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My dream - advice please (collective thread)

Old 3rd May 2021, 02:42
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Join Date: May 2021
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Question non EU citizen low hour pilot find a job?

Greetings! I'm an aspiring wannabe pilot from Morocco! I posses a vehement ardour for flight, and It hurts me to think I have a very slim chance of becoming one. I don't have an EU citizenship; and I was looking through the low hour FO job requirements for multiple airlines, they all request the unrestricted right to live and work in the EU... For reference, I still haven't started my training; and I'm willing to get a frozen ATPL when the skies are friendlier. I heard Wizz Air used to employ international low hour pilots, but looking in their website; it seems they changed it, Any ideas or workarounds for my drawback? maybe getting a work visa or something alike? Please let me know, thanks in advance.
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Old 3rd May 2021, 09:46
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Move to Europe and work on getting an EU passport. Work permits mean nothing to airlines they want you to have an EU passport.
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Old 3rd May 2021, 20:04
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No EU citizenship no party.
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Old 3rd May 2021, 21:00
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That's pretty depressing, might as well be a simulator pilot the rest of my life . Do all low hour opportunities require an EU citizenship? If so it's pretty much impossible for me to become a pilot even American airlines require citizenships... Maybe middle eastern airlines? But they need a high amount of experience no? I'm in an endless maze...
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Old 3rd May 2021, 21:56
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Why not Moroccan airlines?
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Old 4th May 2021, 10:29
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Fellow wannabe, 0.5 hrs on a c152, residing in ME in an unpopular local state of which its legitimacy is doubted upon by many (I doubt it myself)
Standing in the same square as yourself, my idea is to start the PPL in EU zone, and after getting my bearings aligned with what country in the EU is most inviting (currently EE region looks inviting, but it has its downsides) I would work on a CPL and start working on getting a work permit. Once you have a work permit and get an actual job (don't mind being an expensive Air Uber), work your hours, and at the same time starting checking boxes on your "citizenship to do list" for that country.
Most countries, from what little research I did, require you to live in that country for a minimum time, even with a tempo access as a student or Gaestarbeiter, then there's the language barrier, which is almost always required for citizenship (but afaik not for residence permit)
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Old 4th May 2021, 13:14
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there's just one Moroccan airline sadly, and I was willing to path towards its cadet program although it's somewhat irrational (one of its requirements is to undergo a 2 year preparatory class with sophisticated mathematics and physics that'll serve you no value as a commercial pilot, they're pretty hard to get into as well; also there's huge bias in the selection process and it's mainly not out of merit) That aside, due to the pandemic; they sacked half their fleet and illegally fired half the pilot, and pretty much abandoned the cadet pilots. It's a pretty dire situation. The cadet program doesn't exist anymore and to join the airline you need to be a CAE Oxford Aviation Academy graduate and have a lot of experience hence it's a traditional airline. Therefore Moroccan airlines are sadly not an option in the near future by the looks of things.
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Old 5th May 2021, 22:22
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That's a nice plan Juppie! It will take time and some hard work but it'll be worth it at time's end. Thanks for the suggestions )
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Old 8th May 2021, 12:37
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Its nice to have a plan but it’s not a very realistic plan.
A lot of large European National carriers hire predominantly from their own flight academies and if not from a selected few schools.
Which means you need to have done your training at a specific school. For instance Lufthansa Flight Academy or the KLM Flight academy for their respective airlines.
You’ll need to be fluent in the language and they will requires citizenship or EU Citizenship.
Which means that’s a 5-7 year delay before you can even apply at the school.
So that’s pretty much impossible.
I would suggest you look at Poland, Greece and Jordan for your flight training.
Then look for jobs in Africa, Middle East and Asia.
There will always be jobs for people willing to sacrifice and move to wherever that job might be.
I have known a handful of people that have flown tourists in Africa before moving on to airline jobs, also know people that have flown in Indonesia and PapuaNG.

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