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Old 20th May 2024, 19:27
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Originally Posted by Ksw84
Fair point, I have always been the main bread winner so to speak so my wife works PT around my shifts to accommodate childcare, obviously I am aware of the financial implications of joining this program but to say we'd be earning 150k a year within 6 years seems quite ambitious considering the 7 year bond etc. I haven't seen anyone post pay scales so if you have those to hand I'd be very keen to see them.

I wasn't intending my last post ti read that I had a sense of entitlement to benefits, it was merely to highlight that I have never claimed any benefits so have no idea of the process/application
For the guys/gals still awaiting an update, it took them 6 days last year to sort out their changes and invites so hang in there!

I thought the bond was 6 years, but could also be 7. But in the current climate and the cliff edge of retirements coming up you can probably find yourself bidding for a short haul command not long after the bond time is up.

I'm not sure how the Cadet salaries will vary across Mainline / Euroflyer / Cityflyer and I don't believe they've been posted anywhere as its going to be at least a year before the first cadets from the last intake even start getting paid. I'd use the FPP scale here as a guide. https://www.pilotjobsnetwork.com/job...rways_Mainline

Euroflyer on the normal payscales definitely sits on the lower end. Road to command is faster at Cityflyer but you're not on the MSL and it's pretty much the whole recruitment process again to get to Mainline/EF. It's still a long way to go till we're at that stage, but I'd be considering my age and how many flying years I'll have before retirement. I'm probably pushing it for Long Haul command before I retire.

I'm in a similar position where my salary is significantly higher than my other half, who will be going back to work PT after maternity (yes I'm mad applying for this now). After failing out last year I started penny pinching and saving incase this came round again to have a buffer to fall back on or use it to fund modular. I don't know what your ability to squirrel money aside is like, but first intake wouldn't be until January, starting with 10 per intake/month it may be October 2025 before you start (if the planets all align and we get through the process) so you potentially have 16 months from now to build a nest egg to support your family. If funds started to get low then I would be considering the 0% credit card route with a cash advance as a buffer fall back on as VariablePitch recommended.
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Old 20th May 2024, 19:31
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Originally Posted by jsmith98
Anyone's application still unchanged in the BA portal, after today’s updates?
Yeah mine hasn’t changed either. As a 17-year-old applicant (will be 18 in time) I wasn’t even anticipating getting this far so it’s been good to learn what the process is like and getting a bit more faith in myself having been rejected by the TUI assessments.
Best of luck to everyone waiting on a reply!
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Old 20th May 2024, 19:38
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Originally Posted by Flatiron220
Yeah mine hasn’t changed either. As a 17-year-old applicant (will be 18 in time) I wasn’t even anticipating getting this far so it’s been good to learn what the process is like and getting a bit more faith in myself having been rejected by the TUI assessments.
Best of luck to everyone waiting on a reply!
Kudos to you for applying. I met a chap at Skyborne who is currently on the scheme who passed last year and is only 18 year old, so you never know. Very humbling experience considering I'm nearly double his age!
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Old 20th May 2024, 20:08
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Originally Posted by jsmith98
well it’s not over till it’s over…they seem to be working through a process..no emails have been sent yet..and as you know becoming a pilot one needs to be persistent and endure challenges !
Absolutely, very true!!
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Old 20th May 2024, 21:18
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Originally Posted by A320R348
Kudos to you for applying. I met a chap at Skyborne who is currently on the scheme who passed last year and is only 18 year old, so you never know. Very humbling experience considering I'm nearly double his age!
18...what a start to working life!! I'm just over double his age!

I worked as cabin crew for Ryanair back in 07 and remember one day working with a 19 year old FO...it didn't feel right 😅 I was 21 myself.
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Old 20th May 2024, 22:02
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Thanks for the supportive words, this community has been so helpful throughout the whole process!

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18...what a start to working life!! I'm just over double his age!

I worked as cabin crew for Ryanair back in 07 and remember one day working with a 19 year old FO...it didn't feel right 😅 I was 21 myself.
Wow, 19 in the right hand seat! I imagine they'd have gone modular, done PPL and hours whilst still in school? Either that or a very quick hire out of an integrated course…
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Old 20th May 2024, 22:04
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I'm also 17, and my issue is that I start a degree apprenticeship at the beginning of August (which requires me to move out), so I really do need to know as soon as possible in order to cancel my contract with them (if I do get in!!). Anyone know roughly when we'll hear back?
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Old 21st May 2024, 03:55
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Originally Posted by kyrodevv
I'm also 17, and my issue is that I start a degree apprenticeship at the beginning of August (which requires me to move out), so I really do need to know as soon as possible in order to cancel my contract with them (if I do get in!!). Anyone know roughly when we'll hear back?
Watch StephenAV8’s latest video on YouTube with the Speedbird update. There is a full timeline there, with final outcome looking likely to be towards the end of August.
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Old 21st May 2024, 08:42
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Originally Posted by Pilotguy85
Watch StephenAV8’s latest video on YouTube with the Speedbird update. There is a full timeline there, with final outcome looking likely to be towards the end of August.
That last video doesn't really say much and he openly, and repeatedly says it's a guess.
A bit of common sense has to be applied as an assessment centre can't happen w/c 20th May if the notifications haven't been sent out until the 22nd May. Everything will move to the right 1 to 2 weeks (which is what the 20 minute video took to say) - if there are delays in getting notifications from the Flight School assessments, then naturally the BA assessments will also move to the right - if that is delayed, and BA delay announcing the final results then we could go into September!
A bit of a domino effect
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Old 21st May 2024, 09:58
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Originally Posted by chris09
Sadly yes, I am not feeling too confident about the next stage I must admit but ploughing my energy into working out a way to do modular instead!
What do you mean by modular?
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Old 21st May 2024, 10:02
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Originally Posted by TOPS
What do you mean by modular?
The route of attaining an ATPL piece by piece, people work throughout usually, for example getting PPL and then CPL.
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Old 21st May 2024, 10:25
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Originally Posted by Flapjack321
The route of attaining an ATPL piece by piece, people work throughout usually, for example getting PPL and then CPL.
Thanks - is that a cheaper way than going self funded down the BA, or Skyborne or L3Harris route where you need about £100k?
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Old 21st May 2024, 10:38
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No probs. Can be considerably cheaper, folks on this forum have managed circa 50k I believe. Although that is without type rating. There's a lot of info on some threads on this site as well.
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Old 21st May 2024, 10:40
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Originally Posted by TOPS
Thanks - is that a cheaper way than going self funded down the BA, or Skyborne or L3Harris route where you need about £100k?
Yes typically cheaper, but it’s self-funded too. It takes longer as it’s part-time, usually you work in addition to this route.

There’s some threads on here that go into further detail. Last I checked there are 100s of flight schools in the UK that offer this modular route (more strict requirements to offer an integrated route, so not as many places do that).

AFAIK it can be up to 50% cheaper doing the modular route (maybe more maybe less)…it depends on the school and how modern the equipment is as this increases the cost of renting planes for hour building.
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Old 21st May 2024, 13:42
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Emails are out, congratulations to all of those who made it onto the next stage!

Unfortunately didn't make it though this time, but will be applying the next go around with many others I'm sure. I'll be checking the thread to see how you all get on!

Good luck!!
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Old 21st May 2024, 13:45
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Originally Posted by GentleMolasses
Emails are out, congratulations to all of those who made it onto the next stage!

Unfortunately didn't make it though this time, but will be applying the next go around with many others I'm sure. I'll be checking the thread to see how you all get on!

Good luck!!
Waiting patiently for the e-mails to fly through the sky. Nothing landed yet....
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Old 21st May 2024, 13:46
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Originally Posted by GentleMolasses
Emails are out, congratulations to all of those who made it onto the next stage!

Unfortunately didn't make it though this time, but will be applying the next go around with many others I'm sure. I'll be checking the thread to see how you all get on!

Good luck!!
are they????? I’ve received nothing yet
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Old 21st May 2024, 13:46
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Originally Posted by Pilotguy85
Waiting patiently for the e-mails to fly through the sky. Nothing landed yet....
Possibly rejection emails only then? I did not see a change to my application with regards to the assigned flight school, so maybe a good sign if you haven't received anything but see the change on your application?
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rejected again, best of luck folks!
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Old 21st May 2024, 13:47
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Originally Posted by GentleMolasses
Emails are out, congratulations to all of those who made it onto the next stage!

Unfortunately didn't make it though this time, but will be applying the next go around with many others I'm sure. I'll be checking the thread to see how you all get on!

Good luck!!
Did your jobs portal on the BA website change to a named flight school GentleMolasses?
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