I feel like the luckiest person alive
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Best of luck to you Blackknight.
Ignore those one or two hostile jealous responses. We all know that if any wannabee had been given the opportunity you have just been given, they would take it without question.
By the way, same question as Rich Tea, where do you think you'll be off to?
Do 'em proud mate.
- BillyFish2
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Ignore those one or two hostile jealous responses. We all know that if any wannabee had been given the opportunity you have just been given, they would take it without question.
By the way, same question as Rich Tea, where do you think you'll be off to?
Do 'em proud mate.
- BillyFish2
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From: london
Whirlybird,
I didn't say I was right, it is just MY opinion.
In the current climate blagging 45K from your parents to do an ATPL, in MY opinion is the wrong thing to do. NO jobs, stale market, pilots being laid off. Perhaps when the market picks up it may be time to scr*w mum and dad for their life savings, but until then MY opinion remains:
Little Timmy = Spoilt B*stard!!
But then again I'll take a Big Mac and fries after your ATPL course...
'Hovering is for poofties!'
I didn't say I was right, it is just MY opinion.
In the current climate blagging 45K from your parents to do an ATPL, in MY opinion is the wrong thing to do. NO jobs, stale market, pilots being laid off. Perhaps when the market picks up it may be time to scr*w mum and dad for their life savings, but until then MY opinion remains:
Little Timmy = Spoilt B*stard!!
But then again I'll take a Big Mac and fries after your ATPL course...
'Hovering is for poofties!'
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From: England
Crash barrier seems to have a problem. I read on your profile you work in air traffic. Some things can be explained so easily.
Maybe your parents couldn't afford 45 grand but mine and many others in this country can and many people regard this sort of money as peanuts. Kindly keep your mouth shut.
Maybe your parents couldn't afford 45 grand but mine and many others in this country can and many people regard this sort of money as peanuts. Kindly keep your mouth shut.
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Crash Barrier, i wasn't under the impression we were being assessed on the quality of the posts which we publish on here, most people are merely trying to put a point across and as such are not as pedantic as you appear to be. As regards to your 'Timmy' jibes, that is something I resent. My parents come from working class backgrounds and have had to work very hard to get where they are today. And I personally cannot thank them enough for giving me the means to sponsor myself through an ATPL course. I just hope i can do the same to my children one day. And in answer to the people asking where i am hoping to go....Its Jerez for me, although not 100%sure when yet. And finally as for everyones comments on the job market etc beiong stale. my outlook is simply: "if you havent got a license you cant apply for the job". Although im sure there will be some sarcastic remarks about money made from this too!!
At the end of the day we are all playing cricket for the same team,its just some of us are using different bats to score the runs.
Keep smiling
BK
At the end of the day we are all playing cricket for the same team,its just some of us are using different bats to score the runs.
Keep smiling
BK
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I have seen over a number of years that people who have had to work hard in other jobs for a few years saving to pay for their flight training seem to be more dedicated, keen and eager to succeed in their airline jobs. This is not wasted on some hirers.
Just an observation from personal experience, and as with all things, there are many exceptions.
Good luck and invest your money wisely, and as somebody else said above - it might be best to keep your good fortune to yourself.
Just an observation from personal experience, and as with all things, there are many exceptions.
Good luck and invest your money wisely, and as somebody else said above - it might be best to keep your good fortune to yourself.
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From: london
quote Blackknight " my parents have just given me a cheque for £45,000, no strings, they dont want paying back or anything!"
Blatant snobbery, what a complete spoilt b*stard you are !
Your next post no doubt will be "Mummy has just bought me a type rating, oohh I am sooo lucky !"
Vomits, and leaves....
Blatant snobbery, what a complete spoilt b*stard you are !
Your next post no doubt will be "Mummy has just bought me a type rating, oohh I am sooo lucky !"
Vomits, and leaves....
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From: London
>Crash barrier seems to have a problem. I read on your profile you work in air traffic. Some things can be explained so easily.
Greaser - CB has a problem, however don't put ATCOs down - if you make it as a pilot then fair play, but they work a million times harder than any pilot!
Greaser - CB has a problem, however don't put ATCOs down - if you make it as a pilot then fair play, but they work a million times harder than any pilot!
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From: STN
so right Kirstey,
heres another point;
if it was a lottery winner saying I'm doing an ATPL course, most would say well done go for it, but hey, whats the difference where the cash comes from; give blackknight a break,
its tough enough to pass the course without
having a go at him just because his folks put up the cash,
hang up your axe's & all be friends.
Flying, the art of over coming gravity ;-)
heres another point;
if it was a lottery winner saying I'm doing an ATPL course, most would say well done go for it, but hey, whats the difference where the cash comes from; give blackknight a break,
its tough enough to pass the course without
having a go at him just because his folks put up the cash,
hang up your axe's & all be friends.
Flying, the art of over coming gravity ;-)
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From: Glasgow
I think the point some people have been trying to make is that, fair enough, you've been given 45K, no strings attached, but do you really have to rub it in that you've been luckier than most people are? 
I admit, I'm really envious of those who are lucky enough to be in this position, but if I was in their place, the last thing I would want to do would be to bragg about it to other less fortunate wannabes.
I admit, I'm really envious of those who are lucky enough to be in this position, but if I was in their place, the last thing I would want to do would be to bragg about it to other less fortunate wannabes.
The Original Whirly
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Hob78 and Kraken,
So, you can't take it if someone tells you they've been lucky. Well, shall we carry that to its logical conclusion. Wannabes, you'd better stop posting if you're natural pilots or have a good instructor and get your PPLs in 45 hours, because those of us who take longer might feel jealous. If you pass all your ATPL ground exams first go, keep it to yourselves; it's real hard to take for those of us struggling with resits. And we really really don't want to hear about that jet job you just got; it only shows us what a hard time we're having.
Well, you guys said it; I didn't. If you can't cope with others' good fortune, maybe you'd better stop reading wannabes. On second thoughts, maybe you'd better go and live on a desert island. At least until you can manage to GROW UP!!!
So, you can't take it if someone tells you they've been lucky. Well, shall we carry that to its logical conclusion. Wannabes, you'd better stop posting if you're natural pilots or have a good instructor and get your PPLs in 45 hours, because those of us who take longer might feel jealous. If you pass all your ATPL ground exams first go, keep it to yourselves; it's real hard to take for those of us struggling with resits. And we really really don't want to hear about that jet job you just got; it only shows us what a hard time we're having.
Well, you guys said it; I didn't. If you can't cope with others' good fortune, maybe you'd better stop reading wannabes. On second thoughts, maybe you'd better go and live on a desert island. At least until you can manage to GROW UP!!!
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Crash, stop being a tw*t. Blacknight et al have been very lucky, but getting the money to pay for a course is only a very small part of the game.
I would have loved to have been in their position, but I wasn't. Does that mean I hold a grudge? No, of course not. At the end of the day, we all do something we love (must do I suppose?).
I would much rather one of them as my FO than a jealous weasel like yourself. I might allow you to drive the honey wagon though. Sort your attitude out or you'll stay tin pushing for alot longer and never experience the utter joy of the other side of an "ATC delay".
It's odd, I usually never have a problem with anyone in ATC, I guess he(?) is just bringing the best out in me!
I would have loved to have been in their position, but I wasn't. Does that mean I hold a grudge? No, of course not. At the end of the day, we all do something we love (must do I suppose?).
I would much rather one of them as my FO than a jealous weasel like yourself. I might allow you to drive the honey wagon though. Sort your attitude out or you'll stay tin pushing for alot longer and never experience the utter joy of the other side of an "ATC delay".
It's odd, I usually never have a problem with anyone in ATC, I guess he(?) is just bringing the best out in me!
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Ummm...Before we start having a go at ATCers (a very good bunch of gals and guys)... I have a strong suspicion that CB probably does not even know how to spell 'radar', let alone operate one.
Probably a 13 year old with too much time on his hands - he certainly comes across that way.
Cheers!
Busta
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Probably a 13 year old with too much time on his hands - he certainly comes across that way.
Cheers!
Busta
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Busta,
I'm not having rant at ATC, they are indeed in general a fine bunch of people. I think you are probably right about CB and as per usual I've managed to jump the gun, apologies if I caused any offence.(Except to CB of course...)
As most Pilots out there will probably agree, the excuse to the SLF of an ATC delay is usually a work of fiction, meant to deflect any bad feeling, because it can't be our fault!!!
I'm not having rant at ATC, they are indeed in general a fine bunch of people. I think you are probably right about CB and as per usual I've managed to jump the gun, apologies if I caused any offence.(Except to CB of course...)
As most Pilots out there will probably agree, the excuse to the SLF of an ATC delay is usually a work of fiction, meant to deflect any bad feeling, because it can't be our fault!!!
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What a stupid bloody thread. ( or follow ups anyway)
Good on blacknights parents. I’m sure they have made huge sacrifices to help him along his chosen career path, so what in hell’s name is wrong with that? Most parents would do the same given the chance.
Lets face it, if they were to finance 4 years of some irrelevant Uni course together with accommodation, drinking money etc there would not be much change out of £40k.
At least this way their cherished offspring has a chance to do what his heart is in.
As for crash…do you really think he is a fully blown ATC??…I think not,… more like a failed ex mil from previous posts. Lets not do ATC’s an injustice here over the rantings of a very ..very jealous and sad failure!
Good on blacknights parents. I’m sure they have made huge sacrifices to help him along his chosen career path, so what in hell’s name is wrong with that? Most parents would do the same given the chance.
Lets face it, if they were to finance 4 years of some irrelevant Uni course together with accommodation, drinking money etc there would not be much change out of £40k.
At least this way their cherished offspring has a chance to do what his heart is in.
As for crash…do you really think he is a fully blown ATC??…I think not,… more like a failed ex mil from previous posts. Lets not do ATC’s an injustice here over the rantings of a very ..very jealous and sad failure!
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Yeah okay,
So this fortunate person has been on the receiving end of a fair amount of cash.
Who said blckknight's folks were loaded, maybe they re-mortgaged the house, passed on some inherited money, or got a loan to see their child live their dream.
Get a life folks................
Regards
Fra
So this fortunate person has been on the receiving end of a fair amount of cash.
Who said blckknight's folks were loaded, maybe they re-mortgaged the house, passed on some inherited money, or got a loan to see their child live their dream.
Get a life folks................
Regards
Fra