Cabair (Merged '11)
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Cabair (Merged '11)
It looks like it's been a while since anyone has posted to this thread, so if there is anyone here who would care to share their recent experiences with Cabair, good or bad, I for one would be grateful.
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Heres an experience:
I called Cranfield and requested a brochure and upto date pricing for both their Integrated and Modular courses. Having a PPL already, I was told I will be reimbursed a small amount into an integrated course if I was to train with them.
To date, (Today will be 8 days) I have yet to recieve any emails of any kind from Cabair. It completely opened my eyes, as if I am being treated like this prior to paying them £50k or what ever the costs are, what will they be like when they have my money in their pockets!?
Cabair either, do not wany my money or are completely foolish when it comes to business. Either way, they will not be training me
I called Cranfield and requested a brochure and upto date pricing for both their Integrated and Modular courses. Having a PPL already, I was told I will be reimbursed a small amount into an integrated course if I was to train with them.
To date, (Today will be 8 days) I have yet to recieve any emails of any kind from Cabair. It completely opened my eyes, as if I am being treated like this prior to paying them £50k or what ever the costs are, what will they be like when they have my money in their pockets!?
Cabair either, do not wany my money or are completely foolish when it comes to business. Either way, they will not be training me
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You are indeed right, Keren is no longer with the company. Ask for Calise Mole instead.
I did Cabair's integrated course and to be honest they were very good. The course took more like 18 months than the 13 months advertised but no problems other than that.
Any questions Nagsta, pm me.
I did Cabair's integrated course and to be honest they were very good. The course took more like 18 months than the 13 months advertised but no problems other than that.
Any questions Nagsta, pm me.
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In my experience (over 2 yrs ago now) the ATPL ground school (at Bournemouth) was very good, with high pass rates.
However I chose not to do any flying with them as there seemed to be a very high student:instructor ratio, and the guys on the CPL/IR did a lot of hanging around doing nothing. I've also heard less than complimentary things about flying with cabair from others.
However I chose not to do any flying with them as there seemed to be a very high student:instructor ratio, and the guys on the CPL/IR did a lot of hanging around doing nothing. I've also heard less than complimentary things about flying with cabair from others.
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Cabair Assessment
Hey. I'll be having my assessment with Cabair like 8 hours from now. So you guys have any idea where to find the examples of the assessment? We'll be having Morrisby test by 9 a.m and Written Maths test at 1:30 Pm and followed by Aural maths. And if anybody knows how will this test be conducted? So if you guys can help me out. XD Thanks.
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Hi David, Graham Austin is no longer Chief Exec. He left about 2 years ago and Mike Watt now fills that role.
Iranair, I was at Cranfield but I would guess smart trousers and a shirt (or suit) on the first day. It is unlikely that you will be flying on the very first day as there are always lots of other things to run through but maybe end of that week, very start of the next.
As for Cabair being your last choice, I would have to disagree. I never found a problem getting onto the DA40. Fair enough, the course definitely lasts longer than 13 months but I think they have now changed their promo blurb to a 62 week course. Some people did manage to complete the course in 15 months but I still think 17-18 months is more realistic and in line with the other schools. Having left nearly a year ago I can tell you that they don't just forget about you but you do have to work at keeping yourself fresh in their minds. If you sit back and expect a job to come to you then you will be stuck for a long time! They do still have industry contacts and they can still make recommendations (once that area picks up again). Oxford and CTC do look better connected but that doesn't mean that Cabair have nothing.
Iranair, I was at Cranfield but I would guess smart trousers and a shirt (or suit) on the first day. It is unlikely that you will be flying on the very first day as there are always lots of other things to run through but maybe end of that week, very start of the next.
As for Cabair being your last choice, I would have to disagree. I never found a problem getting onto the DA40. Fair enough, the course definitely lasts longer than 13 months but I think they have now changed their promo blurb to a 62 week course. Some people did manage to complete the course in 15 months but I still think 17-18 months is more realistic and in line with the other schools. Having left nearly a year ago I can tell you that they don't just forget about you but you do have to work at keeping yourself fresh in their minds. If you sit back and expect a job to come to you then you will be stuck for a long time! They do still have industry contacts and they can still make recommendations (once that area picks up again). Oxford and CTC do look better connected but that doesn't mean that Cabair have nothing.
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I am looking at starting my ATPL theory with Cabair in Jan / Mar 2011 and will be doing this on a full time basis. I will be bringing my 5 Berth Caravan as my accomodation which has a very large awning so there is plenty of space.
I will be having one of the double beds and would consider renting out the other double bed to another possible student!!
If anyone is interested in staying with me for £45.00 - £50.00 per week to include all bills, then drop me a private message.
The location is very close to the Airfield and will have running water, electricity and there is a shower and loo block next to caravan.
I will be having one of the double beds and would consider renting out the other double bed to another possible student!!
If anyone is interested in staying with me for £45.00 - £50.00 per week to include all bills, then drop me a private message.
The location is very close to the Airfield and will have running water, electricity and there is a shower and loo block next to caravan.
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Flying with Cabair
Hi everyone,
I've done the majority of my training so far with Cabair, in Bournemouth and some at Orlando Flight Training, in Florida.
Its coming up to the point of deciding where to do my CPL/IR, etc, and I'm seriously considering doing it with Cabair, most probably in Bournemouth. Whilst I've read some of the reviews people have given about them on here, I was curious a) to hear if any of those people who had done there CPL/IR's, etc, with them in Bournemouth, had gone on to get jobs with airlines and b) if the training there was really as bad as some people make out?? Baring in mind that cost is going to be a key factor in my decision on where to go, the quote I have been given from Cabair is considerably more reasonable than some I've got from a few of the other schools at Bournemouth. Also, in the past I haven't really had any major issues with them.
I would appreciate any insight into the above that anyone has,
I've done the majority of my training so far with Cabair, in Bournemouth and some at Orlando Flight Training, in Florida.
Its coming up to the point of deciding where to do my CPL/IR, etc, and I'm seriously considering doing it with Cabair, most probably in Bournemouth. Whilst I've read some of the reviews people have given about them on here, I was curious a) to hear if any of those people who had done there CPL/IR's, etc, with them in Bournemouth, had gone on to get jobs with airlines and b) if the training there was really as bad as some people make out?? Baring in mind that cost is going to be a key factor in my decision on where to go, the quote I have been given from Cabair is considerably more reasonable than some I've got from a few of the other schools at Bournemouth. Also, in the past I haven't really had any major issues with them.
I would appreciate any insight into the above that anyone has,
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I've never done any flying with Cabair Bournemouth; however, the reviews from friends who did weren't great. I recall a friend mentioning that on one occasion he had a flight cancelled because his instructor was too busy bidding on eBay.
I'd suggest you try PAT, just up the road. I personally never went there, but they seem to have a reputation for good training. Ask to speak to Gerald Riddett. He's a top bloke and an excellent instructor.
Best of luck with your training!
I'd suggest you try PAT, just up the road. I personally never went there, but they seem to have a reputation for good training. Ask to speak to Gerald Riddett. He's a top bloke and an excellent instructor.
Best of luck with your training!
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Thanks for your response TopGunGB.
At the place I have been staying in Bournemouth, there have been at least 2 pilots who came through there from PAT, both of whom were not overly impressed with them. One came from BCFT and finished their CPL/IR, etc with PAT and ended up going back to BCFT because they were so fed up with PAT messing them about. This kind of put me off PAT but this was about a year or so ago so they might have changed since then?!
Thanks for your info though!!
At the place I have been staying in Bournemouth, there have been at least 2 pilots who came through there from PAT, both of whom were not overly impressed with them. One came from BCFT and finished their CPL/IR, etc with PAT and ended up going back to BCFT because they were so fed up with PAT messing them about. This kind of put me off PAT but this was about a year or so ago so they might have changed since then?!
Thanks for your info though!!
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EPTA (Cabair) and BCFT
Hello Everyone!
I know that these schools have been discussed on this forum several times, however I really wanted to ask someone who is currently training with any of the mentioned schools (EPTA & BCFT) about their experience. I have been saving for my flying training pretty much all of my life and before I make this serious commitment I need to know a bit more about the training facilities from people who are either out there now or have been studying with them in the past.
So...I currently have a PPL and a few flying hours on SEP. I am now looking to do the ATPL theory + all the other required modules towards an fATPL (CPL, Multi, IR, MCC) at either EPTA or BCFT.
I visited both schools and they were fairly similar in terms of aircraft they operate and pass rates on the theoretical part. But could someone here please share their experience with the following:
1. How did you find the ATPL ground studies - were the instructors approachable, how well was the course structured, etc?
2. When you started flying training, was there good availability of aircraft/instructors or did you have to wait weeks (like we had to during our PPL) for the school to fix their planes and find an instructor?
3. After you completed the course, did the school help you with applying to the airlines with recommendation letters or such? I know that it will be completely up to myself to find a job but did the school aid you in one way or another?
4. Where did you stay during the training? The nearest place I could find was about 3 miles away from the airport with no bus service and since I don't have a car this can be a problem for me...especially during ground school.
Thank you very much in advance. Any feedback is highly appreciated.
I know that these schools have been discussed on this forum several times, however I really wanted to ask someone who is currently training with any of the mentioned schools (EPTA & BCFT) about their experience. I have been saving for my flying training pretty much all of my life and before I make this serious commitment I need to know a bit more about the training facilities from people who are either out there now or have been studying with them in the past.
So...I currently have a PPL and a few flying hours on SEP. I am now looking to do the ATPL theory + all the other required modules towards an fATPL (CPL, Multi, IR, MCC) at either EPTA or BCFT.
I visited both schools and they were fairly similar in terms of aircraft they operate and pass rates on the theoretical part. But could someone here please share their experience with the following:
1. How did you find the ATPL ground studies - were the instructors approachable, how well was the course structured, etc?
2. When you started flying training, was there good availability of aircraft/instructors or did you have to wait weeks (like we had to during our PPL) for the school to fix their planes and find an instructor?
3. After you completed the course, did the school help you with applying to the airlines with recommendation letters or such? I know that it will be completely up to myself to find a job but did the school aid you in one way or another?
4. Where did you stay during the training? The nearest place I could find was about 3 miles away from the airport with no bus service and since I don't have a car this can be a problem for me...especially during ground school.
Thank you very much in advance. Any feedback is highly appreciated.
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Hi dream7879,
I did my Ground school studies at EPTA, although as part of one of the university degree courses they offer and I can honestly say I found them to be very good. The instructors are all very knowledgable and very willing to go out of there way to assist you. I personally struggled with GNAV and our GNAV instructor spent several evenings going over things with myself and a few others who were struggling, even if it meant there was only one person that he was teaching, he would often stay behind till gone 6 o clock (our lessons finished around 4 and the modular lessons around 5).
I haven't yet started my flying as I'm currently finishing my third year of the university degree part before I go onto the flying so can't really comment on that aspect.
In regards to accomodation, there is a lot of accomodation very close to the airport, we had someone in our class who didn't drive and she stayed opposite The Curlew pub which is about a 10-15 minute walk around to EPTA, slightly shorter to BCFT. Aslo around by Parley Cross there is a lot of accomdation available, again that is slightly further walking or cycling, but is do-able. There is a bus service, I can't remember which number, but it runs from Bournemouth Town Centre out to one of the villages outside of Bournemouth, but it stops at Parley Cross so that is another option if you can't find accomodation within walking or cycling distance. I know at EPTA/Cabair they have an accomodation list and I'm pretty sure they have a similar thing at BCFT, so it would be worth speaking to the school you decide to go with about that.
Also forgot to mention, when it comes to flying, BCFT's aircraft are located right next to the school, which has access right out onto there 'apron' if you like, whereas the EPTA building is slightly further away and its aircraft are kept on the other side of the airport at Aviation Park East, where as the EPTA building is Aviation Park West...that might be something to consider also.
Hope that helps,
9287Excellent.
I did my Ground school studies at EPTA, although as part of one of the university degree courses they offer and I can honestly say I found them to be very good. The instructors are all very knowledgable and very willing to go out of there way to assist you. I personally struggled with GNAV and our GNAV instructor spent several evenings going over things with myself and a few others who were struggling, even if it meant there was only one person that he was teaching, he would often stay behind till gone 6 o clock (our lessons finished around 4 and the modular lessons around 5).
I haven't yet started my flying as I'm currently finishing my third year of the university degree part before I go onto the flying so can't really comment on that aspect.
In regards to accomodation, there is a lot of accomodation very close to the airport, we had someone in our class who didn't drive and she stayed opposite The Curlew pub which is about a 10-15 minute walk around to EPTA, slightly shorter to BCFT. Aslo around by Parley Cross there is a lot of accomdation available, again that is slightly further walking or cycling, but is do-able. There is a bus service, I can't remember which number, but it runs from Bournemouth Town Centre out to one of the villages outside of Bournemouth, but it stops at Parley Cross so that is another option if you can't find accomodation within walking or cycling distance. I know at EPTA/Cabair they have an accomodation list and I'm pretty sure they have a similar thing at BCFT, so it would be worth speaking to the school you decide to go with about that.
Also forgot to mention, when it comes to flying, BCFT's aircraft are located right next to the school, which has access right out onto there 'apron' if you like, whereas the EPTA building is slightly further away and its aircraft are kept on the other side of the airport at Aviation Park East, where as the EPTA building is Aviation Park West...that might be something to consider also.
Hope that helps,
9287Excellent.
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Thank you very much 9287Excellent for the great feedback. I guess I will just have to find the closest place I can and then maybe rent a car or something.
As for BCFT ... is there someone on this forum who is currently studying with them? I would really like to speak to you via PM. I have almost made up my mind and just need to figure out the start date.
Cheers!
dream7879
As for BCFT ... is there someone on this forum who is currently studying with them? I would really like to speak to you via PM. I have almost made up my mind and just need to figure out the start date.
Cheers!
dream7879