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ATPL Exams under Polish CAA

Old 20th Mar 2019, 21:17
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I am reading the theory stuff in Bristol on ATP digital everyone at our school got one and we had to pass all progress tests etc. to be allowed to take the exams. Its a lot of good theory there explaining how to calculate different things.

As for doing the exams you are allowed to pass as many as you manage each day, but I do not advise passing more than one except the comms since they are easy. The new thing is that you have to reserve for May and June or risk not being let in on an exam since they made a new system of reservation of examinations. But you can actually reserve and resign if you do not feel ready no one will force you to start your exam.

As for doing my exams I sit 14/7 each day and learn stuff ofc if I do not get 100 % on every try in aviation exam, bristol and atpl questions I will not start my 2nd session (In the first one I did General Navi, 2x comms and Human Performance). My plan is Radio Navigation, Instruments, Operational Procedures and Air Law in April, Principles of Flight, Planning, Performance and Mass and Balance in May, Airframes and systems + Meteorology in June. And 2 sessions in reserve just in case (plus eventually time in June to do an extra exam).

You do not have to worry cause if you start one session you do not have to do the next session in next month you got 18 months to pass everything. I try to do it quickly because if I manage to get done quickly I will be able to get all my licenses this year (MEP(L), ME/IR, CPL + FI ). But ofc. its more important to get first time passes so I will not go if I am not sure that I will pass. So then it will take more time if necessary. Just remember everyone learns theory in their own pace so everyone have to consider their own pace, since only you know how fast you can learn.
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Old 21st Mar 2019, 08:54
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Guys, just be advised, that there have been some massive changes in queue and registration system for exams. Check announcements on CAA site.
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 17:42
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As I spoke with my friends taking exams today, Poland may have started to ask brand new questions in GNav and Flight Planning. Almost 10%. So try to study from couple dbs or more if you can.
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 21:55
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Hi,
Can anyone help me with the question banks for the ATPL exams, please?

Thanks.
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Old 3rd Apr 2019, 09:57
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Just a little feedback about the new system of reservations, I went on Tuesday for my 5th exam radio navigation. I was there about 10:00 and got place 54 on the without reservation list. Got in for my exam before 13:00, as for the exam itself I was extremly lucky to get about 80 % questions from the question bank so it ended with 95,59 % and the chance of over 90 % average is still there for me (at least before doing principles of flight, performance etc.). As for other exams I was doing General Navigation in March and the only problem was little time due to the system freezing and having to get the charts printed (the pre printed ones were not asked about) passed it with only 85 % but had to just click the last questions and did not have luck on my side.

If you are training for general navi well then remembering everything from the questionbank is not the good way. Its good to remember stuff like the question where EASA wants you to answer that the sun is going around the earth (its against logic and even knowing what they want you to answer you feel like its wrong) but the calculations should be learned its much, much, much easier than remembering numbers for 1000 questions and you will pass no matter what they ask about if you know how to calculate it. As for planning I planned it for May so I can not say much about it.

Tomorrow I will go for Instruments its a day without reservation so I am afraid the queue may be longer than on days with reservations. Cause until now both days with reservations were the ones with easiest access and no need to stand in a queue after you write down your name you can just sit down and click retrain some tricky questions on the phone while waiting. Or just relax and try to remove excessive stress since it worsens performance as we know from human performance exam

PS. Some more feedback: On the day without reservation I got there like 10:30 it was only a very short queue for the exam so it went smoothly no more than 1 hour waiting. As for the Instrumentation exam the amount of known questions was still decent around 70-75 % questions from question banks. And not a single one of the strange (outside of syllabus or with confusing text) questions from Aviation Exam that were supposed to be retired so maybe the CAA really removed them (funny thing is that most people still learn them just in case). Result I got was 90 % (so the dream of over 90 % average is still alive). One of the different/new questions was strange since it was an RA red square at the same level without any arrows indicating any movement of it so I answered according to the attachment..... and it was wrong I dunno why since they did not inform what is the correct answer. But I did not bother to do anything since pass is pass and I can live with 90 %

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Old 6th Apr 2019, 06:52
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Hi,

Thanks for the reply. I already hold an ATPL from another country. Looking for question bank if anyone can share.
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Old 8th Apr 2019, 14:58
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KT1988 Hello KT1988, thank you for updates as always really useful
I'm happy to hear that you are passing the exams with a good score, that's really the goal for all of us here sitting and learning everyday
Regarding Radionav and Instrument is not bad that there were almost the 75%/ 80 % of the question bank, and I have some more question to ask you; You were saying that in instrumentation there weren't the strange ones from Aviation Exam or that the CAA removed them, what does that mean?
And also you were saying that in Atpl Questions regarging Human performance was explained better in Aviation Exam, I really don't know if I should use also ATPL questions database or stay just with Aviation Exam, or maybe buying also the membership of Atpl questions and study first in ATPL questions an then move with the same subject in Aviation exam but you know it takes a lot of time.
I just know that AViation Exam explain the topics really good but it's a really slow database regarding the updating of the new questions (they update new questions once every 4-5 months). And also, are you all studying from Aviation Exam in standard mode level or in Exhaustive level?
Thank you in advance and I wish you good luck with the rest of the exams in this session, please let us know how was your experience!
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Old 8th Apr 2019, 17:27
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@Wingman1903: As I said its all pure luck what you get, today I had my Operational Procedures Exam. Did like 100 % in all 3 questionbanks (Aviation Exam, Atpl questions and Bristol) and passed exam with only 85 % and like 40 % unknown questions. While everyone else said its like the question banks so its luck what you draw. I got no questions about CAT I, CAT II, CAT III, nothing about RVR, nothing about hydroplaning etc. one question about extinguishers while question banks got a lot, one question about distance between aircraft on approach nothing about takeoff etc. Absolutely no one of the gyro or polar chart questions that took a lot of work to learn to solve. There were many questions about anti-ice and de-ice but different from the ones in question bank, and one question about T9 track I answered it was north-south south-north one and the one with lesser requirements for navigation equipment but obviously it was wrong and the exam did not tell me what was the correct answer. Got also some questions about NAT that were different from question banks and one new but pretty nice one about why and where aircraft can get ice after landing in a warm environment it was a good one I solved nicely but not included in any question bank.

So learn stuff and think questionbank will definitely not save you if you are unlucky on some exam, I passed with 85 % I am not very satisfied but pass is a pass and still the average is a tiny bit above 90 % so the dream lives on about not only first time pass but an average that will look nice to the airlines.

As for instrumentations stuff like single phase AC generator and other confusing questions where you can read in the comments a comment from AviationExam that it have been removed it has probably really been removed. Or maybe I did not see those questions on my exams.

PS. As for learning I feel the real questions are a little bit more like atpl questions than Aviation Exam but not everything. So what I do is: learn from bristol groundschool (we got one with bristol questionbank for 1 year from our school as part of the 0-ATPL + FI) then work with atpl questions question bank and after I get 100 % on exam tests on atpl questions I move over to Aviation Exam exhaustive database and do exams to see if I know enough to manage unknown questions and work there until I get close to 100 %. Then I do some times bristol groundschool exam questions since they are so different and I see if I also get passes all the time there to see if I can manage new and strange questions. Its my way of doing it but I understand not everyone want to buy all the questionbanks and work so much with it. I do cause I want to be sure I can manage it on the exams, we only got one chance to get first time pass and a decent result to show to the airlines. And the airlines will not know what we do really know before the technical interview....so those results may do the difference between who is getting the interview. So I sit and work as much as I can.

On Friday I will see how Air Law will go if I manage it then it will be 8 in 2 sessions. So I hope I will get done in 4 sessions until June (unless in the mean time there will be a Nordica assessment for airline job guarantee program at our school (for PPL(A) (with time build) pilots the rest of the training MEP(L) IR/ME, CPL will be done according to what Nordica want (then I will have to train for that instead ) which will mean I will probably get all my licenses this year. But I do not know when the assessments will take place so currently I just plan to get done as fast and good as possible with the ATPL(A) theory.
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Old 8th Apr 2019, 17:46
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about to start studying my atpl. which question bank would be most similar to the polish one ?
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Old 8th Apr 2019, 21:47
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As I said there is no "best question bank" for everything. What I can say is that Atpl questions and Aviation Exam are the most realistic ones, while Bristol got a great theory e-learning course in the ATPL groundschool but their questionbank is only good to train how you do with unknown questions after having previously trained in the other 2 questionbanks. I advise to train with both questionbanks since its not even a mentionable cost compared to the cost of the flight training in total.
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Old 11th Apr 2019, 20:12
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KT1988 Perfect thank you for everything! I wish you good luck for Air Law (tomorrow) and please let us know how it went.
I got everything and nowadays unfortunately we have to use more databases because we can’t expect what is gonna be at the official exams, I was in doubt if to start at the polish CAA or at the Slovakian one, I don’t know which one work better and which one has more questions like database, but since is EASA that is keeping sending new questions at the CAA’s then it’s almost the same everywhere, correct me if I’m saying wrong.

Thank tou again mate and best of luck, hopefully you’ll pass also Air Law
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Old 12th Apr 2019, 14:39
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@WingMan1903: As for the Air Law the draw was pretty ok almost everything from the questionbanks so this time more luck than with Operational Procedures. But the result I got was 91 % since I messed something with the numbers for radar separation between parallell runways and holding area. Said it was 5 NM while it was 3 NM probably. I remember words pretty well and stuff like MDA/H, DA/H, CAT etc. itd. But numbers are hard to remember when you cannot learn to calculate them like in calculation subjects. And in Air Law you just to need to remember the number as the answer. But 91 % is ok I can live with it the average is still over 90 % after 8 exams. But the worst will be in May with Performance and Planning where you sometimes have to guess like people say because when you draw on the chart its so inaccurate that 2 answers are too close to each other. But it have to be possible somehow since people are passing it.

Now I am starting with Principles of Flight. Planned: Principles of Flight, Performance, Mass&Balance and Planning for May session. Then for June there will be only airframes and meteorology exams left for dessert.
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