I feel like the luckiest person alive
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If you've not got anything better to do Crash, then I'll lend you a shot gun, if you're too stupid to know what to do with it, then I reckon there might be a few people round here who would be willing to show you how best to use it.
Can someone ban this imbecile before we all get really p*ssed off.
[ 28 November 2001: Message edited by: Say again s l o w l y ]
Can someone ban this imbecile before we all get really p*ssed off.
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Well rich kids, enjoy it while you can but always try to appreciate the position that you are in. My father is disabled and my mother looks after her elders for peanuts so I am VERY jealous of your 'present'.
If you change your mind and decide to become an accountant I would pay you back some hefty interest over a period of say...20 years. Nice little earner for you...
If you change your mind and decide to become an accountant I would pay you back some hefty interest over a period of say...20 years. Nice little earner for you...
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If I had 45k, I'd go out and buy ,myself a nice little plane and build hours cheap as hell. Saw a nice C150 Aerobat the other day (in Phoenix) for $12000. The old boy who owned it had just passed away.....Who is Jerez anyway??
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FFS!
Never have I seen such a lot of bitter and twisted rubbish on a PPRuNe thread. So - a couple of guys here are in the fortunate position of being given a gift by their parents to follow their career of choice. I assume CB you would turn such a gift down would you? I am sure all our parents here would love to be able to do the same if they could.
So CB and all of you who've supported his sad comments, (and you know you are) shut up whinging and get on with your life for Christ's sake.
OK so maybe it was a little tactless of blackknight to share his good fortune with us in this way - but so what? Now this thread has descended even further to childish slanging and questioning other's flying abilities. How very, very sad to see PPRuNe invaded by such a bunch of morons.
Never have I seen such a lot of bitter and twisted rubbish on a PPRuNe thread. So - a couple of guys here are in the fortunate position of being given a gift by their parents to follow their career of choice. I assume CB you would turn such a gift down would you? I am sure all our parents here would love to be able to do the same if they could.
So CB and all of you who've supported his sad comments, (and you know you are) shut up whinging and get on with your life for Christ's sake.
OK so maybe it was a little tactless of blackknight to share his good fortune with us in this way - but so what? Now this thread has descended even further to childish slanging and questioning other's flying abilities. How very, very sad to see PPRuNe invaded by such a bunch of morons.
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I believe it never pays to shout about how much money you have and how you acquired it - always leads to trouble (when I was a wee lad thats what I was taught and it was pretty spot on). So blackknight probably didn't do the coolest thing by posting, but good luck with the training anyhow. As for the other posts..... I rest may case. Jealousy is certainly very destructive - and showing it is certainly uncool!!!
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Mr Spock,
Simple logic would dictate that 'little Timmy' would keep his good news to himself, and get on with the process of actually studying for the licence. Just because his mummy + daddy have spent their life savings + retirement plan on 'Spoilt Brat', does not mean that he will pass the course any easier than everybody else.
Jealousy does not come into it. It is the sheer ARROGANCE of the posting in the first place. If everybody who had financial help posted to the effect of 'Blackknight/ Little Timmy' then the forum would be full of 'Spoilt Brats'
Obviusly this concept is just toooo difficult for the peanut sized brain replies that I have endured (and the insults), but heh at least some of you could see through that cloudy mist of Bullsh*t and knew what I talking about.
It never ceases to amaze me of the continuous snobbery of the people who post on this forum, but that attitude I have seen for many years in the U.K. Aviation market and I do not think for one minute it will stop. It is a pity you are not all more 'chilled out' about replies that you don't agree with. It begs the question, if you make it onto the flight deck one day and have some major emergency, will you cope ??
From the standard of replies, I would say 'No', most of you crack up at the slightest difference of opinion on a subject and resort to swearing. If this is the future of wannabe pilots, then I will take a ferry instead. Remember you may be stuck on a longhaul flight one day with a complete knob of a Captain. If you can't stay cool don't post at all!!
Simple logic would dictate that 'little Timmy' would keep his good news to himself, and get on with the process of actually studying for the licence. Just because his mummy + daddy have spent their life savings + retirement plan on 'Spoilt Brat', does not mean that he will pass the course any easier than everybody else.
Jealousy does not come into it. It is the sheer ARROGANCE of the posting in the first place. If everybody who had financial help posted to the effect of 'Blackknight/ Little Timmy' then the forum would be full of 'Spoilt Brats'
Obviusly this concept is just toooo difficult for the peanut sized brain replies that I have endured (and the insults), but heh at least some of you could see through that cloudy mist of Bullsh*t and knew what I talking about.
It never ceases to amaze me of the continuous snobbery of the people who post on this forum, but that attitude I have seen for many years in the U.K. Aviation market and I do not think for one minute it will stop. It is a pity you are not all more 'chilled out' about replies that you don't agree with. It begs the question, if you make it onto the flight deck one day and have some major emergency, will you cope ??
From the standard of replies, I would say 'No', most of you crack up at the slightest difference of opinion on a subject and resort to swearing. If this is the future of wannabe pilots, then I will take a ferry instead. Remember you may be stuck on a longhaul flight one day with a complete knob of a Captain. If you can't stay cool don't post at all!!
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CB, you don't deserve an answer to your last post so feel priveliged that I have taken the time.
PPRuNe is not, and never has been, a place for the kind of bitterness that you display - it is about helping fellow wannabes rather than childish displays of jealousy. You even started a seperate thread about 'Little Timmy' - and you only need to look at WWW's comments to realise how sad that was.
I really cannot see where blackknight was arrogant in making his posting, I think you have inferred this through pure envy. Tactless maybe, but not arrogant. I agree about snobbery in aviation but I don't see much of it here.
{If you can't stay cool don't post at all!!} I think you should have taken your own advice when making your first misguided posting.
Tailboom - I don't normally pick up on spelling but I think if anyone looks to have had their brain 'roted' then it's you. You will not get an interview if you spell like that on an application form.
PPRuNe is not, and never has been, a place for the kind of bitterness that you display - it is about helping fellow wannabes rather than childish displays of jealousy. You even started a seperate thread about 'Little Timmy' - and you only need to look at WWW's comments to realise how sad that was.
I really cannot see where blackknight was arrogant in making his posting, I think you have inferred this through pure envy. Tactless maybe, but not arrogant. I agree about snobbery in aviation but I don't see much of it here.
{If you can't stay cool don't post at all!!} I think you should have taken your own advice when making your first misguided posting.
Tailboom - I don't normally pick up on spelling but I think if anyone looks to have had their brain 'roted' then it's you. You will not get an interview if you spell like that on an application form.
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Tailboom,
I suspect that even McDonalds expect you to be able to string a coherent sentence together!
Another prerequisite you clearly can’t meet!
And, is the McDonalds gag which you drag out on every thread you pollute your only contribution here…if it is, the gag has worn thin!
I suspect that even McDonalds expect you to be able to string a coherent sentence together!
Another prerequisite you clearly can’t meet!
And, is the McDonalds gag which you drag out on every thread you pollute your only contribution here…if it is, the gag has worn thin!
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Wedge
Please don't waste your (electronic) breath replying to anything Tailboom says, he is a sad individual who enjoys trying to create controversy, particulary regarding JAA v FAA. Otherwise known as Ronchonner etc...really really sad I know, but hey, you get 'em !
Please don't waste your (electronic) breath replying to anything Tailboom says, he is a sad individual who enjoys trying to create controversy, particulary regarding JAA v FAA. Otherwise known as Ronchonner etc...really really sad I know, but hey, you get 'em !
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Well, I've been away for a few days, and come back to discover this thread has degenerated into name calling. I was going to treat it with the contempt it deserved, but since there seem to be some misunderstandings concerning me personally, maybe I should put them right.
Crash Barrier, congratulations on being about the last person on PPRuNe to realise that I'm FEMALE! And very happy about it and not at all confused about my sexuality I might add. Do you have a problem with that?
Now, I may live in Wales, but I'm only Welsh by adoption. I was born and brought up in England, in "Sarf London", as it happens. More dragged up actually, couldn't afford second hand bikes, never mind flying lessons, but that's hardly relevant. My comments about the British (and I was actually including the whole of the British Isles in them) were based on a mis-spent youth travelling and working abroad for a number of years. Let me assure you, the kind of snobbery CB and others are showing is a typically British thing. Elsewhere people with money might be envied, but not put down or considered "posh". It all stems from the whole British class system, which is still alive and well - as you can see from this thread.
So now I've settled that, feel free to insult me if that's the only way you know how to carry on a discussion, but at least get your facts straight.
Crash Barrier, congratulations on being about the last person on PPRuNe to realise that I'm FEMALE! And very happy about it and not at all confused about my sexuality I might add. Do you have a problem with that?
Now, I may live in Wales, but I'm only Welsh by adoption. I was born and brought up in England, in "Sarf London", as it happens. More dragged up actually, couldn't afford second hand bikes, never mind flying lessons, but that's hardly relevant. My comments about the British (and I was actually including the whole of the British Isles in them) were based on a mis-spent youth travelling and working abroad for a number of years. Let me assure you, the kind of snobbery CB and others are showing is a typically British thing. Elsewhere people with money might be envied, but not put down or considered "posh". It all stems from the whole British class system, which is still alive and well - as you can see from this thread.
So now I've settled that, feel free to insult me if that's the only way you know how to carry on a discussion, but at least get your facts straight.
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just goes to show what a microcosm flying is, and i don't suppose for one minute that blacknight will go around "lording" his family wealth at his f.t.o., any more than crash barrier would besmirch his character if they innocentley met at any airfield around the country.
flying has always been one of possible conflicts of background and elitism ever since ww2 and the disparity of recognition between flying seargents and officers, through to hamble/non hamble trained, and even very recently, wannabe's that would rather not fly if it wasn't for b.a.!
so someone has the good fortune not to have to self-fund, do you hate the r.a.f. as well?, well so what, the godfathers of aviation were bicycle "engineers" bereft of anything but the thought of flight!
in these troubled times, when our dreams are turned into instruments of terror and destruction, surely we should be pulling together. sour grapes, from either point of view, no longer seem to have any relevance, or are our memories that short?
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flying has always been one of possible conflicts of background and elitism ever since ww2 and the disparity of recognition between flying seargents and officers, through to hamble/non hamble trained, and even very recently, wannabe's that would rather not fly if it wasn't for b.a.!
so someone has the good fortune not to have to self-fund, do you hate the r.a.f. as well?, well so what, the godfathers of aviation were bicycle "engineers" bereft of anything but the thought of flight!
in these troubled times, when our dreams are turned into instruments of terror and destruction, surely we should be pulling together. sour grapes, from either point of view, no longer seem to have any relevance, or are our memories that short?
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blackknight- if you want some free advice, I would strongly suggest a change of attitude.
This is a highly compettitive industry and boasts of £45K family gifts and expressions such as "sour grapes old boy," WILL only hold you back.
When and if you do break into this profession, you will realise that during any conversion training for any airline you are being closely scrutinised by the respective training staff involved. These individuals will be examining:
1- Your general ability.
2- Your speed of absorbing information.
3- Your eagerness to learn.
4- Your attitude.
In my career so far, I have seen many excel at the first three only to fall flat on their faces regarding No.4
Many people do not appreciate the value of a positive productive attitude. Some trainers actually value this trait more highly than overall ability.
This is a highly compettitive industry and boasts of £45K family gifts and expressions such as "sour grapes old boy," WILL only hold you back.
When and if you do break into this profession, you will realise that during any conversion training for any airline you are being closely scrutinised by the respective training staff involved. These individuals will be examining:
1- Your general ability.
2- Your speed of absorbing information.
3- Your eagerness to learn.
4- Your attitude.
In my career so far, I have seen many excel at the first three only to fall flat on their faces regarding No.4
Many people do not appreciate the value of a positive productive attitude. Some trainers actually value this trait more highly than overall ability.
Well I bring this whole sorry thread to a close now.
The lesson learned is an important one. This flying career thingy is at its heart a competition amongst its players. This competition is intensely felt by its players.
It is all too easy to let the challenge, the rewards, the struggles and the victories - to melt - darkly, into jealousy, contempt, selfishness and weariness.
We've all done it. Sniped at some freckle faced Cadet. Muttered at some monied spoiled brat at the flying club. Resented some RAF trained Chap gliding into that job we coveted with such ease.
It is the Dark Side of Wannabeism. We've all felt it. I have. It is seductive. Sometimes theraputic. Often enjoyable.
Resist it.
WWW
The lesson learned is an important one. This flying career thingy is at its heart a competition amongst its players. This competition is intensely felt by its players.
It is all too easy to let the challenge, the rewards, the struggles and the victories - to melt - darkly, into jealousy, contempt, selfishness and weariness.
We've all done it. Sniped at some freckle faced Cadet. Muttered at some monied spoiled brat at the flying club. Resented some RAF trained Chap gliding into that job we coveted with such ease.
It is the Dark Side of Wannabeism. We've all felt it. I have. It is seductive. Sometimes theraputic. Often enjoyable.
Resist it.
WWW