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Old 31st Aug 2023, 07:23
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I don't believe this is correct, having been on the calls myself. As others have stated, previous ATPL passes are not acceptable as you would end up with some passes under one "series" (I think that's the term they use) and the remainder under another. This breaks their rule for pilots having passed all the exams in one series.

It's not a question of being "over qualified" and they never mentioned anything about having a maximum number of allowable PPL hours. They stressed that you aren't at a disadvantage if you haven't done PPL, although they recommended doing at least a taster flight if you had never had that experience before.
sorry, so people with ATPL modules are they allowed to apply? Or maybe people with some modules may be fast tracked in the cadet scheme
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Roger that. What you are saying makes sense seen as though this is for an fATPL? Most other cadet schemes are for an MPL, however still require ATPLs to be completed.
MPL just has a different flight training route, theoretical section is the same. You can’t get an airline job without ATPL passes as the minimum requirement is an fATPL. At 1500 hours the MPL more or less just becomes an ATPL anyway
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sorry, so people with ATPL modules are they allowed to apply? Or maybe people with some modules may be fast tracked in the cadet scheme
Absolutely not. You are applying for an integrated training scheme which takes you from zero to hero in one simple step

There are strict rules about numbers of ‘sittings’ and passes etc, as well as the timeline between passing an exam and completing training. If you’ve started down the Modular path then, presumably, you probably have a plan to pay for it. Which isn’t the demographic this scheme seems to be geared towards.
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Old 31st Aug 2023, 20:34
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Does anyone know when the application will go live? Hoping tomorrow can fill out all the necessary info over the weekend and submit on Monday!
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Absolutely not. You are applying for an integrated training scheme which takes you from zero to hero in one simple step

There are strict rules about numbers of ‘sittings’ and passes etc, as well as the timeline between passing an exam and completing training. If you’ve started down the Modular path then, presumably, you probably have a plan to pay for it. Which isn’t the demographic this scheme seems to be geared towards.
agree re. your comment on sittings and timeline, but disagree with your statement on demographic.

With these opportunities comes an element of risk for BA - they need highly skilled competent people who can digest the sheer volume of theory in the ATPLs and pass all flight training exams.

Being a modular student and having some ATPLs under your belt, doesn’t necessarily mean you can and will get to the end goal of funding all the training.
So your assumption is inaccurate. I wouldn’t call a 30k loan a “plan”.
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Originally Posted by FuturePilot_123
agree re. your comment on sittings and timeline, but disagree with your statement on demographic.

With these opportunities comes an element of risk for BA - they need highly skilled competent people who can digest the sheer volume of theory in the ATPLs and pass all flight training exams.

Being a modular student and having some ATPLs under your belt, doesn’t necessarily mean you can and will get to the end goal of funding all the training.
So your assumption is inaccurate. I wouldn’t call a 30k loan a “plan”.
I’m sorry but I disagree. A £30k loan is exactly that, a plan. You plan to take a loan out to finish the training. In the same way that some peoples plan is to take a loan out for an integrated course. Some people don’t have the luxury of being able to just get a £30k loan to pay for flying as they have other commitments, families, mortgage etc - so this scheme is perfectly suited for them. If you have started your ATPL exams then you will be viewed as having a long term plan. Let’s face it, the ATPLs are a hard slog to get through if you don’t think you can finish training!
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Old 31st Aug 2023, 23:30
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Does anyone know when the application will go live? Hoping tomorrow can fill out all the necessary info over the weekend and submit on Monday!
Mind if I ask how your prepping for the application process and further assessment to come?
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I’m sorry but I disagree. A £30k loan is exactly that, a plan. You plan to take a loan out to finish the training. In the same way that some peoples plan is to take a loan out for an integrated course. Some people don’t have the luxury of being able to just get a £30k loan to pay for flying as they have other commitments, families, mortgage etc - so this scheme is perfectly suited for them. If you have started your ATPL exams then you will be viewed as having a long term plan. Let’s face it, the ATPLs are a hard slog to get through if you don’t think you can finish training!
I don’t think the last bit is correct, people who already hold any ATPL modules are deemed as “over qualified” as BA stated this on the live teams call. They are literally taking people with little flying and PPL holders by the looks of things!

I believe people with ATPL modules should be given a chance on this scheme as well.
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Originally Posted by Nino24
I don’t think the last bit is correct, people who already hold any ATPL modules are deemed as “over qualified” as BA stated this on the live teams call. They are literally taking people with little flying and PPL holders by the looks of things!

I believe people with ATPL modules should be given a chance on this scheme as well.
The whole point of the scheme is that it’s to get people into the flight deck who currently wouldn’t be able to. If you have completed ATPLs then they’re going to view you as someone who has an option to get into the flight deck.
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Mind if I ask how your prepping for the application process and further assessment to come?
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Originally Posted by Nino24
I don’t think the last bit is correct, people who already hold any ATPL modules are deemed as “over qualified” as BA stated this on the live teams call. They are literally taking people with little flying and PPL holders by the looks of things!

I believe people with ATPL modules should be given a chance on this scheme as well.
I think you’re still missing the point. The scheme is for people who never even considered the idea of becoming a pilot because of the cost. Idea is presumably to get as diverse a talent pool as they can. Not yet more copy and paste aerospace engineering grads who have always wanted to fly and likely will end up flying regardless of Modular/integrated route.
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Hello all,

Was it mentioned about the pay?

I see the statement that a salary will become available after training.

My question is how are you going to be able to support payments of a mortgage and other bills if you are not being paid from the outset.

Training is going to take roughly 18 months, this is a long time to cover with a loan.

How are others going to support themselves during the training period?
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Old 2nd Sep 2023, 13:07
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Hey guys i have a theory that applications will open on monday since it’s the first monday of the month but who knows lol
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Hey guys i have a theory that applications will open on monday since it’s the first monday of the month but who knows lol
That makes sense.
i just want it to start already so I can start booking sims and medicals haha
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Old 2nd Sep 2023, 22:29
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Can you send it to me please, How I can prepare myself for the interview and assessment?

I hope to hear from you ASAP please

Many thanks
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Can you send it to me please, How I can prepare myself for the interview and assessment?

I hope to hear from you ASAP please

Many thanks

I joined a live YouTube channel yesterday and some resources to use in preparation for the assessments and interviews were shared. I can’t post them here but search Stephen AV8 on YT and check the description section of the live video.
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Can you send it to me please, How I can prepare myself for the interview and assessment?

I hope to hear from you ASAP please

Many thanks
search Stephen AV8 on the most popular search engine
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search Stephen AV8 on the most popular search engine
Thanks Jazz so much for you
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Would’ve thought the application would be open by now!
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