Global Eagle - And 'Global Beagle - Around Britain in a Virtual Autogyro'
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Goodness me Bill, lighten up will you!!
Read it like it's meant to be, like a lot of other viewers
Is this a last minute bid to be part of the team, now that Barry is on his way, when before you also had your doubts. Have you previously expressed your views in the bar with no fear of anyone coming back to you?
I very much doubt that I am the only one who thought that this would not go ahead, but now that it is am I now not allowed to send my good wishes to Barry?
How very sanctimonious of you.
Well if you read the first post, you'll find I said,
"Good luck to the team, but knowing a few of them fairly well, I wonder of their chances of actually pulling it off. I may be a great cynic, but based on personal track records it must rate high in improbables."
I still stand by what I said and I am not prepared to go into individual personal traits on this forum.
Reprimand
by pointing out that he also sits on an internet forum and has more than likely played no part in the exped?
I take it that's you reprimanding me then!
Thanks for the abuse and please stop PM'ing me for my identity, Thanks
If you don't like it here, don't come back.
But I have a feeling you will.......yawn!
Read it like it's meant to be, like a lot of other viewers
Is this a last minute bid to be part of the team, now that Barry is on his way, when before you also had your doubts. Have you previously expressed your views in the bar with no fear of anyone coming back to you?
I very much doubt that I am the only one who thought that this would not go ahead, but now that it is am I now not allowed to send my good wishes to Barry?
How very sanctimonious of you.
You spent most of this thread criticising the Exped and generally pushing across a point of view that is totally negative
"Good luck to the team, but knowing a few of them fairly well, I wonder of their chances of actually pulling it off. I may be a great cynic, but based on personal track records it must rate high in improbables."
I still stand by what I said and I am not prepared to go into individual personal traits on this forum.
How dare you 'repremand' someone else for making a comment that is positive.
by pointing out that he also sits on an internet forum and has more than likely played no part in the exped?I take it that's you reprimanding me then!
Thanks for the abuse and please stop PM'ing me for my identity, Thanks
If you don't like it here, don't come back.
But I have a feeling you will.......yawn!
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Tosser.
SilsoeSid, you must be a woman with the changing view points, illogical arguments and general lack of facts that have been proven on your part. Am I married to you???
PM was just asking, once. You seem to make out it was a barrage? Again, you must be a Doris with that kind of over reaction.
Youre still a tosser BTW, do you drink with ABIW, because hes a cnut too?
(ABIW has been very quiet on this thread, has he been involved in a pile up on the M40?) heres hoping anyway.
Anyway, good luck Barry and all the team. (Remember Stu, I was always Pro this project, tell Silso to wind his neck in).
SilsoeSid, you must be a woman with the changing view points, illogical arguments and general lack of facts that have been proven on your part. Am I married to you???
PM was just asking, once. You seem to make out it was a barrage? Again, you must be a Doris with that kind of over reaction.
Youre still a tosser BTW, do you drink with ABIW, because hes a cnut too?
(ABIW has been very quiet on this thread, has he been involved in a pile up on the M40?) heres hoping anyway.
Anyway, good luck Barry and all the team. (Remember Stu, I was always Pro this project, tell Silso to wind his neck in).
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Thanks for your contribution there Bill.
I see from your post history, in your profile, you tend to go off like this fairly often.
ABIW I'm sure will be watching and doesn't feel the need to comment on this thread. You seem to be doing a good enough job as it is to let us know what sort of person you are
To wish someone to be involved in a pile up on th M40 must be fairly low.
I don't want to keep repeating this, but please don't turn this thread into a slanging match. If you really don't like it simply don't come back and it won't upset you.
I think by now Barry has the idea you're behind him all the way, you don't have to have it as your signature each time you post.
p.s Is Stu your big brother?
I see the book idea has kicked off.
Pity you can\'t copyright ideas
Don't tell me, it wasn't my idea as it was in the pipeline anyway!!
If that is the case, why hasn't it been mentioned before?
I see from your post history, in your profile, you tend to go off like this fairly often.
ABIW I'm sure will be watching and doesn't feel the need to comment on this thread. You seem to be doing a good enough job as it is to let us know what sort of person you are
To wish someone to be involved in a pile up on th M40 must be fairly low.
I don't want to keep repeating this, but please don't turn this thread into a slanging match. If you really don't like it simply don't come back and it won't upset you.
I think by now Barry has the idea you're behind him all the way, you don't have to have it as your signature each time you post.
p.s Is Stu your big brother?
I see the book idea has kicked off.
I´m not allowed to publish my diary anymore as it would stop the publishers from publishing the book about this project. Stu will be summerising the diary that I send him and will keep posting it on the net
Don't tell me, it wasn't my idea as it was in the pipeline anyway!!
If that is the case, why hasn't it been mentioned before?
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Takes more of a person to go out there and do it than to sit on an internet forum and have a go.
1) Go out and do it = More of a person
2) Sit on an internet forum AND HAVE A GO (i.e bitch and be cynical) = Less of a person
So I am on an internet forum, but not slagging his attempt off. Starting to make sense now is it ?
So in reply to your question,
By the way, aren't you just sitting on an internet forum? And what part have you played to contribute to the mission?
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OK, ok, no big deal, it doesn´t matter who supports this flight or not, its happening, just. This is the latest stupidity i´ve managed to come up with.
This morning, having jump started the Eagle due to my leaving a circuit breaker in for two days, I ´spiked´ the radio and now it has to be repaired. The local German Engineers are looking at that for me but i´ve just lost what looks like the one weather window I had to get through the Apls for about five days. Gutted!
The more I am delayed the closer I bring myself to the Monsoon season futher along the route. Again, Gutted.
Anyway, an extract from my book (sil) will be posted on the web shortly that tells exactly what happend today. haven´t mentioned the book before because it is nothing to do with the charity side of the project and I don´t want to mix the two. The plan was for the book to try and recover the money i´ve put into this project, but who knows. I´m 70,000 words into it and so far its been about the planning and setting up of the Exped´- obviously. The other reason for not letting on about it is because of my Dyslexia. I´m not sure I can write a book thats good enough to sell, look at my spelling!! Anyway, i´m giving it a go and if it sells, great, if not its a record of what happend, for me when i´m old - er.
I´ll try to get on this thread when I can but I don´t know when that will be. All the best and play nice.
Barry.
This morning, having jump started the Eagle due to my leaving a circuit breaker in for two days, I ´spiked´ the radio and now it has to be repaired. The local German Engineers are looking at that for me but i´ve just lost what looks like the one weather window I had to get through the Apls for about five days. Gutted!
The more I am delayed the closer I bring myself to the Monsoon season futher along the route. Again, Gutted.
Anyway, an extract from my book (sil) will be posted on the web shortly that tells exactly what happend today. haven´t mentioned the book before because it is nothing to do with the charity side of the project and I don´t want to mix the two. The plan was for the book to try and recover the money i´ve put into this project, but who knows. I´m 70,000 words into it and so far its been about the planning and setting up of the Exped´- obviously. The other reason for not letting on about it is because of my Dyslexia. I´m not sure I can write a book thats good enough to sell, look at my spelling!! Anyway, i´m giving it a go and if it sells, great, if not its a record of what happend, for me when i´m old - er.
I´ll try to get on this thread when I can but I don´t know when that will be. All the best and play nice.
Barry.
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I have followed this thread from the beginning and up until today never really felt the need to post. As Barry has finally got around to reading it and posting his own thoughts I thought it about time I did.
This project has had a lot of ups and downs, sadly too many downs for my liking and it's just a fact of life that people will form an opinion on just about anything. The fact is that as a team we have dealt with it and concentrated on a common aim. Some of my closest friends are serious doubters about the expedition succeeding, some openly declare it and others choose to say it after i've walked out of the door, after the smile and the "good luck".
I do feel that it is maybe time to answer a few questions that I know have been raised here. There's no better place to start than at the beginning so here goes:
Will the expedition leave on time?
Sadly not, the explanations for the various delays we had have been posted on our website and I for one know that they have been painfully honest. There really was nothing to gain from leaving late, it makes the trip more hazardous, particularly in the areas of Myanmar, Lao etc.
Will clearances really have been given?
No. I answer that one assuming you mean dip/pol clearances. As of today we still require clearances to fly through Russia, China and Canada. Also Denmark have asked for more information before allowing overflight of Greenland. We are working very closely in conjunction with Embassy staff to gain these clearances and poor Tina is working her fingers off to smooth the way. If the next question is "why go then", it's easy, the fact we are on the move creates publicity and hopefully positive publicity will help our efforts..as it already has for Saudi, Oman, Myanmar etc etc For instance; we were told on day one that clearance for China would not be given until 3 days before entry. Unless we started in Rangoon it would be difficult to ever get going!
Will the backup be sufficient?
If you mean ground support from team members then all I can say is that the support will be the best we can give with the financial constraints we have. To say that finance is limited would be an understatement. Barry is paying for his fuel, food, overflight costs and landing fees out of his own pocket, thats after paying for a certified aircraft. The backup that we are getting from Embassy staff has been brilliant and the offers of help from all over the world are coming in thick and fast. I noticed another comment earlier that said shouldn't fuel, accomodation etc have already been arranged. The short answer is yes and it has in most cases, but it hasn't been paid for. From Oman Barry is effectively on his own until Nome, Alaska.
Will the aircraft itself return with it's wheels?
Maybe, maybe not. Or maybe not the ones it left with. I'll ask the audience.
Why aren't they converting to Apache?
Easy one this. I'm too old and too stupid. Barry's eyesight isn't good enough. Wayne is a groundcrewman and hopefully will fly Apache one day. Andy and Lee are engineers and probably don't want to. Tina already has a job in Netheravon. Keith and Stu don't have enough time left to serve. Nige went off to fly with the Blue Eagles. Euan and Pete D are currently at Middle Wallop converting to Apache. Paul wanted to go QHI so returned to flying.
Are our taxes still paying for the teams wages?
Yes they are and can I take this opportunity to thank you all. On a more serious note you should bear in mind that the team has visited over 200 schools in the UK, nearly all financed by ourselves. You might find that this has been cheaper (and possibly more effective) than many recuiting teams. That said, we all appreciate the opportunity given to us.
Does the CO 9AAC still wash his hands of the enterprise?
The now Ex CO 9 Regt is our Project Officer. Enough said on that one.
If anyone has any questions then please feel free to ask away, give us a call on Dishforth 4533 (01423 321533) or send any of the team an e-mail.
I'd like to take this opportunity to thank everyone at PPRUNE for their support, especially those that have taken the trouble to visit, and silsoesid for generating this thread. I DO NOT believe that there is no such thing as bad publicity but on the other hand I DO believe that everyone has the right to an opinion, and to voice it.
Best wishes
Pete Taylor
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This project has had a lot of ups and downs, sadly too many downs for my liking and it's just a fact of life that people will form an opinion on just about anything. The fact is that as a team we have dealt with it and concentrated on a common aim. Some of my closest friends are serious doubters about the expedition succeeding, some openly declare it and others choose to say it after i've walked out of the door, after the smile and the "good luck".
I do feel that it is maybe time to answer a few questions that I know have been raised here. There's no better place to start than at the beginning so here goes:
Will the expedition leave on time?
Sadly not, the explanations for the various delays we had have been posted on our website and I for one know that they have been painfully honest. There really was nothing to gain from leaving late, it makes the trip more hazardous, particularly in the areas of Myanmar, Lao etc.
Will clearances really have been given?
No. I answer that one assuming you mean dip/pol clearances. As of today we still require clearances to fly through Russia, China and Canada. Also Denmark have asked for more information before allowing overflight of Greenland. We are working very closely in conjunction with Embassy staff to gain these clearances and poor Tina is working her fingers off to smooth the way. If the next question is "why go then", it's easy, the fact we are on the move creates publicity and hopefully positive publicity will help our efforts..as it already has for Saudi, Oman, Myanmar etc etc For instance; we were told on day one that clearance for China would not be given until 3 days before entry. Unless we started in Rangoon it would be difficult to ever get going!
Will the backup be sufficient?
If you mean ground support from team members then all I can say is that the support will be the best we can give with the financial constraints we have. To say that finance is limited would be an understatement. Barry is paying for his fuel, food, overflight costs and landing fees out of his own pocket, thats after paying for a certified aircraft. The backup that we are getting from Embassy staff has been brilliant and the offers of help from all over the world are coming in thick and fast. I noticed another comment earlier that said shouldn't fuel, accomodation etc have already been arranged. The short answer is yes and it has in most cases, but it hasn't been paid for. From Oman Barry is effectively on his own until Nome, Alaska.
Will the aircraft itself return with it's wheels?
Maybe, maybe not. Or maybe not the ones it left with. I'll ask the audience.
Why aren't they converting to Apache?
Easy one this. I'm too old and too stupid. Barry's eyesight isn't good enough. Wayne is a groundcrewman and hopefully will fly Apache one day. Andy and Lee are engineers and probably don't want to. Tina already has a job in Netheravon. Keith and Stu don't have enough time left to serve. Nige went off to fly with the Blue Eagles. Euan and Pete D are currently at Middle Wallop converting to Apache. Paul wanted to go QHI so returned to flying.
Are our taxes still paying for the teams wages?
Yes they are and can I take this opportunity to thank you all. On a more serious note you should bear in mind that the team has visited over 200 schools in the UK, nearly all financed by ourselves. You might find that this has been cheaper (and possibly more effective) than many recuiting teams. That said, we all appreciate the opportunity given to us.
Does the CO 9AAC still wash his hands of the enterprise?
The now Ex CO 9 Regt is our Project Officer. Enough said on that one.
If anyone has any questions then please feel free to ask away, give us a call on Dishforth 4533 (01423 321533) or send any of the team an e-mail.
I'd like to take this opportunity to thank everyone at PPRUNE for their support, especially those that have taken the trouble to visit, and silsoesid for generating this thread. I DO NOT believe that there is no such thing as bad publicity but on the other hand I DO believe that everyone has the right to an opinion, and to voice it.
Best wishes
Pete Taylor
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Just come across this thread while nosing around. Thank you all so much for the interest..especially Misnomer who I know is biased!
Keep watching and nip into our website forum when you get a chance.
All the best
Global Eagle Team
Keep watching and nip into our website forum when you get a chance.
All the best
Global Eagle Team
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Bj,
Sorry, can't get used to this "Barry" bit. Tried to get to wallop to see you off but got caught by a roster change. Glad you're reading this and that you finally got away safely,
Just remember;
IT'S BETTER TO REGRET THINGS YOU DID,
TO HAVE LOVED AND LOST,
TRIED AND MISSED,
THAN TO HAVE SPENT ALL YOUR LIFE W**NKING.
by the way, the flightdeck of an A321 is a lot more comfortable!!
Good luck
Jim T
Sorry, can't get used to this "Barry" bit. Tried to get to wallop to see you off but got caught by a roster change. Glad you're reading this and that you finally got away safely,
Just remember;
IT'S BETTER TO REGRET THINGS YOU DID,
TO HAVE LOVED AND LOST,
TRIED AND MISSED,
THAN TO HAVE SPENT ALL YOUR LIFE W**NKING.
by the way, the flightdeck of an A321 is a lot more comfortable!!
Good luck
Jim T
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Nice reply Pete, thanks. That is just what was needed to bring this thread back on course.
Hopefully FFP and Bill will now be able to read this as it was meant to be;(without turning it into the standard slanging match, as seemed to be on their agenda to get it closed or not worth carrying on.
Light hearted, a subject for discussion on both sides of the fence and mainly to make fellow pruners aware of Barrys journey.
The wheels question was posed because of the scouser influence in the team.
Of course Barry has my support, (I don't think I am being hypocrytical in saying that), because as an Army Pilot I know that he will scale all the many hurdles put in front of him, as we all have done, to achieve an aim, emerge triumphant and will publish a great book.
Hopefully FFP and Bill will now be able to read this as it was meant to be;(without turning it into the standard slanging match, as seemed to be on their agenda to get it closed or not worth carrying on.
Light hearted, a subject for discussion on both sides of the fence and mainly to make fellow pruners aware of Barrys journey.
The wheels question was posed because of the scouser influence in the team.
Of course Barry has my support, (I don't think I am being hypocrytical in saying that), because as an Army Pilot I know that he will scale all the many hurdles put in front of him, as we all have done, to achieve an aim, emerge triumphant and will publish a great book.
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Not sure where you get your kicks Siloe but if you think you are doing BJ any favours here let me tell you that your posts read like the front page of the Sunday Sport, provocative and nasty.
BJ, saw you leave the other day and wish you the very best of luck, it takes more than guts to try something like this and I hope you succeed.
Gunz
BJ, saw you leave the other day and wish you the very best of luck, it takes more than guts to try something like this and I hope you succeed.
Gunz
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Thanks for your input Gunz.
I take it you have read the thread, so- mission accomplished
You'll not be coming back then, so seeya
Bet you still have a flick through, no matter how provocative and nasty you find it!
I take it you have read the thread, so- mission accomplished
You'll not be coming back then, so seeya
Bet you still have a flick through, no matter how provocative and nasty you find it!
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Hey Maersk,
Seems that by your username, you moved over just in time. I can't imagine that flightdeck being as comfortable as it was for a while.
More weather probs,
Pssst, Don't mention the war!
Seems that by your username, you moved over just in time. I can't imagine that flightdeck being as comfortable as it was for a while.
More weather probs,
Barry has had to make an unsheduled landing due to bad weather. He landed safely in a field approximately 30km North of Bolzano. Barry and the aircraft are fine.
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Still weathered in
Pssst, did you turn everything off Barry? 
As a matter of interest, anyone know the ceiling of the autogyro? and what is the max height expected to be in transit over the Alps?
As a matter of interest, anyone know the ceiling of the autogyro? and what is the max height expected to be in transit over the Alps?
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Ken Wallis, of Little Nellie fame, held the record for many years at around 17,500 feet but I think that has been beat in the USA and is somewhere around 22,000feet. When Brian Milton flew through the Alps on his world flight in a WeightShift Microlight he got through at 9,500feet. I phoned him after I had landed and he told me that it was a CAVOK day when he did it - if only!
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Fascinating posts that are not only interesting but very very funny
Silk tounged Sid has them rolling a wicked sense of humour that we have learned to adapt to
Good luck on the flight, bet its a bit nippy over them Alps!!
Will keep my eye on this as its not only a great project but a great thread!!
Silk tounged Sid has them rolling a wicked sense of humour that we have learned to adapt to Good luck on the flight, bet its a bit nippy over them Alps!!
Will keep my eye on this as its not only a great project but a great thread!!
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Barry is now over the Alps.
Must have been breathtaking
Must have been breathtaking
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Bj
Good luck on the trip, just got round to reading the interesting, and not so interesting, posts. Yours obviously rate very highly.
Keith, remember to go out in pairs not on your own, or you may loose your shoes.
Keep it up in all sorts of ways.
Good luck on the trip, just got round to reading the interesting, and not so interesting, posts. Yours obviously rate very highly.
Keith, remember to go out in pairs not on your own, or you may loose your shoes. Keep it up in all sorts of ways.
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Update
The latest fron the GE website.
yesterday;
Today;
Call me a bluff old traditionalist, but surely if you are to go on a 'Round the World' journey, it would be prudent to get the method of transport serviced before departure.
I hear Halfords can provide a good service except on Sundays, Oh and Saturday afternoons!
Maybe it's the attraction of the vino and the pasta, but how does the service take so long? Is it not just a spark plug clean, oil change and a quick tyre check?
2 weeks so far and we are in Italy .
At this rate Barry will just be back in time for Christmas, which would explain this picture taken the other day, of Barry at the maintenance facility getting the undercarriage looked at.
I get the feeling that the new ETA will be chrimbo, as the beard is coming along nicely
Just done the calculation, perhaps Christmas is a bit optimistic.
yesterday;
Barry finds himself at the Magni factory over in Italy. The aircraft is undergoing maintenance today.
Barry will be spending another day with the Magni crew. He has been asked by the Italian media to carry out some further interviews whilst the aircraft continues on maintenance. He will look to depart for Bari tomorrow.
I hear Halfords can provide a good service except on Sundays, Oh and Saturday afternoons!
Maybe it's the attraction of the vino and the pasta, but how does the service take so long? Is it not just a spark plug clean, oil change and a quick tyre check?
2 weeks so far and we are in Italy .
At this rate Barry will just be back in time for Christmas, which would explain this picture taken the other day, of Barry at the maintenance facility getting the undercarriage looked at.
I get the feeling that the new ETA will be chrimbo, as the beard is coming along nicely
Just done the calculation, perhaps Christmas is a bit optimistic.