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the employment boards, irrelevant of how they got the jobs, show a decent proportion of students getting jobs soon after finishing - before our six months is up anyway...
And also the two guys who went to Lufthansa did not go to the mainline but to Lufthansa Cityline which corresponds to BA Connect. So much about this board.
...they mentioned flybe have been out there 'recently', although how recent 'recently' was i don't know, assume looking at their current situation we're not talking years ago.
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Yes, there were airlines scouting in GYR. Yes, it was a few months ago. No, it hasn't happened since then, but it undoubtedly will happened again. Yes, I do know when.....when those airlines see the need.
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Hi all,
As a recently graduated student, I thought I'd contribute some info regarding Airlines out in GYR as well as an insight on the job front situation. We were out in Phoenix between June and October of last year and during that period, one airline attended Goodyear to have a look around the new facilities, as well as ask a selected number of students (not sure what the criteria was to be “interviewed”, however it was a broad range of people) on a possible future tagging scheme for students, similar to those that operate in FTE, I believe.However, during the remainder of our time out there, we heard nothing more of it, so I’m not sure what the current standpoint is on that.
In terms of jobs, myself and the majority of the course finished OAT mid-late April. I can only think of a couple of guys at present out of the 20 on the course who haven’t got something in the pipeline and, considering the summer period is generally lacklustre, it’s not bad going at all. In fact my flying buddy on MCC had a conditional offer having not even finished the course, while I was extremely fortunate to have a Sim Ride lined up. The Market is buoyant.
Enjoy Phoenix and best of luck with the rest of the course.
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Adios, yep that’s correct. While we were out in PHX, Flybe did discuss starting a potential ‘tagging’ scheme, though I do believe the pre-requisites were a bit more detailed. However, roughly speaking, those you mentioned sound about right, I’m just unsure as to whether any more headway has been made on the Scheme itself; it has been just under a year since they were out there now.
Upon your return from Phoenix, providing you attain an average of 85% in the Ground school Exams, with no more than 2 re-sits I believe, Grade ‘3’s’ or better in your flying tests (and a First Series IRT for a job offer), then you are eligible to be put forward to BA for SSP Selection. This is generally conducted well before the IRT.
Hope that’s of some use
As a recently graduated student, I thought I'd contribute some info regarding Airlines out in GYR as well as an insight on the job front situation. We were out in Phoenix between June and October of last year and during that period, one airline attended Goodyear to have a look around the new facilities, as well as ask a selected number of students (not sure what the criteria was to be “interviewed”, however it was a broad range of people) on a possible future tagging scheme for students, similar to those that operate in FTE, I believe.However, during the remainder of our time out there, we heard nothing more of it, so I’m not sure what the current standpoint is on that.
In terms of jobs, myself and the majority of the course finished OAT mid-late April. I can only think of a couple of guys at present out of the 20 on the course who haven’t got something in the pipeline and, considering the summer period is generally lacklustre, it’s not bad going at all. In fact my flying buddy on MCC had a conditional offer having not even finished the course, while I was extremely fortunate to have a Sim Ride lined up. The Market is buoyant.
Enjoy Phoenix and best of luck with the rest of the course.
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Adios, yep that’s correct. While we were out in PHX, Flybe did discuss starting a potential ‘tagging’ scheme, though I do believe the pre-requisites were a bit more detailed. However, roughly speaking, those you mentioned sound about right, I’m just unsure as to whether any more headway has been made on the Scheme itself; it has been just under a year since they were out there now.
Upon your return from Phoenix, providing you attain an average of 85% in the Ground school Exams, with no more than 2 re-sits I believe, Grade ‘3’s’ or better in your flying tests (and a First Series IRT for a job offer), then you are eligible to be put forward to BA for SSP Selection. This is generally conducted well before the IRT.
Hope that’s of some use
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My info is second hand, so perhaps some of the Oat students can verify it. What I heard was that FlyBE sought students at Goodyear for a tagging scheme for turboprops. One of the criteria was no more than one resat JAR exam. I also heard that not many people were interested. The only other airline I've ever heard of that starts the recruitment of Oat students before they finish the course is BA. Since I know several Oat students who have gotten BA interviews before they completed their IRT and at least one of them had two resits and was recoursed once in ground school, I would say that very few of those eligible under FlyBE's criteria were interested in espousing themselves to FlyBE for turboprop jobs when they could still be in the running for BA. Oat's employment report shows only two graduates to FlyBE in 2007, with 17 to BA and 16 to BA CitiFlyer.
I don't think Lukas statement that the Oat job board shows when Oat alumni change jobs is true. I suspect some graduates take a year or more to find work, so when their name suddenly pops up on the board, it might appear that they have moved to a new job, when it is actually their first one.
I don't think Lukas statement that the Oat job board shows when Oat alumni change jobs is true. I suspect some graduates take a year or more to find work, so when their name suddenly pops up on the board, it might appear that they have moved to a new job, when it is actually their first one.
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I don't think Lukas statement that the Oat job board shows when Oat alumni change jobs is true. I suspect some graduates take a year or more to find work, so when their name suddenly pops up on the board, it might appear that they have moved to a new job, when it is actually their first one.
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I think what Lukas means is that while one airline (Flybe) did visit goodyear once last year to 'scout' out potential employees that was a rarity. It would be false to suggest (as has been) that it is common place for airlines to be in goodyear looking for pilots.
I think it is irresponsible for people, especially employees of oxford to give the impression that airlines (plural) are always in goodyear when they quite clearly are not. All it does is lead to more threads about oxfords misleading marketing etc etc
I think it is irresponsible for people, especially employees of oxford to give the impression that airlines (plural) are always in goodyear when they quite clearly are not. All it does is lead to more threads about oxfords misleading marketing etc etc
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Well, it is true. It is all about money, and for Oxford we're nothing than very good coustomers which Oxford wants to get more of in order to increase it's profits.
And it's not only the thing with the Airlines recruiting (or not) in Goodyear or the fact that people get put on the board when changing to another airline, there are many more things that look so great at the first glimpse but then show to be quite different from what they seem.
And it's not only the thing with the Airlines recruiting (or not) in Goodyear or the fact that people get put on the board when changing to another airline, there are many more things that look so great at the first glimpse but then show to be quite different from what they seem.
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SQWKVFR,
You seem to be a very petty person with very uneducated replies!!
I am an ex OAT graduate and had a very positive time at OAT. This is inpart to my work (and some may say play) ethic.
Some people may have had a different experience to me but to merely say that every FTO has its problems is not enough I'm afraid. OAT in my eyes is and should continue to be the best training provider and keep it eyes firmly on this. You rather niavely talk about that, yeah we're a business, and that profit is what it is all about. Actually this is incorrect........unless you are the side kick of Gordon Brown. I am happy that at best hopefully all you are is an OAT rep......ideally you would not have any ties with OAT atall, sadly this appears to be untrue. You would never hear Anthony talk like this........profit!!! He, being I expect more educated than you, would talk about the more important issues of re-investment in the company and putting together an infrastructure that will see it remain the best FTO in Europe for many years to come. Some of his strategy will of course come from feedback he receives from customers, directly and from these kind of mediums............so let people talk and refrain from your infantile rants.
You seem to be a very petty person with very uneducated replies!!
I am an ex OAT graduate and had a very positive time at OAT. This is inpart to my work (and some may say play) ethic.
Some people may have had a different experience to me but to merely say that every FTO has its problems is not enough I'm afraid. OAT in my eyes is and should continue to be the best training provider and keep it eyes firmly on this. You rather niavely talk about that, yeah we're a business, and that profit is what it is all about. Actually this is incorrect........unless you are the side kick of Gordon Brown. I am happy that at best hopefully all you are is an OAT rep......ideally you would not have any ties with OAT atall, sadly this appears to be untrue. You would never hear Anthony talk like this........profit!!! He, being I expect more educated than you, would talk about the more important issues of re-investment in the company and putting together an infrastructure that will see it remain the best FTO in Europe for many years to come. Some of his strategy will of course come from feedback he receives from customers, directly and from these kind of mediums............so let people talk and refrain from your infantile rants.
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Another story on this:
BBA Aviation, the UK aviation services company, announces that it has agreed to sell its Oxford Aviation Training business ('OAT') to GCAT Flight Academy for GBP 32m in cash. As part of the transaction, BBA will retain cash of approximately GBP 5m as part of the transaction. The transaction will produce an exceptional profit on disposal of around GBP 20m with tax leakage expected to be minimal. Completion is expected to take place within the next two weeks.
OAT, based at Oxford Airport, is one of the world's leading airline pilot training establishments, and has been supplying trained pilots to air operators across the world for over forty years. In the year ended 31 December 2006, OAT had a turnover of GBP 18.5m.
Commenting on the disposal, BBA Aviation's new Chief Executive Simon Pryce said: "I am delighted that Oxford Aviation Training is joining GCAT. GCAT is a market leader in the Pilot Type Rating Training sector and becoming part of a wider training group will be of substantial benefit to the OAT business and its staff, enabling it to consolidate its position in the European market place and beyond.
We are continuing with the process of rationalising our portfolio and the sale of Oxford Aviation Training further increases BBA Aviation's focus on its core Flight Support and Aftermarket Services and Systems activities. The proceeds of the sale will be invested in these core businesses, where we see a number of opportunities for consolidation."
BBA Aviation, the UK aviation services company, announces that it has agreed to sell its Oxford Aviation Training business ('OAT') to GCAT Flight Academy for GBP 32m in cash. As part of the transaction, BBA will retain cash of approximately GBP 5m as part of the transaction. The transaction will produce an exceptional profit on disposal of around GBP 20m with tax leakage expected to be minimal. Completion is expected to take place within the next two weeks.
OAT, based at Oxford Airport, is one of the world's leading airline pilot training establishments, and has been supplying trained pilots to air operators across the world for over forty years. In the year ended 31 December 2006, OAT had a turnover of GBP 18.5m.
Commenting on the disposal, BBA Aviation's new Chief Executive Simon Pryce said: "I am delighted that Oxford Aviation Training is joining GCAT. GCAT is a market leader in the Pilot Type Rating Training sector and becoming part of a wider training group will be of substantial benefit to the OAT business and its staff, enabling it to consolidate its position in the European market place and beyond.
We are continuing with the process of rationalising our portfolio and the sale of Oxford Aviation Training further increases BBA Aviation's focus on its core Flight Support and Aftermarket Services and Systems activities. The proceeds of the sale will be invested in these core businesses, where we see a number of opportunities for consolidation."
