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Cash Barrier,
There is a very long scale on which you should consider things. Clearly you are behind Timmy in that your parents did/could not fund your ATPL. My position is that I was offered a part sponsorship but had to turn it down because my parents couldn't even provide a financial guarantee to the sponsoring airline, let alone pay for my training. I'm 25 years old and $2000 in debt from paying for class one medicals and aptitude tests at various airlines. I've realised that given the current state of the market I will be too old for most sponsorships when they start up again. I also know that most if not all banks would not lend me 50k to sponsor myself without a financial guarantor. I felt quite sorry for myself as all of these realities became clear to me, and Timmies really got on my nerves!
But now let us consider the people living in Afganistan or any of the other deprived country such as Iraq or Kosovo. Some of those people may have wanted to become airline pilots too. What do you reckon their chances are? Do you think we should count our blessings or continue to feel sorry for ourselves? I think we should count our blessings and realise that in the overall scheme of things, Timmy, you and I are all in a very very fortunate position indeed.
All the best
There is a very long scale on which you should consider things. Clearly you are behind Timmy in that your parents did/could not fund your ATPL. My position is that I was offered a part sponsorship but had to turn it down because my parents couldn't even provide a financial guarantee to the sponsoring airline, let alone pay for my training. I'm 25 years old and $2000 in debt from paying for class one medicals and aptitude tests at various airlines. I've realised that given the current state of the market I will be too old for most sponsorships when they start up again. I also know that most if not all banks would not lend me 50k to sponsor myself without a financial guarantor. I felt quite sorry for myself as all of these realities became clear to me, and Timmies really got on my nerves!
But now let us consider the people living in Afganistan or any of the other deprived country such as Iraq or Kosovo. Some of those people may have wanted to become airline pilots too. What do you reckon their chances are? Do you think we should count our blessings or continue to feel sorry for ourselves? I think we should count our blessings and realise that in the overall scheme of things, Timmy, you and I are all in a very very fortunate position indeed.
All the best
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It's excellent - like other people have said, most parents would do anything for their children if they could.
Just a word of advice guys, when you come to your first post-qualifying interview - maybe even with me! - just have some good answers for why you always wanted to go into aviation.
"It was just something I always wanted to do" - it was never a good enough reason as far as I was concerned me and it won't be in the future either...
Enjoy it - it's a year of hard work and great flying.
Just a word of advice guys, when you come to your first post-qualifying interview - maybe even with me! - just have some good answers for why you always wanted to go into aviation.
"It was just something I always wanted to do" - it was never a good enough reason as far as I was concerned me and it won't be in the future either...
Enjoy it - it's a year of hard work and great flying.
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And on that note i believe we should have this post ended here. As it seems to be doing nothing more than stirring up a hornets nest of all sorts of differing emotions. Apologies to anyone i have offended i just thought i would tell someone how overjoyed i was at being given the opportunity to hopefully gain my ATPL.
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Somebody wants to share good news with colleagues and friends and look what happens. I've just learned something about people. So have you probably, blacknight. Good luck in the future mate!
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Blackknight, I've just got back from a few days away to find this post - just wanted to say I'm glad everything's turning out well for you. I'm sure you'll have a teriffic time in Jerez 
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""Well, there's always one. And I knew what country he came from without even looking""
whirlybird you welsh tw@t , I have to read your righteous prose on human ethics and moral standard and then you commit ultimate blasphemy by stereotyping and infering that being from the greatest country in the UK is somewhat derrogative? Get back to your feilds and dolly i'm sure she is missing you.
crash barrier , nice to see someone else can see a the second side of the coin
PingPong you sad muppet if you wish to check my spelling and grammar please feel free , however its only your time ur wasting ! get a life , fly a plane.
easy now!
whirlybird you welsh tw@t , I have to read your righteous prose on human ethics and moral standard and then you commit ultimate blasphemy by stereotyping and infering that being from the greatest country in the UK is somewhat derrogative? Get back to your feilds and dolly i'm sure she is missing you.
crash barrier , nice to see someone else can see a the second side of the coin
PingPong you sad muppet if you wish to check my spelling and grammar please feel free , however its only your time ur wasting ! get a life , fly a plane.
easy now!
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Congratulations to Duncan2 for the best posting on this thread.
I like many here sometimes think about the mountain that I have to climb, the debts mounting up and the odds stacked against me. My eyesight is poor and as a result I was never able to try for a 6th form scholarship or join my University Air Squadron, sometimes I feel a little jealous of those who have been given opportunities that fate deprived me of. This is an entirely human emotion and I do not let it cloud my opinions of others.
At times when I feel like this I, like Duncan2 give some thought to people in other countries, the sort of countries where kids gazing at the vapour trails crossing overhead will never be given the opportunity to fulfill their dreams, sure this guy, got a lucky break, life is not fair, but a lot of us still have a chance to fly for a living and that puts us streets ahead of most of the worlds population. A bit of perspective would not go amiss.
Cheers all and happy flying. If this post reads like some pseudo religious babble then please be assured that was not the spirit in which it was intended and disregard my last.
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I like many here sometimes think about the mountain that I have to climb, the debts mounting up and the odds stacked against me. My eyesight is poor and as a result I was never able to try for a 6th form scholarship or join my University Air Squadron, sometimes I feel a little jealous of those who have been given opportunities that fate deprived me of. This is an entirely human emotion and I do not let it cloud my opinions of others.
At times when I feel like this I, like Duncan2 give some thought to people in other countries, the sort of countries where kids gazing at the vapour trails crossing overhead will never be given the opportunity to fulfill their dreams, sure this guy, got a lucky break, life is not fair, but a lot of us still have a chance to fly for a living and that puts us streets ahead of most of the worlds population. A bit of perspective would not go amiss.
Cheers all and happy flying. If this post reads like some pseudo religious babble then please be assured that was not the spirit in which it was intended and disregard my last.
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You're right not to worry about your inability to spell. Your inability to disagree without being thoroughly offensive is much more likely to reveal your lack of intelligence, and will be of far greater concern to a potential employer.
Calling a lady a "tw@t" may be acceptable in (some) playgrounds, but is certainly not acceptable behaviour amongst professional pilots.
Having spent my career with BA and, more recently, Virgin, I can assure you that leading airlines don't tend to hire people who are, or behave like, yobs - as you and your kindred spirit Crash Barrier will find out to your cost unless you mature.
Being well-balanced doesn't mean having a chip on each shoulder. But, of course, you don't need my advice - you know it all already.
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You're right not to worry about your inability to spell. Your inability to disagree without being thoroughly offensive is much more likely to reveal your lack of intelligence, and will be of far greater concern to a potential employer.
Calling a lady a "tw@t" may be acceptable in (some) playgrounds, but is certainly not acceptable behaviour amongst professional pilots.
Having spent my career with BA and, more recently, Virgin, I can assure you that leading airlines don't tend to hire people who are, or behave like, yobs - as you and your kindred spirit Crash Barrier will find out to your cost unless you mature.
Being well-balanced doesn't mean having a chip on each shoulder. But, of course, you don't need my advice - you know it all already.
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You chaps are indeed very lucky, but all those who would say you haven't had to work for it should be mindful: It's the flying that counts, not the money. Don't tell me that if they won the lottery they wouldn't go out and get their tickets too. God luck to both of you guys.
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So, the truth is out, Whirlybird is a woman!
Stick to looking after your 'pussies' Whirly.
With your RACIST attitude against English people, you have the audacity to question 'MY' postings. The truth is out, then again maybe Anne Robinson was right, oh and us 'inferior' English people don't charge £5 or so to enter OUR country!
(apologies to the majority of open minded NON RACIST Welsh people who use this forum)
Stick to looking after your 'pussies' Whirly.
With your RACIST attitude against English people, you have the audacity to question 'MY' postings. The truth is out, then again maybe Anne Robinson was right, oh and us 'inferior' English people don't charge £5 or so to enter OUR country!
(apologies to the majority of open minded NON RACIST Welsh people who use this forum)
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crash barier is totally right, he is a spoilt brat. he better ask mommy and daddy to employ him when he cant get a job with his jaa liceSE. because nobody else will. his 43000 dollars will impress the people in the job seekers que but nobody else.
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Nice spelling tailboom.
Presumably you will be at the front of the employment queue?
Or perhaps not - when you get back to your classroom tomorrow after your day off sick today (you must be about 14 right?) - pay more attention in your spelling class.
Oh hang on - youre Ronchonner aren'tyou. The idiot with the balanced anti-JAA chip on each shoulder. You and CB make a good 'pair', maybe you should get together. But please do it somewhere else but here. Why not have a honeymoon together in the US of A, where your imaginary licence is the best thing since moms apple pie.
Maybe CB could guide you through the skies over there with his imaginary radar licence?
Presumably you will be at the front of the employment queue?
Or perhaps not - when you get back to your classroom tomorrow after your day off sick today (you must be about 14 right?) - pay more attention in your spelling class.
Oh hang on - youre Ronchonner aren'tyou. The idiot with the balanced anti-JAA chip on each shoulder. You and CB make a good 'pair', maybe you should get together. But please do it somewhere else but here. Why not have a honeymoon together in the US of A, where your imaginary licence is the best thing since moms apple pie.
Maybe CB could guide you through the skies over there with his imaginary radar licence?