ATPL Ground study material: books, DVDs, computer programs etc.
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Bristol, Bristol, Bristol!
Your teachers will tell you that they have all the questions and you don't need Bristol, they lie!
I'm no genius and just scored 100%, 96% and 84% in my first three exams. All thanks to Bristol!
Fon
Your teachers will tell you that they have all the questions and you don't need Bristol, they lie!
I'm no genius and just scored 100%, 96% and 84% in my first three exams. All thanks to Bristol!
Fon
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Nothing much has changed in the ATPL's since I first ordered my manuals quite a few years ago now (they gathered dust for a good year or so before I pulled finger!). It is all down to the quality of the feedback that the schools have and always has been. I remember a mate of mine struggling through with a small school, he was working his butt off and missing the odd exam with low 70's. He commented that he just hadn't seen so many of the questions and in the more technical exams like MET he didn't even know where to start to go about answering them as he just wasn't taught these areas. The CAA are constantly updating the CQB and unfortunately more and more questions are only "loosely" falling within the learning objectives. I remember one MET question that got queried about 4 months ago which the CAA had to refer to a obscure Swedish MET textbook as their defence for having the question in. Hence the need for something like the Bristol database to help get you over that last 10% or so in the exams.
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ATPL Ground School study material: books, DVD etc.
No doubt this has been covered, however I need to write my FAA ATP written test within a week can anybody give me any crash course advice as to what is the best book out there. Is this written fairly straight forward? I know its online down in Farnborough I think. help
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I'm sitting my IR and CPL tests in Farnborough this Tuesday... used the faatest.com software and backed it up with the ASA books. Will let you know if the formula worked. I only had a week to study too!
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PPL Confuser - ATPL exams
Anyone else use the PPL confuser and really regret it?
I used it in Florida as i found it hard to study for all the exams within the three weeks. Regret doing it now however as I will be starting the ATPLs distance learning soon. I reckon its highly likely i will struggle since I didn't cover all the subjects properly. I relied on it heavily for Nav and Met.
Has this happened anyone else? Will it be possible to keep up?
Thanks,
HJ
I used it in Florida as i found it hard to study for all the exams within the three weeks. Regret doing it now however as I will be starting the ATPLs distance learning soon. I reckon its highly likely i will struggle since I didn't cover all the subjects properly. I relied on it heavily for Nav and Met.
Has this happened anyone else? Will it be possible to keep up?
Thanks,
HJ
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The best thing to do is to read the text book for the subjects you are studying at the time and then after a good understanding use the confuser or any other question banks as just an aid to revision. Not a first choice to learning.
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I agree. The confuser will get you to pass the exams. But will not give you the knowledge.
Having said that, some of the questions in the papers test your ability to read and decifer the question, more than actually testing your knowledge.
Passing the exam doesn't mean you know it all. The confuser will take you through, and there's nothing wrong with improving your knowledge even after you've passed the test.
Having said that, some of the questions in the papers test your ability to read and decifer the question, more than actually testing your knowledge.
Passing the exam doesn't mean you know it all. The confuser will take you through, and there's nothing wrong with improving your knowledge even after you've passed the test.
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Are you serious? You intend to use the PPL Confuser to help you with your ATPL studies? Please tell me this is a joke...
You will be given the appropriate study material by your Ground School. Use it, together with any online question bank and brush-up courses they may offer. Do not use PPL study material for the ATPL. You are hoping to be a professional. Start acting like one.
Scroggs
You will be given the appropriate study material by your Ground School. Use it, together with any online question bank and brush-up courses they may offer. Do not use PPL study material for the ATPL. You are hoping to be a professional. Start acting like one.
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Looks like I have been misunderstood.
Scroggs, I certainly have no intention of using the confuser for the ATPL exams. My point was, I relied heavily on it for the PPL exams and might struggle now when I begin studying.
Turned into a crap thread anyway but I was just hoping to hear from someone in my situation as I noticed a good few people just getting through with the confuser.
HJ.
Scroggs, I certainly have no intention of using the confuser for the ATPL exams. My point was, I relied heavily on it for the PPL exams and might struggle now when I begin studying.
Turned into a crap thread anyway but I was just hoping to hear from someone in my situation as I noticed a good few people just getting through with the confuser.
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You shouldn't have too much problems, if you only used the confuser.
The notes I'm using for the ATPL's seem to start off at an "intro level" for the first few pages before going into more detail as you progress.
I'm sure all the notes from the various would be similar, get everybody at the same level before the
stuff appears.
D'OHnt worry about it Homer Jay
The notes I'm using for the ATPL's seem to start off at an "intro level" for the first few pages before going into more detail as you progress.
I'm sure all the notes from the various would be similar, get everybody at the same level before the
stuff appears.D'OHnt worry about it Homer Jay
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As some of the replys mention above, dont worry too much at this stage. as long as you are prepared to put the study in, most of the ATPL theory books provide detailed explanations from the view of a zero hour student. Some are far more detailed than others (the Oxford books i used were very detailed), i have heard the Bristol books tell you what you need to know. Dont rush, if you need longer on a certain subject, then do so, and learn as much as you can. There is a database to help you with the exams available, but you cant fly commercially on the back of a database.its many many hours of study and sacrafice.
There are also CBT disks available produced by Oxford if you need to brush up on Maths including trig, Nav and physics ect.Use all the resources at your disposal to help you.
Good Luck!
There are also CBT disks available produced by Oxford if you need to brush up on Maths including trig, Nav and physics ect.Use all the resources at your disposal to help you.
Good Luck!
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Your situation is by no means uncommon. In fact the vast majority of students starting JAR ATPL(A) modular couses have learned virtually nothing from their PPL theoretical knowledge studies. This just makes it more difficult for them to get to grips with the ATPL material.
The good news is the fact that you appear to have recognised your error. Now providing you do your best to learn and understand as much as you can from your ATPL course, no permanent damage will have been done.
Unfortunately a small proportion of students carry the "just learn the answers" approach on to their ATPL studies. In most cases this does not prevent them from passing the exams, but they gain nothing more from the process.
You should try to learn and understand as much as you can from your ATPL course. Some of the material is over the top, but much of it will be useful in developing a wider understanding of your chosen career.
Past students sometimes ring to tell me about their interviews and type rating courses. They often comment on how much of the apparently irelevant material from their course proved to be very relevant. Curiously enough I have never had such a call from the small group who have concentrated on learning only the answers to the exam questions.
The good news is the fact that you appear to have recognised your error. Now providing you do your best to learn and understand as much as you can from your ATPL course, no permanent damage will have been done.
Unfortunately a small proportion of students carry the "just learn the answers" approach on to their ATPL studies. In most cases this does not prevent them from passing the exams, but they gain nothing more from the process.
You should try to learn and understand as much as you can from your ATPL course. Some of the material is over the top, but much of it will be useful in developing a wider understanding of your chosen career.
Past students sometimes ring to tell me about their interviews and type rating courses. They often comment on how much of the apparently irelevant material from their course proved to be very relevant. Curiously enough I have never had such a call from the small group who have concentrated on learning only the answers to the exam questions.
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Thanks to all above, the feedback has been very helpful. This was one of the problems with me commencing the course especially distance learning but the advice has been reassuring. Lesson learned anyway from the PPL exams will know better when i begin the ATPL's.
Just a quick note for anyone thinking of using it, no point in telling yourself you will study the books when you get home because you wont.
Cheers,
HJ
Just a quick note for anyone thinking of using it, no point in telling yourself you will study the books when you get home because you wont.
Cheers,
HJ
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ATPL Course Prep
Hello all,
Sorry if this has been answered before but I tried the search and got little info!!
Im off to NAC in Florida in Jan to do their Full time ATPL theory course. I Currently have a PPL with 120 hrs.
Since I now have a couple of months before I head off, is there any form of Prep that i can start studying before Heading off? I have a few Theory books that i picked up along the line and I have been looking through them. Is there any other info i can start preparing for?
Many thanks
Sorry if this has been answered before but I tried the search and got little info!!
Im off to NAC in Florida in Jan to do their Full time ATPL theory course. I Currently have a PPL with 120 hrs.
Since I now have a couple of months before I head off, is there any form of Prep that i can start studying before Heading off? I have a few Theory books that i picked up along the line and I have been looking through them. Is there any other info i can start preparing for?
Many thanks