Australia: Training, Licence Conversion, Job Prospects
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Some more statistics.
I'm tired. For a couple of years I've been blaming it on iron-poor blood, lack of vitamins, dieting, and a dozen other maladies. But now I found out the real reason: I'm tired because I'm overworked.
The population of the USA is 237 million. 104 million are retired. That leaves 133 million to do the work.
There are 85 million in school, which leave 48 million to do the work.
Of this, there are 29 million employed by the federal government. This leaves 19 million to do the work.
Four million are in the Armed Forces, which leaves 15 million to do the work.
Take from the total the 14,800,000 people who work for State and City government and that leaves 200,000 to do the work.
There are 188,000 in hospitals, so that leaves 12,000 to do the work.
Now, there are 11,998 people in Prisons. That leaves just two people to do the work.
You and me.
And you're wasting your time reading this.
No wonder I'm tired; I'm the only one working.
The population of the USA is 237 million. 104 million are retired. That leaves 133 million to do the work.
There are 85 million in school, which leave 48 million to do the work.
Of this, there are 29 million employed by the federal government. This leaves 19 million to do the work.
Four million are in the Armed Forces, which leaves 15 million to do the work.
Take from the total the 14,800,000 people who work for State and City government and that leaves 200,000 to do the work.
There are 188,000 in hospitals, so that leaves 12,000 to do the work.
Now, there are 11,998 people in Prisons. That leaves just two people to do the work.
You and me.
And you're wasting your time reading this.
No wonder I'm tired; I'm the only one working.
Seventeen good jobs in Adelaide
Australian Helicopters has just released a media statement as follows:
Media Release
May 2005
Australian Helicopters has begun a recruitment drive, as it gears up to begin operating the Adelaide Bank Rescue Helicopter Service in December. Already the largest Australian owned helicopter operator in the country, the company is now seeking to fill 17 new positions based in Adelaide.
Australian Helicopters General Manager David Anderson said the move signalled a new phase in the company’s growth. “By the end of this year, Australian Helicopters will have more than 100 staff at nine bases around the country,” Mr Anderson said.
“We will also be increasing our fleet of helicopters to 26 to manage the increasing workload.” Under its contract with the South Australian Government, Australian Helicopters will provide three helicopters year-round to help with emergency medical evacuations, rescues, police patrols and fire fighting.
In the coming bushfire season, the company will provide a fourth aircraft with the capacity to water bomb 1,000 litres of water. The 7-year deal is worth an estimated $52 million dollars.
To carry out the work the company is now advertising for seven pilots, seven crew and three engineers. The pilots must have experience in multi-engine, single pilot instrument flight rules and night flying.
Australian Helicopters is also building life-sized mock-ups of the interiors of the three helicopters to be permanently based in Adelaide, to allow the medical and rescue officers, police and fire fighters who will use the aircraft to contribute ideas on the most effective layout.
Mr Anderson said this was an innovative requirement of the company’s contract with the South Australian government. “I don’t know that any other civil helicopter contract has required this degree of input into the technical design phase,” Mr Anderson said.
“But Australian Helicopters is happy to comply because we know from experience that every second counts in an emergency response situation and we want to make sure that the interior layout of our aircraft contributes to the goal of saving time and saving lives.”
Australian Helicopters is also planning to start work next month on building a new $1.6 million headquarters for its Adelaide operation. The headquarters will include a hangar for four aircraft, refuelling facilities, an on-site office and accommodation for duty crews.
It will be located at the newly developed Adelaide airport helicopter precinct, where Australian Helicopters will be the first company to take up occupancy.
The helicopters to be permanently based there include a Bell 412, a BK117 and an EC130. The fourth helicopter to be used during the bushfire season will be an AS350 B3 Firebomber.
For further information or to arrange interviews, please contact Melanie Christiansen, at Sequel Communications, on +61 7 3251 8133 or +61 438.500 412.
END.
PS: Hey, mustering guru - we are a lucky country. Australian Helicopters is wholly Australian owned.
See if you can bag this one?
Media Release
May 2005
Australian Helicopters has begun a recruitment drive, as it gears up to begin operating the Adelaide Bank Rescue Helicopter Service in December. Already the largest Australian owned helicopter operator in the country, the company is now seeking to fill 17 new positions based in Adelaide.
Australian Helicopters General Manager David Anderson said the move signalled a new phase in the company’s growth. “By the end of this year, Australian Helicopters will have more than 100 staff at nine bases around the country,” Mr Anderson said.
“We will also be increasing our fleet of helicopters to 26 to manage the increasing workload.” Under its contract with the South Australian Government, Australian Helicopters will provide three helicopters year-round to help with emergency medical evacuations, rescues, police patrols and fire fighting.
In the coming bushfire season, the company will provide a fourth aircraft with the capacity to water bomb 1,000 litres of water. The 7-year deal is worth an estimated $52 million dollars.
To carry out the work the company is now advertising for seven pilots, seven crew and three engineers. The pilots must have experience in multi-engine, single pilot instrument flight rules and night flying.
Australian Helicopters is also building life-sized mock-ups of the interiors of the three helicopters to be permanently based in Adelaide, to allow the medical and rescue officers, police and fire fighters who will use the aircraft to contribute ideas on the most effective layout.
Mr Anderson said this was an innovative requirement of the company’s contract with the South Australian government. “I don’t know that any other civil helicopter contract has required this degree of input into the technical design phase,” Mr Anderson said.
“But Australian Helicopters is happy to comply because we know from experience that every second counts in an emergency response situation and we want to make sure that the interior layout of our aircraft contributes to the goal of saving time and saving lives.”
Australian Helicopters is also planning to start work next month on building a new $1.6 million headquarters for its Adelaide operation. The headquarters will include a hangar for four aircraft, refuelling facilities, an on-site office and accommodation for duty crews.
It will be located at the newly developed Adelaide airport helicopter precinct, where Australian Helicopters will be the first company to take up occupancy.
The helicopters to be permanently based there include a Bell 412, a BK117 and an EC130. The fourth helicopter to be used during the bushfire season will be an AS350 B3 Firebomber.
For further information or to arrange interviews, please contact Melanie Christiansen, at Sequel Communications, on +61 7 3251 8133 or +61 438.500 412.
END.
PS: Hey, mustering guru - we are a lucky country. Australian Helicopters is wholly Australian owned.
See if you can bag this one?
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hard info on industry activity
All,
there is a new report out produced by BTRE on the state of play in all the GA operations. Parts are worth reading if you are considering career decisions.
Formal name
Report 111
General Aviation : an industry overview.
www.btre.gov.au
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there is a new report out produced by BTRE on the state of play in all the GA operations. Parts are worth reading if you are considering career decisions.
Formal name
Report 111
General Aviation : an industry overview.
www.btre.gov.au
The Eye
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catseye,
interesting statistics on that site, all sectors of general aviation on the decrease except for flying training.
more pilots less hours.
if all the current helicopter pilot licence holders in australia were to be employed till they are all used up the training industry could shut down for about ten years.
in flying training in australia we turn over the equivalent of our working pilots every four years.
casa's web site, under statistics, has the current commercial pilots with medicals as under 900. private 600 and some atpl's
of those pilots, 200 were licenced in the past two years.
the numbers are kept around that total by schools putting out 200+ each year.
this number also includes foreign students issued with australian certificates who have since gone home, most never to fly professionally ever, unfortunately.
i have seen very few new machines delivered to commerial operators over the last 10 years.
the private sector is catching up in numbers and seems to be the only part of the industry that can afford new machinery.
it will be fantastic if the projections are realised, jobs for all, utopia. lets hope.
interesting statistics on that site, all sectors of general aviation on the decrease except for flying training.
more pilots less hours.
if all the current helicopter pilot licence holders in australia were to be employed till they are all used up the training industry could shut down for about ten years.
in flying training in australia we turn over the equivalent of our working pilots every four years.
casa's web site, under statistics, has the current commercial pilots with medicals as under 900. private 600 and some atpl's
of those pilots, 200 were licenced in the past two years.
the numbers are kept around that total by schools putting out 200+ each year.
this number also includes foreign students issued with australian certificates who have since gone home, most never to fly professionally ever, unfortunately.
i have seen very few new machines delivered to commerial operators over the last 10 years.
the private sector is catching up in numbers and seems to be the only part of the industry that can afford new machinery.
it will be fantastic if the projections are realised, jobs for all, utopia. lets hope.
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now advertising for seven pilots, seven crew and three engineers. The pilots must have experience in multi-engine, single pilot instrument flight rules and night flying.
Wonder how much they plan on paying this miracle seven?
Two possibles i've heard of , Australian Helicopters for the SA govt. contract or a machine for Customs/Coast watch (Not Australian Helicopters!).
Whoever it's for the AB will catch them out the Italians change lots of little things on there helo's , in the Hyd, Fuel systems etc what may fit your B412 may not fit the AB 412 operating next to it! Found this out the hard way in Norway and mid east operating mixed fleets. Also the Italian IPC's and MM are not the same as the Bell ones and in some areas leave a bit to be desired!!
Whoever it's for the AB will catch them out the Italians change lots of little things on there helo's , in the Hyd, Fuel systems etc what may fit your B412 may not fit the AB 412 operating next to it! Found this out the hard way in Norway and mid east operating mixed fleets. Also the Italian IPC's and MM are not the same as the Bell ones and in some areas leave a bit to be desired!!
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Mmmmm ....
and if the sucker is not modified with the EPs DF engines and transmission mods its gunna have some performance restrictions particularly with OEI flight ...
good luck chaps ...
and if the sucker is not modified with the EPs DF engines and transmission mods its gunna have some performance restrictions particularly with OEI flight ...
good luck chaps ...
Australasian updates - news still good
Australia - Year to 12 Jun ’05.
Since January the fleet has grown from 1192 to 1237, an increase of 45 helicopters. The growth over 23 weeks is about two new helicopters on the Register each week. This is a slight increase in the growth rate from 7.8% to 8.55%, bringing it up to the average of the past twelve months. At this rate of increase there will be extra 102 helicopters on the Register by 31 December, or another 120 jobs by this growth alone, plus normal attrition.
New Zealand – Year to 31 May ‘05
Since January the fleet has grown from 597 helicopters to 613, an increase of 16 helicopters. The growth over 21 weeks is 16 helicopters or 0.76 new helicopters on the Register per week. This is a slight decrease in the growth rate from over 8% to 6.64%. It is also below the growth rate over the past twelve months. At this rate of growth there will be an extra 40 machines on the Register by 31 December, or another 48 jobs, plus those created by normal attrition.
Outlook: The helicopter industry is in a very healthy state. Most distributors indicate that delays on the production lines, due to a world wide strong demand, has slowed deliveries in Australasia. Had stock been available, the above figures would have been higher.
From 17 May – 12 Jun ‘05
Who bought what – Australia
R22 – 5, R44 – 4. One each of Bell 47, Bell 206, Bell 427 and Schweizer 269.
Who bought what – New Zealand
R22 – 3. One each of AS350 and Hughes 500.
Hope this helps the job hunters, or maybe the dealers. If you want the list of new owners, then PM me for a listing from 17 May -12 Jun ’05. Just happy to help out.
Sources: CASA and NZ CAA government websites.
Since January the fleet has grown from 1192 to 1237, an increase of 45 helicopters. The growth over 23 weeks is about two new helicopters on the Register each week. This is a slight increase in the growth rate from 7.8% to 8.55%, bringing it up to the average of the past twelve months. At this rate of increase there will be extra 102 helicopters on the Register by 31 December, or another 120 jobs by this growth alone, plus normal attrition.
New Zealand – Year to 31 May ‘05
Since January the fleet has grown from 597 helicopters to 613, an increase of 16 helicopters. The growth over 21 weeks is 16 helicopters or 0.76 new helicopters on the Register per week. This is a slight decrease in the growth rate from over 8% to 6.64%. It is also below the growth rate over the past twelve months. At this rate of growth there will be an extra 40 machines on the Register by 31 December, or another 48 jobs, plus those created by normal attrition.
Outlook: The helicopter industry is in a very healthy state. Most distributors indicate that delays on the production lines, due to a world wide strong demand, has slowed deliveries in Australasia. Had stock been available, the above figures would have been higher.
From 17 May – 12 Jun ‘05
Who bought what – Australia
R22 – 5, R44 – 4. One each of Bell 47, Bell 206, Bell 427 and Schweizer 269.
Who bought what – New Zealand
R22 – 3. One each of AS350 and Hughes 500.
Hope this helps the job hunters, or maybe the dealers. If you want the list of new owners, then PM me for a listing from 17 May -12 Jun ’05. Just happy to help out.
Sources: CASA and NZ CAA government websites.
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Big Mike
I heard Aero pwr were ok but hard work sometimes working away from base for a bit, which would suit you and with all your H500 time. (does this guy know me
) the pay is ok. My CFI used to work for them for quite a while actually had nothing bad to say about them. I will get a reference for you and/or find out some more.
How are the chicks were you are dude?? in your element
(Fantastic!)clue
I heard Aero pwr were ok but hard work sometimes working away from base for a bit, which would suit you and with all your H500 time. (does this guy know me
) the pay is ok. My CFI used to work for them for quite a while actually had nothing bad to say about them. I will get a reference for you and/or find out some more.How are the chicks were you are dude?? in your element
(Fantastic!)clue
Australasian updates – addendum.
In order to help job seekers, a couple of posts ago I gave an update for the 17 May – 12 Jun ’05 in Australia and New Zealand. I forgot to mention an important point for industry watchers.
Those who are watching where their next job comes from need to be aware of another set of figures. Increase in fleet size is one thing; but a lot of machines are bought and sold in the reporting period; these figures do not change the fleet size.
Much like buying a second hand car where you live, numbers remain the same, owners just change.
Now this last reporting period has shown a most unusual situation in New Zealand, maybe “pprunites” will have the answer for us.
Australia: 17 May 12 Jun ’05. Added 12 to fleet, but 19 changed hands. A sort of "average" event for register watchers.
New Zealand: 17 May – 31 May: Added only 5 to fleet, but an extraordinary 32 changed hands. This is not an usual event, so a lot of people have bought second hand machines.
Thus NZ people would need to be ask: "Who are these new owners and are they starting or expanding a business?"
Food for thought. Any feedback?
Hope this helps. If you want the list of all new owners, then PM me for a listing. Best of luck!
Sources: CASA and NZ CAA government websites.
Those who are watching where their next job comes from need to be aware of another set of figures. Increase in fleet size is one thing; but a lot of machines are bought and sold in the reporting period; these figures do not change the fleet size.
Much like buying a second hand car where you live, numbers remain the same, owners just change.
Now this last reporting period has shown a most unusual situation in New Zealand, maybe “pprunites” will have the answer for us.
Australia: 17 May 12 Jun ’05. Added 12 to fleet, but 19 changed hands. A sort of "average" event for register watchers.
New Zealand: 17 May – 31 May: Added only 5 to fleet, but an extraordinary 32 changed hands. This is not an usual event, so a lot of people have bought second hand machines.
Thus NZ people would need to be ask: "Who are these new owners and are they starting or expanding a business?"
Food for thought. Any feedback?
Hope this helps. If you want the list of all new owners, then PM me for a listing. Best of luck!
Sources: CASA and NZ CAA government websites.
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WHO Is worth working for in Australia ??
Reading thru recent threads I notice a lot of negativity about Australian employers and companies in general.
Recent postings about Jayrow, Esso, Australian Helicopters, Gymble and Beckers to name a few have made me wonder how many Aussie pilots are happy with the company and management they work for ????.
I haven't always been happy with the companies i've worked for in this country but i certainly am now. I just wonder if many other PPruners are ???
Recent postings about Jayrow, Esso, Australian Helicopters, Gymble and Beckers to name a few have made me wonder how many Aussie pilots are happy with the company and management they work for ????.
I haven't always been happy with the companies i've worked for in this country but i certainly am now. I just wonder if many other PPruners are ???
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"Overpitched" Good to see someone is having a positive experience.
A curious thing to note, is that much of the negativity in the threads you refer to comes from a few historically negative sources.
Also of interest is that much of the negative content is at least 2nd hand and often even more removed. Where is the first hand input? Or don't they participate here?
The recently emerged "up and go" (morphing names?)appears to be subtly different. Not for him (or her) the simple "tear it down" motive. He's had a post removed already but clearly wants to find whatever thread will let him stay long enough to denigrate which appears to be more the aim.
A curious thing to note, is that much of the negativity in the threads you refer to comes from a few historically negative sources.
Also of interest is that much of the negative content is at least 2nd hand and often even more removed. Where is the first hand input? Or don't they participate here?
The recently emerged "up and go" (morphing names?)appears to be subtly different. Not for him (or her) the simple "tear it down" motive. He's had a post removed already but clearly wants to find whatever thread will let him stay long enough to denigrate which appears to be more the aim.
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Put it down perhaps to the Australian healthy disrespect for authority. As with any organisation you find both up and down sides, and as with most people, you find a tendency for the negatives to be talked about rather than the positives. (It has been said that the only time you hear anything positive of a person is at their funeral). Its probably a reflection on the desire of most people to try and improve on what they see about them. I spent my time with Esso and would rate it as the best job in the world, that is not to say there was no down side. See the item by Peter Tickner at
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=180205
I ranked Peter as among the best, if not the best, C & T pilot I ever had the privilege of flying with.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=180205
I ranked Peter as among the best, if not the best, C & T pilot I ever had the privilege of flying with.
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LIFE'S GOOD!!!!
Spent nearly ten yrs in the Mil followed by the last 4 1/2 yrs in a contract role. Have had great times in both. $$ lifestyle and wife & kids all being happy has largely resulted in my choices. Yes as others in the post have eluded to ESSO is a good option, but then there are many good options. Also have mates in CHC-Aust, Bristows-Aust, QLD Rescue, RAN and RAAF , media channels, Sea World Heli and all are happy mainly because thay are good guys and are motivated.
I guess it all boils down to what kind of person you are and what floats your boat. There are many folks that are manky and narly simply because that's their personality. Beware the late night negative sentament from other pruners that have an axe to grind. These dudes are generally in it to arc folks up and see what they get in terms of bites. Pretty easy advice here, The best way to look like a di - -head is to argue with one, hence don't.
My 2 cents, There has probably never been a better time to be in RW aviation as many jobs/opportunities are opening up with the vietnam/baby boomer dudes looking at retirement on the horizon and coys expanding. Chin up-Life is Good!!!!
Yes PT is a good bloke and did my wings test a few moons ago.
I guess it all boils down to what kind of person you are and what floats your boat. There are many folks that are manky and narly simply because that's their personality. Beware the late night negative sentament from other pruners that have an axe to grind. These dudes are generally in it to arc folks up and see what they get in terms of bites. Pretty easy advice here, The best way to look like a di - -head is to argue with one, hence don't.
My 2 cents, There has probably never been a better time to be in RW aviation as many jobs/opportunities are opening up with the vietnam/baby boomer dudes looking at retirement on the horizon and coys expanding. Chin up-Life is Good!!!!
Yes PT is a good bloke and did my wings test a few moons ago.
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Gidday E86
As one of your far removed love childs (product of PT, Bangers, Gash(mutley under training) and BLUGG)
Allo form the prodical son..............................
GIS
As one of your far removed love childs (product of PT, Bangers, Gash(mutley under training) and BLUGG)
Allo form the prodical son..............................
GIS