View Poll Results: Type rating?
Bought Type rating - got the job
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66.67%
Bought Type rating - told "need time on type"
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16.67%
You were told buy the type and get the job - but did not get a job offer anyway
1
16.67%
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Type Rating - which type, where, why pay etc?
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I dont see many 737NG in "Europe"( Maybe im getting blind ). But i do see heaps of Airbuses.
If what you mentioned above is your only options, then the B737 would be the better choice.
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I am not limited to these types but a friend of mine has just completed an A300 rating hoping to find work and I'm wondering if this is a good move or to fly another type if it gives a better chance to get a post. I am keeping an eye on his progress. I would concider corporate jets, regional jets anything, but I need to get good advice on where to train and reasoned advice on why one type is better than another.
Nobody has been kind enough yet to say I'm not old at 42. Great!
Nobody has been kind enough yet to say I'm not old at 42. Great!
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If you are willing to go the route of a type rsting then you must choose one according to your objective, if you are going corporate there is no need for an Airbus or Boeing type rating, if you want to go the the airlines then either an Airbus or Boeing TR would be suitable.
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The sensible money has got to be on 73NG/319/320. What with EZY and Ryanair purchasing heaps of them and those are the sort of companies you may well expect to land your first job.
You're not old, but age is not on your side either (is it for anybody over 21?!). You may be better placed going for a turbo rating from which your realistic chances of gaining employment compared to a jet job will probably be greater. From there you can build your hours to a few thousand and then be well placed for jet employment by the time you're 45!
You're not old, but age is not on your side either (is it for anybody over 21?!). You may be better placed going for a turbo rating from which your realistic chances of gaining employment compared to a jet job will probably be greater. From there you can build your hours to a few thousand and then be well placed for jet employment by the time you're 45!
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Why not complete all four ratings ?
It would probably be a better idea to complete all four ratings to increase your options rather than just limiting yourself to a 737 for example. You made need to check with the CAA though, I think there may be a limit to the amount of multi crew types you can have on your licence at any one time.
It would probably be a better idea to complete all four ratings to increase your options rather than just limiting yourself to a 737 for example. You made need to check with the CAA though, I think there may be a limit to the amount of multi crew types you can have on your licence at any one time.
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i like Sally Cinnamons idea - genius!
why not do a type rating for every aeroplane and keep your options open? or maybe you could buy your own airline??
Sally, i had a look at your profile sweetheart.....you'd have to do a lot of lap-dancing to pay for 4 type ratings!!
A320 is fairly prolific, perhaps you could get some stats on how many of each type are around to help you make the right decision - CAA? EASA? BALPA? (but apply some judgment also). good luck whatever you do mate!
cheers kk
why not do a type rating for every aeroplane and keep your options open? or maybe you could buy your own airline??
Sally, i had a look at your profile sweetheart.....you'd have to do a lot of lap-dancing to pay for 4 type ratings!!
A320 is fairly prolific, perhaps you could get some stats on how many of each type are around to help you make the right decision - CAA? EASA? BALPA? (but apply some judgment also). good luck whatever you do mate!
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Good Idea KK,
I will get started on the stats and look at Airline fleet requirements for the foreseeable future.
Mind you who can tell the future (9/11-SARS-terrorism etc etc)
Thanks Mate.
Jimbo
I will get started on the stats and look at Airline fleet requirements for the foreseeable future.
Mind you who can tell the future (9/11-SARS-terrorism etc etc)
Thanks Mate.
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Type Ratings (yet again)
This subject has been covered before, and before anyway says ¡§do a search¡¨ ¡V I have!
I¡¦m only looking for actual facts (or directions to were I can obtain ACTUAL FACTS) - not all the negatives/positives or abuse/bitching that these posts tend to generate.
Ok now that¡¦s out of the way I hope this will be a useful post for me as well as all the other people asking the same question.
Type Ratings (Again)¡K.
I¡¦m very seriously considering getting a rating in a 737 (if my bank manager is having a good day that is).
Just for info:
I¡¦ve applied to places such as Ryanair (through their schools) but no response as of yet. If you didn¡¦t already know the Application form for CAE/GECAT is very very basic with no real useful info for the school to see if you¡¦re a good pilot or a bad pilot or what. I know that one guy I trained with has a selection day with GECAT, but he struggled with the course and needed extra time and had to redo the ME test IR. I (and many others) had no problems what-so-ever and haven¡¦t been given the chance with Ryanair ¡V So it seems it¡¦s just luck whether or not you get an invite for selection. Correct me if I¡¦m wrong.
Right now for the Questions ¡V and hopefully some answers (or constructive advice).
CAE, Global Aviation Solutions, Astraeus (without selection through GAS). These are 3 I¡¦m thinking about. But that¡¦s only because I can¡¦t find any others. GECAT don¡¦t want my money ¡V busy with the airlines I think, and the rest are in the USA.
Anyone been through these TRTOs? Any job offer¡¦s after you have the words ¡§737 Type Rated¡¨ on your CV?
What pre-study is required or of help (i.e. any good books or websites etc)? I spoke to CAE and they said it¡¦s not needed. But it¡¦s a lot of money and I want to make sure that I do everything to get the most out of it. Don¡¦t want it to be too much of a ¡§crash course¡¨. (Sorry about that)
Would Ryanair have preference for CAE Type Rated pilots rather than Astraeus (with 100hrs on type) ¡V I know that they will obviously take on the selected guys first (when it comes to just the basic rating at CAE or Astraeus ) but if I did fork out yet more cash for 100hrs (or even 2,3,4 or 500 hrs) would that better the chances?
GAS ¡V the assessment, what is involved? Sim check, psychometric, verbal, maths, sewing what..?? Also CAE and Astraeus ¡V what¡¦s there assessment tests like?
Any ideas for preparation? Anyone know any places for cheap time in FNPT2s? (I¡¦m in Reading, near London).
Do you need to have a BASE CHECK before the have an actual rating? What companies do this? For example, could I go to BA and ask if I could borrow a 737 for an hour? (Maybe 2 hours, for a bit of fun ļ )
Anyone reading this already have a Type Rating but with no job? How many hours do you have? Where/when did you get the rating? Etc
Thanks for any help.
Sam
I¡¦m only looking for actual facts (or directions to were I can obtain ACTUAL FACTS) - not all the negatives/positives or abuse/bitching that these posts tend to generate.
Ok now that¡¦s out of the way I hope this will be a useful post for me as well as all the other people asking the same question.
Type Ratings (Again)¡K.
I¡¦m very seriously considering getting a rating in a 737 (if my bank manager is having a good day that is).
Just for info:
I¡¦ve applied to places such as Ryanair (through their schools) but no response as of yet. If you didn¡¦t already know the Application form for CAE/GECAT is very very basic with no real useful info for the school to see if you¡¦re a good pilot or a bad pilot or what. I know that one guy I trained with has a selection day with GECAT, but he struggled with the course and needed extra time and had to redo the ME test IR. I (and many others) had no problems what-so-ever and haven¡¦t been given the chance with Ryanair ¡V So it seems it¡¦s just luck whether or not you get an invite for selection. Correct me if I¡¦m wrong.
Right now for the Questions ¡V and hopefully some answers (or constructive advice).
CAE, Global Aviation Solutions, Astraeus (without selection through GAS). These are 3 I¡¦m thinking about. But that¡¦s only because I can¡¦t find any others. GECAT don¡¦t want my money ¡V busy with the airlines I think, and the rest are in the USA.
Anyone been through these TRTOs? Any job offer¡¦s after you have the words ¡§737 Type Rated¡¨ on your CV?
What pre-study is required or of help (i.e. any good books or websites etc)? I spoke to CAE and they said it¡¦s not needed. But it¡¦s a lot of money and I want to make sure that I do everything to get the most out of it. Don¡¦t want it to be too much of a ¡§crash course¡¨. (Sorry about that)
Would Ryanair have preference for CAE Type Rated pilots rather than Astraeus (with 100hrs on type) ¡V I know that they will obviously take on the selected guys first (when it comes to just the basic rating at CAE or Astraeus ) but if I did fork out yet more cash for 100hrs (or even 2,3,4 or 500 hrs) would that better the chances?
GAS ¡V the assessment, what is involved? Sim check, psychometric, verbal, maths, sewing what..?? Also CAE and Astraeus ¡V what¡¦s there assessment tests like?
Any ideas for preparation? Anyone know any places for cheap time in FNPT2s? (I¡¦m in Reading, near London).
Do you need to have a BASE CHECK before the have an actual rating? What companies do this? For example, could I go to BA and ask if I could borrow a 737 for an hour? (Maybe 2 hours, for a bit of fun ļ )
Anyone reading this already have a Type Rating but with no job? How many hours do you have? Where/when did you get the rating? Etc
Thanks for any help.
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Type rating with or without a multirating?
G'day,
Just wondering if someone can tell me a bit more about getting a JAA typerating such as the 767? I currently hold a UK JAA SEP IR and would like to know if it is necessary to have a JAA multi rating? Is it possible to get away with just holding an ICAO multirating? How hard is it to organise to do the multirating at the same time as doing lets say a 767 rating?
Look forward to reading your replies.
Cheers.
Just wondering if someone can tell me a bit more about getting a JAA typerating such as the 767? I currently hold a UK JAA SEP IR and would like to know if it is necessary to have a JAA multi rating? Is it possible to get away with just holding an ICAO multirating? How hard is it to organise to do the multirating at the same time as doing lets say a 767 rating?
Look forward to reading your replies.
Cheers.
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Zair
I know that if you want to do a type rating on a multi crew aircraft such as the 767 you will require an MCC certificate.
Now to do the MCC course on a multi engine/ multi crew aircraft the training provider will require you to have a current multi/ir on your licence.
Not sure if this has all changed but this was my experience.
Regards
I know that if you want to do a type rating on a multi crew aircraft such as the 767 you will require an MCC certificate.
Now to do the MCC course on a multi engine/ multi crew aircraft the training provider will require you to have a current multi/ir on your licence.
Not sure if this has all changed but this was my experience.
Regards
Pre-requisite conditions for training for a multi-pilot type rating are given at JAR-FCL 1.250. Paragraph (a)(2) states "have a valid multi-engine instrument rating (A)". JAR-FCL 1.005(a)(2) states "Whenever licences, ratings, authorisations, approvals or certificates are mentioned in JAR–FCL, these are meant to be licences, ratings, authorisations, approvals or certificates issued in accordance with JAR–FCL."
Therefore, you must hold a multi-engine IR(A) issued in accordance with JAR-FCL before commencing training for a multi-pilot type rating. An ICAO IR will not do and you cannot do the JAA IR at the same time as the MPA type rating.
Therefore, you must hold a multi-engine IR(A) issued in accordance with JAR-FCL before commencing training for a multi-pilot type rating. An ICAO IR will not do and you cannot do the JAA IR at the same time as the MPA type rating.
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Billiebob is correct in stating that a current MIR is q requirement to commence a type rating for a multi crew a/c. Interestingly it doesn't have to be current till the end of the typr course in that it can expire after the commencement of the course.
Fuelxfeed, not sure if MCC is required to commence type course as many TRTOs offer MCC included with type??
rgds,
GP.
Fuelxfeed, not sure if MCC is required to commence type course as many TRTOs offer MCC included with type??
rgds,
GP.
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Well, a quick online search turned up SimCenter in FL, not sure if you want an FAA type. Even if you do, if you look at the price (nearly TWENTY thousand dollars) you'll probably decide against it. A different website in the same search said that they were one of only two schools offering the EMB 145 ratings. Hope you have better luck in Europe.
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Swiss Aviation Training offers type-rating courses on the E145, starts twice a year. Check out their website.
BTW They also offer E170 TR "on request"... guess, they don't need the sim for themselves for a while...
BTW They also offer E170 TR "on request"... guess, they don't need the sim for themselves for a while...
TJ - Assuming from your location that you want a JAA type rating then your options (according to the latest information on the JAA website) are:
Luxair
Swiss International
BA City Express
BMI Regional
These are the only organisations to hold JAA approval for the 145, Flight Safety can only train for FAA type ratings at present.
Luxair
Swiss International
BA City Express
BMI Regional
These are the only organisations to hold JAA approval for the 145, Flight Safety can only train for FAA type ratings at present.