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Old 3rd Jan 2006, 12:53
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Which school?

Hi all,

After months of deliberation I am inches away from choosing a training provider and starting me modular ATPL.
Basically, how important is the choice of school for this in the eyes of the airlines? I understand that certain integrated providers in the UK may have a relationship with airlines which allow their students to potentially get jobs sooner, is this also the case with modular course providers?

My particular dilema lies between choosing the CABAIR mod course at Orlando/ Bournemouth, or the course at Stapleford Flight Centre in Essex. From what I can make out the Stapleford course is on paper better than the cabair one, using better planes, more cost effective with all the hours building in the UK, not the US. My only doubt is the claims form Cabair that they can recommend me direct to airlines after completing the course, where as Stapleford apparently do not have such links.

Are such "airline relationships" a reality for modular students, or are they just a carrot on a stick to get students? Does anyone out there have first hand experience of being put forward to an airline after finishing a mod course at one of the big training providers?
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Old 3rd Jan 2006, 13:48
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Re: How important is choice of modular school in the eyes of airlines?

I did some flying (PA28) over with Stapleford awhile back and loved it, the prices at the time were resonable and i enjoyed very much the atmosphere.

Airlines and modular, well you will find different views to this question, but the fact is that airlines do hire modulars and integrated if they prefer one or the other that i cannot answer.

Good luck with your choice.
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Old 29th Mar 2006, 22:03
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flying school recomendations

hi just wondering what flying schools people would recommend, theres the obvious cranfield and oxford but if i'm going to pay for it then i fancy going abroad!

Had a look at riverside in oklahoma and american school of aviation anyone got any feedback on them?

I hear there a few in spain too? any names?

thanks
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Old 30th Mar 2006, 08:53
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Please try using the search facility. Also read this thread.

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Old 13th Apr 2006, 19:16
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Oh scroggs, you and your search facility, anything for the easy life eh old boy!
He repeats that phrase above about two hundred times a day and although he his right and there is lots of good information that can be found by searching for it, you have chosen to ask. I respect that as it makes any advice more personable and let's face it, you are about to spend a lot of money!
I can't give you much advice outside the scope of Riverside. I am training with them and they impress me more everyday I'm there!
Give them a call in their English office and see if you like what they have to offer, I'm sure that you will!
P.M. me if you have any further question, another guy who went there is a gentleman who goes by the handle WX MAN he helped me make up my mind to go there. (incidently WXman yuri keeps promising me some hillarious stories of your antics, but as yet he has failed to deliver, you sound like a man after my own heart).
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Old 14th Apr 2006, 11:31
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Originally Posted by D'vay
Oh scroggs, you and your search facility, anything for the easy life eh old boy!
He repeats that phrase above about two hundred times a day and although he his right and there is lots of good information that can be found by searching for it, you have chosen to ask. I respect that as it makes any advice more personable and let's face it, you are about to spend a lot of money!
Theres a reason he posts that answer every time. Those threads have a wealth of information in there. All of the questions could easily be answered from there, theres threads on the various major flight schools out there and more and as you read through them you'll find many references to other schools. Then all you need is Google and you'll be able to look up the websites of all the different places and you're already half way there.

If people took the time to read through those (which 9 out of 10 don't) they would be able to ask much better and insightful questions which would be more useful to them and people would be able to give much more useful answers as a result.

[Not a rant towards you captain_murray just explaining why the sticky threads are there for good reason and should be made use of rather than rehashing the same subjects every month]
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Old 14th Apr 2006, 12:26
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I agree. My tongue was in my cheek with regards to the comment directed striaght to scroggs. However, I stand by what I said regarding a personal answer. If you don't wish to spend time answering another's query then don't my friend, only sometimes, I like to put out a good word for the guy's that trained me. I choose my school as a result of some encouraging words from WXMAN. If I had have searched the site, no doubt I'd have felt that the goal was a little less achieveable for the money that I had. The best advice I can give to anybody is do a residential PPL and in that time you will get so much advice and information that you'll leave four weeks later knowing about all you can about the various licences and ratings and where best to complete these and how long it will take.
I am passionate about seeing others suceed at this and if I see a question and I have time to answer it then I will. I wish not to offend anyone here, especially not you scroggs. Friends?
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Old 14th Apr 2006, 12:40
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Apologies if I shot my mouth of a bit earlier. You're reply was helpful and well intentioned. I'm certainly not against helping people! (not least because I have had a lot of help myself from others!) I'm not really in the position of being a great help to others having not started my training, yet, but I do appreciate those who have and can pass the advice on.

I just remember when I started looking at these forums, it took me many months reading through old threads and just soaking up the wealth of information about training to be a pilot and the industry as a whole and also watching the discussions come and go and come back again. It was only then that I felt able to start posting and know that I had a question worth asking.

But then I know each person is different in that respect and don't wish to say people have to do it that way!
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Old 14th Apr 2006, 12:55
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No need to apologise wazzoo. Are you going to get some training done? Please do, it would sure beat being 40 and working for a bank. You can do a PPL for only 5000 and whatever you do for a living you can raise that in as little as six months!
Good luck
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Old 15th Apr 2006, 02:34
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Originally Posted by D'vay
No need to apologise wazzoo. Are you going to get some training done? Please do, it would sure beat being 40 and working for a bank. You can do a PPL for only 5000 and whatever you do for a living you can raise that in as little as six months!
Good luck
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Thanks for the comments D'vay.

Hope to start this Sept/Nov, going for my fATPL. As you say, I don't want to end up behind a desk..but its a steep hill to climb to get there. I Hope I can come through it with some good stories to tell and helpful advice for others.
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Guys, don't worry! Firstly I have a fairly thick hide, and secondly I can usually spot irony and tongue-in-cheek remarks at several paces!

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Old 18th May 2006, 11:24
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Question What school with 35.000???

Hi to everyone,
probably you're already so tired of my questions... But doubts come over and over again... It's just because of all the threads I see in this forum, I never come to a final decision and conclusion!!!
If anyone would like to answer me, I would really appreciate it... Thanks in advance...

Finally I got the loan, with the help of my parents, of 50.000 Euros, which is about 35.000 pounds...

I really NEED to do my ATPL course... I've been waiting for so much time that now I can't just wait any more!

Options are:

- Stapleford (main one!!! )
- USA accelerated schools (and then come here to convert... )
- Work a bit more and save for another school such as Oxford, CTC or Cabair (sounds intresting, but I'll need to work a few years more to get the money... and I woun't like to wait so long... But if it worths it... )

Any advice is welcome... And I'm REALLY sorry for all these questions, guys... Thanks SO much for the help you always gave me...

Bye, Allioth
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Old 18th May 2006, 15:29
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Allioth

Have you had a good look at the CTC scheme? I don't know if you understand the financial set up - if you are entering as a cadet with little experience you don't need to have X amount of thousands in the bank as the loan will be sorted for you. If you are dead set on getting the blue book and working for an airline, it is worth applying before you borrow lots of money.

I think the best course of action would be to make a decision on where/with whom to do your training and then sort out finance, rather than borrowing a ball park sum speculatively.
From reading your post I am thinking you have already borrowed cash and are now trying to decide on which training provider to go to. Is that the situation?
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Old 19th May 2006, 16:38
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Allioth

You could have a look at www.get-flying.com
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Old 20th May 2006, 08:19
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you could have a look at finland, there is one called bf lento here:

http://www.kolumbus.fi/bf-lento/

The full atpl costs 53,000€
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Old 21st May 2006, 09:40
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Hi,

You could also take a look at Greece. www.egnatia-aviation.com

Their courses include all exam and licence fees ect, and also accomodation!

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Old 27th Jun 2006, 18:54
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Which school?

Hey all,
im nearly finished my PPL in florida. IM ijn university at thre mo but I want to do an ATPL on graduation (3 Years). Ive looked into most of the big flight schools in europe, Oxford, Jerez, SAS in sweden etc and I was wondering if any one has experience of these schools ciouold you let me know how you got on. I know I have plenty of time but picking a flightschool that offers value for money and decent employment prospects takes a bit of work.

Cheers
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Old 27th Jun 2006, 19:56
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hi there,
i have visted oxford for there semniars, let me tell u, they are higly professional, they no what there talking about, but one thing, two expensive you will spend around 60,000 in total

i have viste Cabair, well they dont give that glamary feature that oxford had but still they can get the job done, this summer i wil viste spain but no way iam i going to sas or any other training schools.

doesnt matter what school you go to the end result is the same a jet job, your first job will alway be the hardest, same every where

good luck
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Old 27th Jun 2006, 21:15
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Hey Hamil000
Tahnks for the reply. Is there something wrong with SAS standards or why do you seem against them?? Just wondering, nothing against you by the way
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Old 27th Jun 2006, 21:51
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Two things: Archive Reference Threads - READ BEFORE YOU POST A QUESTION!, and the wonderful Search facility.

They're very useful.

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