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Hi guys, hope everyone is well?
Im new to this forum and have been looking through this thread for a little while now, but I have a slightly different view about the Jet2 ‘Pilot Apprentice’ program, and I just felt like I should share it.
As I read it, it isn’t the kind of thing you sign up for for three years and end up with an ATPL at the end of it. I believe the requirements state that you need your fATPL already in order to apply. You then work your way round the various departments within the company (cabin crew, ground ops etc etc), presumably to show your commitment to Jet2 and pasion for eventually becoming a pilot, and in return they bond you the money for the type rating to ultimately get you in the right hand seat.
Although working your way around the company doing every job other than flying for a while doesn’t sound ideal, especially when you have your fATPL in your hand, but trying to find an aditional £30k for a type rating after leaving flight school is probably quite tricky for a lot of people too. You have to pay Jet2 the money back of course, but surely it’s better than going to a bank, with your hat in your hand asking for a(nother) loan?
This is just the way I have read it, and I haven’t gone over it with a fine-toothed comb, so I am open to correction.
Im new to this forum and have been looking through this thread for a little while now, but I have a slightly different view about the Jet2 ‘Pilot Apprentice’ program, and I just felt like I should share it.
As I read it, it isn’t the kind of thing you sign up for for three years and end up with an ATPL at the end of it. I believe the requirements state that you need your fATPL already in order to apply. You then work your way round the various departments within the company (cabin crew, ground ops etc etc), presumably to show your commitment to Jet2 and pasion for eventually becoming a pilot, and in return they bond you the money for the type rating to ultimately get you in the right hand seat.
Although working your way around the company doing every job other than flying for a while doesn’t sound ideal, especially when you have your fATPL in your hand, but trying to find an aditional £30k for a type rating after leaving flight school is probably quite tricky for a lot of people too. You have to pay Jet2 the money back of course, but surely it’s better than going to a bank, with your hat in your hand asking for a(nother) loan?
This is just the way I have read it, and I haven’t gone over it with a fine-toothed comb, so I am open to correction.
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From a lot of researching I have come up with more questions,
If you do a ME CPL do you need to get a MEP Rating at all?
Is it possible to do a SE CPL then a MEP Rating?
What the best sequence to do the CPL, MEP and ME/IR in?
If you do a ME CPL do you need to get a MEP Rating at all?
Is it possible to do a SE CPL then a MEP Rating?
What the best sequence to do the CPL, MEP and ME/IR in?
Correct. You need to do the course (6 hours) but you don't need to take the test or get the rating, saving at least £1000.
If you're converting from an FAA IR via the 50 hour pic route, i think you'd be exempt the mep course if your FAA IR already had multi privileges (I'll need to read up on that)
If you're converting from an FAA IR via the 50 hour pic route, i think you'd be exempt the mep course if your FAA IR already had multi privileges (I'll need to read up on that)
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Pilot training loans? (July 2018)
Before I begin, I'd like to say that I have looked on previous threads about the subject, however most are outdated on the subject. I've searched through pages of Google and only come across forums, with too, outdated answers. After weighing up the risks and rewards over the past 6 months my parents have agreed to use their house as security if they can get the type of loan I will go on to ask about below. I thought I would add this as a common theme within the threads I have read have been, 'are you sure' on using a property as security and after carefully considering and agreeing with alot of the risks, but also the rewards, they have agreed to do so. Also a bit of background. The course I have looked into visited is the "Aeros Fastrack" course with Aeros in the UK. Its a modular course,but depending on how available you are, you can work through it like an integrated course, but primarily it is an modular course. I just wanted to clear all that up 
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Is anybody aware of a company or bank that will offer loans over 10 years, for pilots or just in general, of £55,000, secured with a property obviously (of which is worth £135,000), and that comes with holiday period of 18 months or upward. I'm aware these a very niche and rare. BBVA used to provide this service, targeted at future pilots, but it was withdrawn last year.
Our aim is to take out a secured loan over 10 years, against the property, of £55,000,and have the holiday period so that upon completion of the training, you can pay back, at an increased rate because of the holiday, a set amount each month. Alternatively, are there any companies or banks that will allow you to pay reduced amounts back in the 18 months and then upon completion of training increase your payments. And finally, does anybody know of any companies or banks that offer loans and schemes targeted directly at pilots or pilot training. If not, are there any other way of funding these modular courses?
Thank alot,
.Is anybody aware of a company or bank that will offer loans over 10 years, for pilots or just in general, of £55,000, secured with a property obviously (of which is worth £135,000), and that comes with holiday period of 18 months or upward. I'm aware these a very niche and rare. BBVA used to provide this service, targeted at future pilots, but it was withdrawn last year.
Our aim is to take out a secured loan over 10 years, against the property, of £55,000,and have the holiday period so that upon completion of the training, you can pay back, at an increased rate because of the holiday, a set amount each month. Alternatively, are there any companies or banks that will allow you to pay reduced amounts back in the 18 months and then upon completion of training increase your payments. And finally, does anybody know of any companies or banks that offer loans and schemes targeted directly at pilots or pilot training. If not, are there any other way of funding these modular courses?
Thank alot,
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Hours of flight
Hello my friends.After hard working for several years, i am about to join a flight academy in Europe in order to have my ATPL studies.As soon as i am looking for the best school which suits me best i have a decent concern and need your help.
I ve read that after finish school you just have 250h of flying. Airlines require 1500h in order to have an interview. Several schools advertise that their students can find a job directly after their atpl program is over and also have posts with their students get hired from airlines like ryanair etc.
So can you please help me what should i do ?Ithink that in order to reach 1500hours after school cost THOUSANDS of money that cant afford extra. Which academy do you recommend and moreover what is the chances to get a job.
Thank you!
I ve read that after finish school you just have 250h of flying. Airlines require 1500h in order to have an interview. Several schools advertise that their students can find a job directly after their atpl program is over and also have posts with their students get hired from airlines like ryanair etc.
So can you please help me what should i do ?Ithink that in order to reach 1500hours after school cost THOUSANDS of money that cant afford extra. Which academy do you recommend and moreover what is the chances to get a job.
Thank you!
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There’s generally two types of positions advertised. The first is what most will look for, they’re low hour cadet positions like Ryanair.
The other, for example, is like BA who require a certain number of hours (1000hrs as an example) and often on aircraft over a certain weight. BA have their own cadet programme so they would rather take new pilots from there or hire more experienced pilots from other airlines etc.
You should search for low hour pilot jobs and see what they require, then compare that to what your training gets you. Being realistic, nobody is going to finish their training and walk into their local flag carrier unless they’re on a tagged scheme.
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I was just asking/clarifying in reference to the original concerns by Silverds88 above where he thinks he needs to have 1500hrs before an airline interview which I believe is a US requirement but not here in EASA/EU.
1500hrs and an unfrozen ATPL opens a lot of doors if I'm reading stories correctly but that still doesn't mean a low-hour (250hrs) pilot is out of luck, right?
1500hrs and an unfrozen ATPL opens a lot of doors if I'm reading stories correctly but that still doesn't mean a low-hour (250hrs) pilot is out of luck, right?
Be careful of the differences between FAA and EASA.
For EASA multi crew aircraft, you only need a CPL and IR to be a first officer, which you can get with 200 hours (or less if you go integrated).
An ATPL is only required to be a captain. That's when you need 1500 hours (amongst other things). Most airlines want 3-4,000 hours to get a command anyway, so there's no rush..
Plenty of European airlines are hiring people with 200 hours.
For EASA multi crew aircraft, you only need a CPL and IR to be a first officer, which you can get with 200 hours (or less if you go integrated).
An ATPL is only required to be a captain. That's when you need 1500 hours (amongst other things). Most airlines want 3-4,000 hours to get a command anyway, so there's no rush..
Plenty of European airlines are hiring people with 200 hours.
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Modular Training in Hungary
Hi all! I am looking at going down the modular route for my fATPL. I plan on doing PPL, hours building, ATPL theory, CPL, MEP CR & MEP-IR. I will then come back to the UK for MCC/JOT.
Does anyone know if going to a non-UK, cheaper school out in Hungary will have a negative effect on prospects once back in the UK? There is a number of schools near Bp that offer these courses and I plan to go and visit, but I won't really be able to find out what reputation these schools have with UK airlines.
Does anyone know if going to a non-UK, cheaper school out in Hungary will have a negative effect on prospects once back in the UK? There is a number of schools near Bp that offer these courses and I plan to go and visit, but I won't really be able to find out what reputation these schools have with UK airlines.
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Looking for an aviation college
Hi everyone
I'm a Belgium senior high school student. I'm obsessed by aviation and I already got my PLL. My dream is to become a commercial pilot. My goal is to get my ATPL as fast as possible but I would also want a (usefull) university degree as a backup. I'm looking for a college which offers aviation related degrees and doesn't stretch my ATPL training to much. There options are very limited in Belgium so I was thinking about the UK or US but I don't know where to start.
Most my grades are around 70%-75%. Costs and fees aren't a reall issue but the cheaper the better as long as the quality stays the same.
Small sidenote: I don't have my ppl yet but I'm done with my training. I'm now waiting for my 17th birthday to do my exam.
I'm a Belgium senior high school student. I'm obsessed by aviation and I already got my PLL. My dream is to become a commercial pilot. My goal is to get my ATPL as fast as possible but I would also want a (usefull) university degree as a backup. I'm looking for a college which offers aviation related degrees and doesn't stretch my ATPL training to much. There options are very limited in Belgium so I was thinking about the UK or US but I don't know where to start.
Most my grades are around 70%-75%. Costs and fees aren't a reall issue but the cheaper the better as long as the quality stays the same.
Small sidenote: I don't have my ppl yet but I'm done with my training. I'm now waiting for my 17th birthday to do my exam.