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ATPL Exams under Polish CAA

Old 11th Feb 2019, 08:20
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If it is not blocked, then feel free to use it. BTW - there are few Cassios and other calculators in the box left of entrance. You can use them too if you don't feel like using one in the PC.
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 08:37
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Yeah so my question is, anyone remembers if it is blocked or not
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 12:19
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Talking with some polish guys, they told me that av exam and atpl questions are perfect to prepare one session.
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 14:17
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Hi,

Does anyone know the current price for the ATPL Exams in Poland?
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 21:07
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Actually its changed to 1068 PLN I paid in February so its the most recent price. As for the exams I am using Bristol to learn and Aviation Exam to practice questions.
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Old 20th Feb 2019, 19:16
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I contacted the Polish CAA about the exams and the price above is correct as of yesterday. One thing i though was strange though is you have to pay for all 14 exams at once and cannot do this individually so if you get a resit situation you need to pay for all 14 again when you may only need a couple.
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 13:14
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Originally Posted by phillaw15 View Post
I contacted the Polish CAA about the exams and the price above is correct as of yesterday. One thing i though was strange though is you have to pay for all 14 exams at once and cannot do this individually so if you get a resit situation you need to pay for all 14 again when you may only need a couple.
No, the price includes 2 resits for all subjects
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Old 22nd Feb 2019, 09:55
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Thanks for clarifying as it seemed strange, i guess the CAA explained it wrong.
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Old 22nd Feb 2019, 09:58
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Can any of you guys who have sat the exams in Poland advise which is the best EASA QB to prepare?
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Old 13th Mar 2019, 12:58
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I have just started, first I did General Navigation so question bank was just to be sure I know how to calculate everything. No point learning the numbers in the questions so I do not know how much unknown questions there was but the system got stuck 4 times so I lost like 3 minutes on this. And no pre printed map was useful for chart questions so I had to wait for the exam supervisors to get me the proper maps printed. I took another 5 minutes. So had too little time for the exam and it all ended with just 85 % (but passed is passed ).

As for the next easier exams I did comms VFR and IFR its easy either way but I noticed that more than 25 % of the questions were new absolutely not like in Aviation Exam (happily its easy so got 95,83 % on both either way). And Bristol is good to learn the stuff but their questions look like self-made (or maybe people get such questions in the UK I do not know) and nothing like the real questions in Poland. So now I am gonna buy atpl question and do their questions too since many people said their questions are more similar to the EASA ones. Since I would prefer not getting so many unknown questions on some harder exams that require memorizing and not calculating like gen nav, planning, performance or mass and balance.

PS. Just started ATPL questions, found out they got like 2 questions in their bank from the new ones I got on my exams. When training for human performance I noticed they miss a lot of anatomy questions that Aviation Exam got, are those questions removed or reduced and I just didn't get the info about it or is it just a lacking data bank. But maybe combining Aviation Exam and ATPL questions its possible to get 75 % known questions on the exam.

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Old 14th Mar 2019, 18:44
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Hey Tony, I'm sorry for the late answer, but I'm checking this forum randomly and forgot to set the email notifications.
Regarding the exams I'm about to start In few months, what about your first attempt? Can you let us know how were the questions and if Aviation exam is enough? Thank you so much and best of Luck!!

KT1988 could you explain in details how it was helpful studying GNAV for you from aviation exam? Was it enough for Polish caa exams?

Thank you!
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Old 14th Mar 2019, 22:16
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@WingMan1903: As for the General Navigation I learned the stuff from Bristol and Aviation Exam was helpful cause they had a lot of questions unknown to me where I could test my knowledge and see if I do the stuff correctly. Plus of course those very few theoretical questions were helpful especially to learn how the question creators are sometimes trying to trick you when in a hurry wanting to answer quickly to have more time for calculations. There are also some old questions that can appear still on real exams that are seriously tricky for example you get a VOR no radial and you are asked which other VOR is 185 NM away. If you make a circle of 185 NM a very accurate one like Aviation Exam explainers did it hits 3 of the VORs so you will not do it more accurate on the timed exam..... so knowing its KIRKWALL can help in case you draw one of those old questions. The new ones are probably more quality checked and not created just to make you get a wrong answer (without your fault in it).

The thing you must be aware of is that you will use a lot of more time than doing exam with 60 questions in Aviation Exam. Cause I did them in like 1 h 45 min. In the real exam your PC may hang up for like 30 secs on some questions losing 2 mins for you, then you need to get the attachments from the exam supervisors and it can take many precious minutes. Then from human factors we know that excessive stress cause performance to deteriorate. So due to those reasons I had to guess the last 4 questions (ofc. wrong guess) and received 85 % if I did not calculate almost all the rest of the stuff correctly it could have been a failure. Maybe without losing time on the PC and charts the result would be over 90 % like I hope to achieve as average from the 14 exams. But now a days probably a first time pass is hopefully good enough to get invited by the airlines for interviews.
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Old 15th Mar 2019, 17:40
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Hey MT 1988, first of all I wanted to thank you for the very good detailed informations and if you donít mind I might ask you more questions.
How much aviation exam helped you? Because Iím gonna use that one and you said that after Bristol thanks to Aviation exam you were able to answer to many questions. Like I would like to know how many differents and new questions (that werenít present in Aviation exam)have you found at the official exam of Human and GNAV?
Regarding the time that you have lost because of your fault thatís sucks a bit because itís always better to have 2 hours and use it fully, they can simply give as a manual with all the charts and other papers.
Do we have to bring our Jappesen manual or they will provide it to us?

Thanks a lot
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Old 17th Mar 2019, 02:39
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@WingMan1903: As for Aviation Exam in General Navigation it helped me in the way that I could practice questions with calculations that were not in the Bristol question bank. I did not memorize the questions from Aviation Exam cause its pointless in subjects where you can calculate the answers and its very easy for EASA to change the numbers each year so the answers will be different. But training with Aviation Exam helped me to solve the calculations much quicker and be sure that I do it in the correct way.

As for subjects where you actually can remember questions from your training cause they ask about information and not to calculate then for VFR and IFR comms there was about 30 % unknown questions but they were easy and similar to those in Aviation Exam so it went well. As for Human Performance I trained with both AviationExam and Atpl question and when I got my questions there were about 75 % or 80 % known questions so I passed the exam with ease. But it was maybe just good luck, since if you have perfect luck you can actually draw 100 % known questions since the old questions are still used for the exams together with the new ones.

As for jeppesen manual I have not used it to train since Aviation Exam give you pictures of charts for the plotting questions. At the exam you are not allowed to bring your own charts so you have to use those that the have printed already or if your question ask you about a different chart you have to ask them to print it for you when you check the attachment and see what chart you need.

Right now I am re-reading Bristol theory about Radio Navigation and then doing the questions in Aviation Exam and ATPL question to see what I already understand and what to work more with or memorize better. I plan to pass Radio Navigation, Instruments, Operational Procedures and Air Law in the April session (my second one). Then I believe most work will be required for Principles of Flight, Flight Planning and Monitoring, Performance + Mass and Balance which I will do in May and finish with Airframes and Systems + Meteorology in June. So all will be done in 4 sessions, and in case something extraordinary happens (I hope not) I got 2 spare sessions left.

Good luck with your Exams!
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Old 20th Mar 2019, 17:46
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KT1988 Thank you again. Yeah you are right, mostly of the cases we need luck, depends sometimes we find all new questions and sometimes just old ones.
Anyway what are you reading exactly in Bristol? You are doing questions or just reading the explanation? I can admit that Aviation Exam is much better regarding the calculations and theory.
And also, how do you manage to do the exams In April, May and June? Because sometimes I'm so worried to start that I would take more time for reviewing especially with the starting of the most difficult subjects.
So I will not bring any Jeppesen Manual because as you said It's forbidden to bring yours, but I might need it for Flight Planning because sometimes from the pictures of Aviation Exams takes a bit of longer time.
I wanted to also ask, how many subjects you can attempt per day? And if I remember correctly when I spoke with CAA there are 8 days in total per month (From Tuesday till Friday) for both weeks, am I right?

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Old 20th Mar 2019, 21:17
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I am reading the theory stuff in Bristol on ATP digital everyone at our school got one and we had to pass all progress tests etc. to be allowed to take the exams. Its a lot of good theory there explaining how to calculate different things.

As for doing the exams you are allowed to pass as many as you manage each day, but I do not advise passing more than one except the comms since they are easy. The new thing is that you have to reserve for May and June or risk not being let in on an exam since they made a new system of reservation of examinations. But you can actually reserve and resign if you do not feel ready no one will force you to start your exam.

As for doing my exams I sit 14/7 each day and learn stuff ofc if I do not get 100 % on every try in aviation exam, bristol and atpl questions I will not start my 2nd session (In the first one I did General Navi, 2x comms and Human Performance). My plan is Radio Navigation, Instruments, Operational Procedures and Air Law in April, Principles of Flight, Planning, Performance and Mass and Balance in May, Airframes and systems + Meteorology in June. And 2 sessions in reserve just in case (plus eventually time in June to do an extra exam).

You do not have to worry cause if you start one session you do not have to do the next session in next month you got 18 months to pass everything. I try to do it quickly because if I manage to get done quickly I will be able to get all my licenses this year (MEP(L), ME/IR, CPL + FI ). But ofc. its more important to get first time passes so I will not go if I am not sure that I will pass. So then it will take more time if necessary. Just remember everyone learns theory in their own pace so everyone have to consider their own pace, since only you know how fast you can learn.
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Old 21st Mar 2019, 08:54
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Guys, just be advised, that there have been some massive changes in queue and registration system for exams. Check announcements on CAA site.
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 17:42
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As I spoke with my friends taking exams today, Poland may have started to ask brand new questions in GNav and Flight Planning. Almost 10%. So try to study from couple dbs or more if you can.
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 21:55
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Hi,
Can anyone help me with the question banks for the ATPL exams, please?

Thanks.
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Old 3rd Apr 2019, 09:57
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Just a little feedback about the new system of reservations, I went on Tuesday for my 5th exam radio navigation. I was there about 10:00 and got place 54 on the without reservation list. Got in for my exam before 13:00, as for the exam itself I was extremly lucky to get about 80 % questions from the question bank so it ended with 95,59 % and the chance of over 90 % average is still there for me (at least before doing principles of flight, performance etc.). As for other exams I was doing General Navigation in March and the only problem was little time due to the system freezing and having to get the charts printed (the pre printed ones were not asked about) passed it with only 85 % but had to just click the last questions and did not have luck on my side.

If you are training for general navi well then remembering everything from the questionbank is not the good way. Its good to remember stuff like the question where EASA wants you to answer that the sun is going around the earth (its against logic and even knowing what they want you to answer you feel like its wrong) but the calculations should be learned its much, much, much easier than remembering numbers for 1000 questions and you will pass no matter what they ask about if you know how to calculate it. As for planning I planned it for May so I can not say much about it.

Tomorrow I will go for Instruments its a day without reservation so I am afraid the queue may be longer than on days with reservations. Cause until now both days with reservations were the ones with easiest access and no need to stand in a queue after you write down your name you can just sit down and click retrain some tricky questions on the phone while waiting. Or just relax and try to remove excessive stress since it worsens performance as we know from human performance exam

PS. Some more feedback: On the day without reservation I got there like 10:30 it was only a very short queue for the exam so it went smoothly no more than 1 hour waiting. As for the Instrumentation exam the amount of known questions was still decent around 70-75 % questions from question banks. And not a single one of the strange (outside of syllabus or with confusing text) questions from Aviation Exam that were supposed to be retired so maybe the CAA really removed them (funny thing is that most people still learn them just in case). Result I got was 90 % (so the dream of over 90 % average is still alive). One of the different/new questions was strange since it was an RA red square at the same level without any arrows indicating any movement of it so I answered according to the attachment..... and it was wrong I dunno why since they did not inform what is the correct answer. But I did not bother to do anything since pass is pass and I can live with 90 %

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