indonesian Police
1 x Bell 206B Sabah Air
1 x Bell 212 Sabah Air
1 x Bell 206B SAR Helicopters
1 x Mil 8 Civil
1 x S-61 Malaysian Military
3 x Chinooks Indonesia Military
Plus heaps of C-130s, C-2 Greyhoud from USS Abraham Lincoln, CASAs, IL-76s, DC-10s, C-130J from RAAF, Beech King Airs x 5 incl RAAF.
Will do another update from Aceh tomorrow evening if I have comms, if not will post when I come out of the Assylum.
Cheers
Ned
Well made it to Medan. Got in on the flight from Singapore this morning. Talk about a madhouse. Aircraft have been coming and going all day, both fixed wing and helos.
Those wanting responses from Rahmat will have to bear with him as he has been very very busy at the moment. They are fixing a leak on the S-61s engine and then at 0600 we are heading up to Aceh. No doubt will shoot some images up there and post them here as I am working with Rahmats boys as a crewman on the 61 and also the two 355s that are stretcher configured. They will be in Aceh on Sunday.
On the ramp tonight there was the following.
1 x S-61N
1 x Bell 412 military
3 x BO105 Indonesian Police
1 x Bell 206B Sabah Air
1 x Bell 212 Sabah Air
1 x Bell 206B SAR Helicopters
1 x Mil 8 Civil
1 x S-61 Malaysian Military
3 x Chinooks Indonesia Military
Plus heaps of C-130s, C-2 Greyhoud from USS Abraham Lincoln, CASAs, IL-76s, DC-10s, C-130J from RAAF, Beech King Airs x 5 incl RAAF.
Will do another update from Aceh tomorrow evening if I have comms, if not will post when I come out of the Assylum.
Cheers
Ned
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Guys...
I've been running around other forums and wondered where the PPRuNe action regarding this tragedy is... seem to have found it...
I'm amazed at the perseverance you guys have!
Let me on the behalf of a local (albeit me being in Jakarta), and a couple of friends who have lost relatives in Aceh, and lost friends in other places do the least I can do... that is to say Thank You!
Any ops into Lhokseumawe/WITM?
For west coast ops, I hear they're putting up a small staging post in Blang Pidie south east of Meulaboh, the worst hit area. I hear C212s bringing aid in there 4x 1.5 tons a day and transporting the aid by road to Meulaboh.
For you guys doing this out of Medan, if you get any hassles from anyone give me a call and I can call the Airport Chief whom I know... though I know he's a bit overwhelmed at the moment...
I know an operator based in Medan too that who might give spare resources (if any) to help you guys out...
Also for Medan, I have a couple of friends there and if you need any info that may help your rest periods, let me know.
Plus a couple of days ago are a couple of friends wanting to help in airops (fixed/rotary) asked me if anyone from outside need any help. Their experience is little, but safety minded, willing to help and could help out in language and other "local" problems... Some pilots, some want to put their time to a good cause...
No promises, but I'd like to help. Once again... thank you!
PK-KAR
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I've been running around other forums and wondered where the PPRuNe action regarding this tragedy is... seem to have found it...
I'm amazed at the perseverance you guys have!
Let me on the behalf of a local (albeit me being in Jakarta), and a couple of friends who have lost relatives in Aceh, and lost friends in other places do the least I can do... that is to say Thank You!
Any ops into Lhokseumawe/WITM?
For west coast ops, I hear they're putting up a small staging post in Blang Pidie south east of Meulaboh, the worst hit area. I hear C212s bringing aid in there 4x 1.5 tons a day and transporting the aid by road to Meulaboh.
For you guys doing this out of Medan, if you get any hassles from anyone give me a call and I can call the Airport Chief whom I know... though I know he's a bit overwhelmed at the moment...
I know an operator based in Medan too that who might give spare resources (if any) to help you guys out...
Also for Medan, I have a couple of friends there and if you need any info that may help your rest periods, let me know.
Plus a couple of days ago are a couple of friends wanting to help in airops (fixed/rotary) asked me if anyone from outside need any help. Their experience is little, but safety minded, willing to help and could help out in language and other "local" problems... Some pilots, some want to put their time to a good cause...
No promises, but I'd like to help. Once again... thank you!
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Icarus and all those who have volunteered to help:
It is still very difficult for us to gauge how long and how much flying there is going to be in Sumatra and Phuket. For instance, yesterday we demobilised the two 355s back to Kuala Lumpur only to get a call in the evening that one 355 is required back in South Thailand for another 2 weeks from Sunday. The other is headed for Banda Aceh for about 4 weeks.
The S61N has been averaging 5 hours a day and at this rate we can cope with our own S61 pilots. Every single one of them has volunteered to join the action but not all will get the chance to. One reason is we have a full time S61 operation to run in Kerteh. Another is we don't know how long more the S61 will be required in Sumatra. If flying picks up we will definitely call for help from the volunteers. All I can say is please stay tuned. For the moment the S61 in supposed to be there until Feb 4, 2005. There is a good chance of us staying on for another 2 months.
PK-KAR, I wish you had posted your message a day earlier. I would have called you for help. We had to send some urgent S61 spares to Medan and were sitting in Subang Airport (Kuala Lumpur) from 0800 hrs local yesterday waiting for a slot time to land. The first window we were given was for 2230 hrs! Finally, after much haggling, they said we could land there at 1700 hours. Even then, we had to hold for about 30 mins before given the clearance to land. At one stage they told us to expect to hold for up to 2 hours and suggested we return to Subang to wait. We were on ground for about 30 mins and then had to depart back to Subang due to limited parking bays.
Medan was like an airshow full of aircrafts of various types on static display. I met up with Phoenix Rising who was there with our S61 crew. Ned will work with the MHS boys for a couple of days before heading off to Banda Aceh to join the 355.
More updates soon.
RH
It is still very difficult for us to gauge how long and how much flying there is going to be in Sumatra and Phuket. For instance, yesterday we demobilised the two 355s back to Kuala Lumpur only to get a call in the evening that one 355 is required back in South Thailand for another 2 weeks from Sunday. The other is headed for Banda Aceh for about 4 weeks.
The S61N has been averaging 5 hours a day and at this rate we can cope with our own S61 pilots. Every single one of them has volunteered to join the action but not all will get the chance to. One reason is we have a full time S61 operation to run in Kerteh. Another is we don't know how long more the S61 will be required in Sumatra. If flying picks up we will definitely call for help from the volunteers. All I can say is please stay tuned. For the moment the S61 in supposed to be there until Feb 4, 2005. There is a good chance of us staying on for another 2 months.
PK-KAR, I wish you had posted your message a day earlier. I would have called you for help. We had to send some urgent S61 spares to Medan and were sitting in Subang Airport (Kuala Lumpur) from 0800 hrs local yesterday waiting for a slot time to land. The first window we were given was for 2230 hrs! Finally, after much haggling, they said we could land there at 1700 hours. Even then, we had to hold for about 30 mins before given the clearance to land. At one stage they told us to expect to hold for up to 2 hours and suggested we return to Subang to wait. We were on ground for about 30 mins and then had to depart back to Subang due to limited parking bays.
Medan was like an airshow full of aircrafts of various types on static display. I met up with Phoenix Rising who was there with our S61 crew. Ned will work with the MHS boys for a couple of days before heading off to Banda Aceh to join the 355.
More updates soon.
RH
Tsunami Helicopter Loading?
I am watching the relief effort on the TV and I am confused and annoyed at the operation of the helicopters that are there.
Every machine I have seen, is being hand loaded and then manually unloaded by the military and volunteers.
For every helicopter there is a line of 10 to 20 guys handing boxes to each other in the most slow and ineffective manner possible. How long does it take to load a Blackhawk in this manner and WHY?
What is wrong with the military that they are not slinging in these supplies?
Most machines carry more externally; you place the nets on the ground, a forklift or men load it in minutes and you carry it on your chosen length of line.
Safer, faster and more productive. Obviously you won't go as fast but is that a real issue.
I figure it is just the military being unable to perform external load work of this nature effectively.
Make some room military boys….let us pro's in.
ADDITIONALLY; what is happening out there?
Any companies you work for been approached to supply hardware or skills over there?
FACT: It is Canada's off season and there are more bush veterans in the country available right now, than in the rest of the world combined. The HAI meeting next month should be a ghost town but I bet it is barely affected.
Pilots in all of Canada represent the best of the world and there must be hundreds of potential pilots and machines that could respond if needed.
Every machine I have seen, is being hand loaded and then manually unloaded by the military and volunteers.
For every helicopter there is a line of 10 to 20 guys handing boxes to each other in the most slow and ineffective manner possible. How long does it take to load a Blackhawk in this manner and WHY?
What is wrong with the military that they are not slinging in these supplies?
Most machines carry more externally; you place the nets on the ground, a forklift or men load it in minutes and you carry it on your chosen length of line.
Safer, faster and more productive. Obviously you won't go as fast but is that a real issue.
I figure it is just the military being unable to perform external load work of this nature effectively.
Make some room military boys….let us pro's in.
ADDITIONALLY; what is happening out there?
Any companies you work for been approached to supply hardware or skills over there?
FACT: It is Canada's off season and there are more bush veterans in the country available right now, than in the rest of the world combined. The HAI meeting next month should be a ghost town but I bet it is barely affected.
Pilots in all of Canada represent the best of the world and there must be hundreds of potential pilots and machines that could respond if needed.
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Frightening watching how close the people affected by this disaster get to the tail rotor of the aircraft seems like a bit of a free for all, l hope nothing ever happens they have had enough death out there to last a lifetime.
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Steve 76,
Pull your head in mate. The only fact you need be concerned with is they would be doing the best they could given the situation.
To suggest that the various militaries involved do not know how to conduct external loads is naive at best but malicious and offensive at worst.
What is your agenda?
P.S. Work on your aircraft recognition skills mate. For the confusion and annoyance try a dose of humility and understanding. You muppet!
Pull your head in mate. The only fact you need be concerned with is they would be doing the best they could given the situation.
To suggest that the various militaries involved do not know how to conduct external loads is naive at best but malicious and offensive at worst.
What is your agenda?
P.S. Work on your aircraft recognition skills mate. For the confusion and annoyance try a dose of humility and understanding. You muppet!
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Maybe it's the cynic in me but I guess TV coverage of the victims of the Tsuanami carrying supplies from a helicopter, which just so happens to have a large national flag of the country it's from, has better PR/News potential than a slung loaded helicopter.
The good thing is that helicopters, their crews and support staff are all getting recognised out there for their hard work and it just shows how reliant we all are to these wonderfully versatile machines.
The good thing is that helicopters, their crews and support staff are all getting recognised out there for their hard work and it just shows how reliant we all are to these wonderfully versatile machines.
Steve, I suspect the problem is availability of nets and slings, as well as competent ground handlers/marshallers. If you have the supplies in the aircraft then you can land anywhere and hand out the goodies before moving onto the next place - if you have a netted load it will all have to be dismantled before you can move on or you will have to come back for the net and strop later which both add time to the distribution of the aid. You also have to assume that at the distribution centre there are enough qualified people to prepare the loads safely and keep a safety check on the nets and strops.