I feel like the luckiest person alive
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I feel like the luckiest person alive
Hi chap's and chappess's, well i can t help it i have been trying to contain myself for some 6 hours now but it is no use, i have got my contract through and my parents have just given me a cheque for £45,000, no strings, they dont want paying back or anything, Now i know some people will say oh look another rich kid, but believe me flying is all i have wanted to do for a very long time, i just hope i get a job at the end of it all, anyways i feel abig weight lifting off my mind. I also hope that even though i have acquired my money under somewhat more aggreeable terms than most, we should all remain positive and keep our goals firmly set out
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I am fortunate to have been in the same position as you. Many people feel that people such as us are spoilt and don't have the determination of people that have had to fund themselves. In most cases I feel that this is rubbish. I have felt a real commitment to my parents not to let them down and work much harder beacause of this than if I had to pay my own way. It is my belief that some of the airline sponsored students are not so committed and make poorer students than us.
Anyway good luck and don't let your parents down.
Anyway good luck and don't let your parents down.
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Good luck to you both. Don't listen to people who are just jealous. You have no reason to feel guilty, and there's no reason why you should be any worse, or any better, than anyone else. Use the money wisely, and enjoy it!
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Good luck but i actually think thats more pressure than i have.
My folks have always been very negative about me becoming a "bus driver" and i have funded myself. And the pressure which i had at uni when they had to pay 3 grand a year was a nightmare. So although everyone thinks lucky chap you may have more stress than you realise when things don't go sweet the first time.
Good luck
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My folks have always been very negative about me becoming a "bus driver" and i have funded myself. And the pressure which i had at uni when they had to pay 3 grand a year was a nightmare. So although everyone thinks lucky chap you may have more stress than you realise when things don't go sweet the first time.
Good luck
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What your parents have given you is an opportunity, so make them proud. My parents have also been very kind to me, not only paying for public schooling, and supporting me and helping me pay for my PPL, but they are still helping me through University. I think education is the greatest gift offa all, it allows you to live your dreams!
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The Greaser and Blacknight Sorry to pop your balloon, but its not the raising the funds for the course that is hard. It is the job at the end of the tunnel. If i could be garanteed a job then a £45000 loan could be easily sercured. Anyway enjoy your training. I am not in any way shape or form jealous. ok. good.
P.S. just wondering are any of your parents looking to adopt. I have very good credentials!!
P.S. just wondering are any of your parents looking to adopt. I have very good credentials!!
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Liverbird,
The only "luck" required in being in the right place (queue) at the right time.
I paid my own way along with a little (lot) of help from the US Government, but I broke into the airlines during a party hosted by a commuter opening a base at an airport where I was a tower controller.
This commuter had invited all of the local travel agents to this "Open House" and as an afterthought called the tower to ask us. It happened I was the controller who answered the phone. I was the only controller who showed up and immediately I realized I had more experience than the F/O's who worked there.
A few words with the DO and I was "in".
A license, some experience, and RIGHT PLACE, RIGHT TIME.
Good luck guys...you will need it, along with your skills that you will acquire along the way.
Don't apologize to anyone for however you get your start.....
The only "luck" required in being in the right place (queue) at the right time.
I paid my own way along with a little (lot) of help from the US Government, but I broke into the airlines during a party hosted by a commuter opening a base at an airport where I was a tower controller.
This commuter had invited all of the local travel agents to this "Open House" and as an afterthought called the tower to ask us. It happened I was the controller who answered the phone. I was the only controller who showed up and immediately I realized I had more experience than the F/O's who worked there.
A few words with the DO and I was "in".
A license, some experience, and RIGHT PLACE, RIGHT TIME.
Good luck guys...you will need it, along with your skills that you will acquire along the way.
Don't apologize to anyone for however you get your start.....
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Best of luck, work hard and enjoy the training.
It is nice that you have supportive parents, my father in particular isn't too happy with my chosen career and therefore any financial assistance is unlikely. Although when I finally sign up for training, you never know
Just make sure when you get that first big break, that your parents get large Christmas and Birthday presents
Sagey
It is nice that you have supportive parents
, my father in particular isn't too happy with my chosen career and therefore any financial assistance is unlikely. Although when I finally sign up for training, you never know Just make sure when you get that first big break, that your parents get large Christmas and Birthday presents
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I know that *some* (but not many) BA cadets are far less committed to the career than blackknight and Greaser, and you also have the added pressure on you of making good your parents' investment and passing everything first time.
Not saying that with BA you don't have that pressure, but you can still decide half way through the course it's not for you and stop working and fail the exams. Happens less now but when BA advertised in the national press there were many cases of people seeing the advert, applying and getting in. I am not taking anything away from them either - good luck to them - but, their parents were not funding them which is a different kind off pressure.
That said, there are also those rich kids who don't know what to do for a career, and their parents say "Why don't you become a pilot?".......and so on.
No one needs to know who is funding your training so keep it to yourself, it's a hard course and it will be even harder to find a job at the end of it. The best way to get any job, I have no doubt, is to know people, so if you don't have inside contacts now, then make some........and this goes for everyone looking to get a job. There are lots of ways of doing so and if you don't know what they are then find out.
Don't feel in the least but worried that there are those who have had it harder than you, that's life and you either get the breaks or you don't......but you make your own luck and if you do get a lucky break it's usually because you put yourself in the right position to get it.
Not saying that with BA you don't have that pressure, but you can still decide half way through the course it's not for you and stop working and fail the exams. Happens less now but when BA advertised in the national press there were many cases of people seeing the advert, applying and getting in. I am not taking anything away from them either - good luck to them - but, their parents were not funding them which is a different kind off pressure.
That said, there are also those rich kids who don't know what to do for a career, and their parents say "Why don't you become a pilot?".......and so on.
No one needs to know who is funding your training so keep it to yourself, it's a hard course and it will be even harder to find a job at the end of it. The best way to get any job, I have no doubt, is to know people, so if you don't have inside contacts now, then make some........and this goes for everyone looking to get a job. There are lots of ways of doing so and if you don't know what they are then find out.
Don't feel in the least but worried that there are those who have had it harder than you, that's life and you either get the breaks or you don't......but you make your own luck and if you do get a lucky break it's usually because you put yourself in the right position to get it.
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The Greaser,
I think your belief that airline sponsored cadets are less committed and make poorer students is a bit flawed. They have all gone through the long-winded selection processes and generally obtain slightly better exam results than non-sponsored folk. Perhaps it is because they feel a real committment to the airline not to let them down and as a result work bloody hard !!
Anyway, good luck to you, hopefully the industry will have picked up when you qualify.
cheers
I think your belief that airline sponsored cadets are less committed and make poorer students is a bit flawed. They have all gone through the long-winded selection processes and generally obtain slightly better exam results than non-sponsored folk. Perhaps it is because they feel a real committment to the airline not to let them down and as a result work bloody hard !!
Anyway, good luck to you, hopefully the industry will have picked up when you qualify.
cheers
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Your parents handover of £45k up front is a recipe for disaster. Personally - as a parent - I'd say "Here's £3k, prove to me that you can get a PPL". After that, it would be stage payments all the way. I would remind you too that this is £45k + interest that you will not inherit. The above worked well with my son who has just moved to the LHS.
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Driftwood, did i forget to mention that i alreday have my PPL, and paid for that myself, i passes my skills test on 46 hrs and all the exam marks were 90%+, also if i want to do an integrated course, as it seems the best way to progress through your training, not dismissing the fact that modular is good too, i just prefer the idea of integrated, then i need to have that money available. and lastly assuming my parents die at the ripe old age of 80, that means i will be 54, so what use is inheriting £45k + interest going to be to me for a flying career when im that old. i think the phrase is sour grapes old boy!!!
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Now then blacknight
You have been well treated on this thread, I suspect you were expecting (maybe even hoping) for something different, then driftwood gave some sound advice for the crowd in general. I agree with it totally by the way, and you come back with i think the phrase is sour grapes old boy!!!
Now that was uncalled for but you are still a kid and I was a jerk back in those days too
So good luck and remember not to **** older people off by being a smart-ass, they may be the person who gives you a job one day.
You have been well treated on this thread, I suspect you were expecting (maybe even hoping) for something different, then driftwood gave some sound advice for the crowd in general. I agree with it totally by the way, and you come back with i think the phrase is sour grapes old boy!!!
Now that was uncalled for but you are still a kid and I was a jerk back in those days too
So good luck and remember not to **** older people off by being a smart-ass, they may be the person who gives you a job one day.
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blackknight,
What a wonderful break - congratulations!
Please take this the right way. To succeed in a professional career you MUST learn to write grammatically, and to punctuate correctly. The old saying about "succeeding in spite of ...., not because of ...." is not old hat these days. I really don't want you to go through the whole course and then fail at the interview stage. You WON'T even get there if you send letters written to the standard of your two postings on this thread.
Lecture over! (And it really is meant to help - and WILL if you take it on board! There are some good books on the market that can help you sort out your problem.)
Good luck!
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What a wonderful break - congratulations!
Please take this the right way. To succeed in a professional career you MUST learn to write grammatically, and to punctuate correctly. The old saying about "succeeding in spite of ...., not because of ...." is not old hat these days. I really don't want you to go through the whole course and then fail at the interview stage. You WON'T even get there if you send letters written to the standard of your two postings on this thread.
Lecture over! (And it really is meant to help - and WILL if you take it on board! There are some good books on the market that can help you sort out your problem.)
Good luck!
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OOhhh, congratulations little 'Timmy' on blagging 45K out of your parents. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF!
Have you ever read Viz, Spoilt B*STARD about sums you up!
I suppose if you pass it will be 'Mummy, please can I have a 767 type rating for christmas?'
Silver spoon fed chumps!!
Have you ever read Viz, Spoilt B*STARD about sums you up!
I suppose if you pass it will be 'Mummy, please can I have a 767 type rating for christmas?'
Silver spoon fed chumps!!
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Well, there's always one. And I knew what country he came from without even looking. Only in Britain is one supposed to feel guilty about having money.
Crash Barrier, with your attitude I wouldn't employ you to pick up tiddlywinks, let alone fly aeroplanes.
Crash Barrier, with your attitude I wouldn't employ you to pick up tiddlywinks, let alone fly aeroplanes.