M1 Visa or no Visa and SEVIS approved schools in the USA
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From: London, GB
The DSO might believe the proposed hour building precludes meeting the attendance requirement. However, if vocational student status is maintained it's really none of the school's business whether an aircraft is rented elsewhere for recreational purposes.
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From: Singapore
Flight schools recommendation in USA and Canada
Hello everyone!
I'm from Colombia and I'm looking for the right flight school. I've seen a lot of schools but some of them are too expensive and the other ones don't convince me in terms of quality of training. I´ve checked schools in FL, TX, CA, but the location doesn't matter to me if it has good weather conditions. Here are some of the schools I've seen.
-Epic Flight Academy
-American Flyers
-Global Atlantis
-Fly Safety
-Aeroguard
-L3 Aviation
-Sunrise Aviation
-CAE flight Academy
-Wayman Aviation
-2Fly airborne
-Aviator Collegue
-Phoenix East Aviation
-Florida Flyers Flight Academy
-ATP
-Flying Academy Miami
-Dean International Flight School
-ADF airways
Do you guys recommend me one of them or another? I'll be really glad to read your comments.
Thanks a lot!
I'm from Colombia and I'm looking for the right flight school. I've seen a lot of schools but some of them are too expensive and the other ones don't convince me in terms of quality of training. I´ve checked schools in FL, TX, CA, but the location doesn't matter to me if it has good weather conditions. Here are some of the schools I've seen.
-Epic Flight Academy
-American Flyers
-Global Atlantis
-Fly Safety
-Aeroguard
-L3 Aviation
-Sunrise Aviation
-CAE flight Academy
-Wayman Aviation
-2Fly airborne
-Aviator Collegue
-Phoenix East Aviation
-Florida Flyers Flight Academy
-ATP
-Flying Academy Miami
-Dean International Flight School
-ADF airways
Do you guys recommend me one of them or another? I'll be really glad to read your comments.
Thanks a lot!
For USA - I am interested in the F1 - Airline Pilot Career program. I have a good IELTS Academic score and am fit and will be able to pass FAA Class 1 Medical. I hope to complete the ground school and flight training in the next 12-18 months and then build the necessary 1000 hours towards ATPL as a CFI.
In case I consider Canada the Visa won't be an issue but I am not quite sure whether I should be looking forward to Aerocadet / Toronto Airways Inc while prospecting for a flight school. Any feedback will be really helpful. Thank you.
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From: Rynfield, Benoni
Have a job offer which requires doing a type rating in the US. The airline does their own in-house training using their training captains. The problem is they are not accredited with SEVP, although the simulators that are hired are accredited.
What happens if the simulator company don't want to issue a I-20 Form as they are not doing the training, and the airline can't issue one either as they are not SEVP accredited.
My question is, can the type rating be done on a B1 visitors visa, since it's not possible to get a M-1 visa, or is training out of the question then?
What happens if the simulator company don't want to issue a I-20 Form as they are not doing the training, and the airline can't issue one either as they are not SEVP accredited.
My question is, can the type rating be done on a B1 visitors visa, since it's not possible to get a M-1 visa, or is training out of the question then?
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From: London, GB
"...can the type rating be done on a B1 visitors visa...?"
No, see the memo linked in post #255. Initial training that could lead to certification requires a student visa unless already admitted into the US under another qualifying visa or status. See ICE's guide, Nonimmigrants: Who Can Study?
8 CFR 214.2(b)(7)
Enrollment in a course of study prohibited. An alien who is admitted as, or changes status to, a B-1 or B-2 nonimmigrant on or after April 12, 2002, or who files a request to extend the period of authorized stay in B-1 or B-2 nonimmigrant status on or after such date, violates the conditions of his or her B-1 or B-2 status if the alien enrolls in a course of study. Such an alien who desires to enroll in a course of study must either obtain an F-1 or M-1 nonimmigrant visa from a consular officer abroad and seek readmission to the United States, or apply for and obtain a change of status under section 248 of the Act and 8 CFR part 248. The alien may not enroll in the course of study until the Service has admitted the alien as an F-1 or M-1 nonimmigrant or has approved the alien's application under part 248 of this chapter and changed the alien's status to that of an F-1 or M-1 nonimmigrant.
9 FAM 402.5-5(J)(7) (U) Aviation Training
(CT:VISA-1970; 04-22-2024)
a. (U) All flight training for initial training or subsequent training that will result in a certificate or rating must be undertaken on an F or M visa. This includes FAA, EASA, and other equivalent certificates.
b. (U) Recurrent or refresher training (training related to an aircraft for which the applicant has already received certification) may be undertaken on a B-1. Recurrent training is the training required for crewmembers to remain adequately trained and currently proficient for each aircraft crewmember position, and type of operation in which the crewmember serves. It often consists of flight simulator training but may also entail classroom training to update pilots on such things as recent safety issues, trends in aviation, and modifications to aircraft configuration or operating procedures. This assumes that the applicant’s employer is covering the recurrent training costs, incidental costs, and that the applicant does not receive a salary or perform labor in the United States.
No, see the memo linked in post #255. Initial training that could lead to certification requires a student visa unless already admitted into the US under another qualifying visa or status. See ICE's guide, Nonimmigrants: Who Can Study?
8 CFR 214.2(b)(7)
Enrollment in a course of study prohibited. An alien who is admitted as, or changes status to, a B-1 or B-2 nonimmigrant on or after April 12, 2002, or who files a request to extend the period of authorized stay in B-1 or B-2 nonimmigrant status on or after such date, violates the conditions of his or her B-1 or B-2 status if the alien enrolls in a course of study. Such an alien who desires to enroll in a course of study must either obtain an F-1 or M-1 nonimmigrant visa from a consular officer abroad and seek readmission to the United States, or apply for and obtain a change of status under section 248 of the Act and 8 CFR part 248. The alien may not enroll in the course of study until the Service has admitted the alien as an F-1 or M-1 nonimmigrant or has approved the alien's application under part 248 of this chapter and changed the alien's status to that of an F-1 or M-1 nonimmigrant.
9 FAM 402.5-5(J)(7) (U) Aviation Training
(CT:VISA-1970; 04-22-2024)
a. (U) All flight training for initial training or subsequent training that will result in a certificate or rating must be undertaken on an F or M visa. This includes FAA, EASA, and other equivalent certificates.
b. (U) Recurrent or refresher training (training related to an aircraft for which the applicant has already received certification) may be undertaken on a B-1. Recurrent training is the training required for crewmembers to remain adequately trained and currently proficient for each aircraft crewmember position, and type of operation in which the crewmember serves. It often consists of flight simulator training but may also entail classroom training to update pilots on such things as recent safety issues, trends in aviation, and modifications to aircraft configuration or operating procedures. This assumes that the applicant’s employer is covering the recurrent training costs, incidental costs, and that the applicant does not receive a salary or perform labor in the United States.
