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Who would you choose?
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There`s a load of threads on here about various FTO offering this,that and the other. I have the funding for a JAA integrated course and so far have the following in mind:
1)FTE
2)NEAR AS (given my current location)
3) Westerm Autralian Aviation
I`m 29 and need to think about after course prospects, also hold a JAA PPL so that may knock a few k off the price!
Just wondering how you`d rank those and maybe throw anyone else in there while you`re at it (OAT etc).
There`s a load of threads on here about various FTO offering this,that and the other. I have the funding for a JAA integrated course and so far have the following in mind:
1)FTE
2)NEAR AS (given my current location)
3) Westerm Autralian Aviation
I`m 29 and need to think about after course prospects, also hold a JAA PPL so that may knock a few k off the price!
Just wondering how you`d rank those and maybe throw anyone else in there while you`re at it (OAT etc).
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Hi
Out of the ones you have chosen FTE sounds the best! I haven’t heard much about the other two though!!
Also like Alex said try cabair and CTC as well as Oxford! Or if you’re looking for a good structured mod course there’s Stapleford flight centre in the UK!! But the main ones for Integrated in the UK are Oxford and Cabair, and the best one outside the UK would have to be FTE!
For jobs afterwards, Oxford and FTE are very good at placing their graduates with airlines!! CTC you will most likely be assigned and airline why you are still training but as with every course they don’t offer definite jobs!!! CTC is by far the hardest of the selections to complete, with only a very very small % meting the standard!
As far as rebates go for holding a PPL I am unaware of any integrated course that will give you an hours reduction! Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong!!
Have a look on various school websites, there is normally information on where their grads have gone etc….
Best of luck with your decisions it’s going to be a tough one!!
Out of the ones you have chosen FTE sounds the best! I haven’t heard much about the other two though!!
Also like Alex said try cabair and CTC as well as Oxford! Or if you’re looking for a good structured mod course there’s Stapleford flight centre in the UK!! But the main ones for Integrated in the UK are Oxford and Cabair, and the best one outside the UK would have to be FTE!
For jobs afterwards, Oxford and FTE are very good at placing their graduates with airlines!! CTC you will most likely be assigned and airline why you are still training but as with every course they don’t offer definite jobs!!! CTC is by far the hardest of the selections to complete, with only a very very small % meting the standard!
As far as rebates go for holding a PPL I am unaware of any integrated course that will give you an hours reduction! Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong!!
Have a look on various school websites, there is normally information on where their grads have gone etc….
Best of luck with your decisions it’s going to be a tough one!!
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If you have a PPL, I think OAT and FTE will reduce the course by 20hrs. There will be no cash saving as a PPL is 45hrs. Also you may not fit in as well if the rest of class are 0 hours. My advice do not do PPL before an integrated course!!!
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It`s too late. I have a PPL and around 65TT so still very fresh. Personal circumstances and age are making an Integrated course the way to go - I can self fund and have no debt at the end of it....(albeit my life savings would have gone, but you can`t take it with you!).
I`ll check out CTC as well, thanks. I like the look of FTW and WAAC - although there isn`t any feedback from the latter on the first lot of intake.
I`ll check out CTC as well, thanks. I like the look of FTW and WAAC - although there isn`t any feedback from the latter on the first lot of intake.
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Hi,
I know loads of people who have taken the integrated route with a PPL even close to the 100hrs mark!
You will be able to pick things up a lot quicker and progress faster then the students with less hours but it is not a stopper to starting an integrated course!
I know loads of people who have taken the integrated route with a PPL even close to the 100hrs mark!
You will be able to pick things up a lot quicker and progress faster then the students with less hours but it is not a stopper to starting an integrated course!
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With regards to PPL and Integrated, i noticed that some integrated courses, mainly the airline sponsored ones will not take ppl's with hours over 60-hours. This was the case with the FlyBe and Cabair deal. I was going to do my PPL but then decided against it as not only are there some restrictions with some schemes, but i was also told by one of these FTO's that it defeats the object of "Integrated" as you have done 25% of it out of there controlled and continous environment.
Integrated is the way i will go, it fits my needs and my situation at present, this may chance and Modular become the option though. I have decided i will go, OAT, FTE, CAT and if i fail all three, i must not be pilot material right now.
Integrated is the way i will go, it fits my needs and my situation at present, this may chance and Modular become the option though. I have decided i will go, OAT, FTE, CAT and if i fail all three, i must not be pilot material right now.
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Which flying school?!
I'm planning to start an intergrated self funded JAA ATPL couse early next year.
I will probably go to Cabair, Oxford or FTE. I've been looking at all their websites and I am visitng all three in the next few weeks. Does anyone on here have advice on which is better to go for, I obvioulsy get differing opinions from everyone I ask, but all suggestions / info is useful. I guess one of my aims is quick employment at the end of training.
I was planning to wait until Easter or early Summer, but my current employer is the process of being bought sold off (any guesses who I work for), therefore I will lose my job, so I'm moving things on a bit more quickly.
Many thanks
I will probably go to Cabair, Oxford or FTE. I've been looking at all their websites and I am visitng all three in the next few weeks. Does anyone on here have advice on which is better to go for, I obvioulsy get differing opinions from everyone I ask, but all suggestions / info is useful. I guess one of my aims is quick employment at the end of training.
I was planning to wait until Easter or early Summer, but my current employer is the process of being bought sold off (any guesses who I work for), therefore I will lose my job, so I'm moving things on a bit more quickly.
Many thanks
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In your opinion, the best flying school is.......
Hi everyone 
Im brand new to these boards and i am just intruiged to see what people's opinions are for the best flying school. The sort of criteria im looking for are: quality of teaching, value for money, structure of course etc etc. I am in my first year at uni currently and have wanted to become a pilot for the last 12 years. I have always been actively researching the flying schools and recentely attended a seminar by FTE which was very interesting. Im planning on going down to Oxford soon as well as seeing what CTC McAlpine has to offer. So what are people's opinons/experiences of the training that the schools have to offer, thanks in advance for any replies to this thread!!!!
Oh yeah, im really happy as today i passed my Class 2 medical!!!! Not a big deal to some but it is to me as i know that my career lies in aviation one way or the other, so i am very chuffed!
Im brand new to these boards and i am just intruiged to see what people's opinions are for the best flying school. The sort of criteria im looking for are: quality of teaching, value for money, structure of course etc etc. I am in my first year at uni currently and have wanted to become a pilot for the last 12 years. I have always been actively researching the flying schools and recentely attended a seminar by FTE which was very interesting. Im planning on going down to Oxford soon as well as seeing what CTC McAlpine has to offer. So what are people's opinons/experiences of the training that the schools have to offer, thanks in advance for any replies to this thread!!!!
Oh yeah, im really happy as today i passed my Class 2 medical!!!! Not a big deal to some but it is to me as i know that my career lies in aviation one way or the other, so i am very chuffed!
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Not a big name but I did all my training with Airways Flight Training down in Exeter. Obviously got nothing to compare it to but have nothing but good words to say about them. Do a search on here and you will only find positive feedback. Great price, great airfield and great instructors. Take a look!
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Wolverhampton vs. Aeros vs. BCT???
Unable to find posts on these three. Would be interested in any feedback from former CPL students, with potential of IR. Narrowed it down to these three.
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Wolverhampton Flight Centre
Aeros Staverton/Gloucester
BCT? Do you mean Bournemouth College of Flight Training (BCFT)?
Everything is there for he who searches.
scroggs
Aeros Staverton/Gloucester
BCT? Do you mean Bournemouth College of Flight Training (BCFT)?
Everything is there for he who searches.
scroggs
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Full Time Everything for under £30k??
Dear All,
Easy question.. I think (although struggling to find all the answers I need through the search option)
I have a PPL with 191 hrs TT.
Q) Can anyone suggest a school offering residential ME CPL/IR AND ATPL ground school + exams within a time frame of 5 months and a budget of £30k (to include all fees and accommodation) ??? Happy to go abroad as long as JAA.
Many thanks. MFWF
Easy question.. I think (although struggling to find all the answers I need through the search option)
I have a PPL with 191 hrs TT.
Q) Can anyone suggest a school offering residential ME CPL/IR AND ATPL ground school + exams within a time frame of 5 months and a budget of £30k (to include all fees and accommodation) ??? Happy to go abroad as long as JAA.
Many thanks. MFWF
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5 months including the 14 ATPL exams??? Surely this can't be right? Even if you self studied and were Einsteins long lost illegitimate great great great grandson thrice removed the system is against you. For a start you need to enrol with a course provider, then attend their brush up course (2 weeks generally). Brush up courses are usually provided for each module. If you plan on attempting to sit all 14 at once then you will need to attend the relevant brush up courses which might not be run in the month you want.
Then you need to enrol in the exams. This needs at least 3-4 weeks advance booking to ensure you get your preferred centre or else you might be flying to Glasgow and accomodating yourself for the week up there. The results take weeks to come out by which time you have missed the deadline for the following months sitting. You are not allowed to book without having your results so this precludes doing a back to back sitting. Then any CPL/IR FTO who is worth their salt will more than likely not accept your course booking knowing that you haven't passed the exams. The best FTO's have waiting lists for their courses which can be many months in advance. You can go cheap and cheerful elsewhere but buyer beware. In the UK the ME/CPL/IR is going to take a MINIMUM of 3-4 months depending on weather. You can cut some time off if you head off overseas but you won't get it done in half the time or anything like that. At the end of the day there are only so many hours you can fly and your brain will more than likely be fried after each flight anyway. Then there are other factors such as instructor/aircraft/training slot availability to contend with.
5 months - highly unlikely if you have to do the 14 ATPL's. More like 9-12 months and that assumes you pass everything first time and are extremely clued up on the theory side of things. Most people tend to take a year at least just to do the ATPL theory side of things when self studying. Many more run right up to the 18 months deadline which can be quite tight if you can't commit 100% to the study and need time off for a home life.
Then you need to enrol in the exams. This needs at least 3-4 weeks advance booking to ensure you get your preferred centre or else you might be flying to Glasgow and accomodating yourself for the week up there. The results take weeks to come out by which time you have missed the deadline for the following months sitting. You are not allowed to book without having your results so this precludes doing a back to back sitting. Then any CPL/IR FTO who is worth their salt will more than likely not accept your course booking knowing that you haven't passed the exams. The best FTO's have waiting lists for their courses which can be many months in advance. You can go cheap and cheerful elsewhere but buyer beware. In the UK the ME/CPL/IR is going to take a MINIMUM of 3-4 months depending on weather. You can cut some time off if you head off overseas but you won't get it done in half the time or anything like that. At the end of the day there are only so many hours you can fly and your brain will more than likely be fried after each flight anyway. Then there are other factors such as instructor/aircraft/training slot availability to contend with.
5 months - highly unlikely if you have to do the 14 ATPL's. More like 9-12 months and that assumes you pass everything first time and are extremely clued up on the theory side of things. Most people tend to take a year at least just to do the ATPL theory side of things when self studying. Many more run right up to the 18 months deadline which can be quite tight if you can't commit 100% to the study and need time off for a home life.
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Am I right in thinking that if you complete your ATPL exams in the UK then you cannot (without a bloody good reason) complete the flying abroad? If so then how do all these FTO that are based overseas cope with getting studes through?
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simple answer is they don't....if you go abroad say for example America and do you training under FAA, you come back to the UK, you need to study and pass the theory and convert your IR. Conversion costs can easily mount up to around 15k.
30k is realistic price though for ATPL theory, CPL and IR here in the UK...
Your CPL/IR training will realisticly cost around 20k - 23k (23k if you do IR/CPL route all on ME aircraft).
I'm doing my ATPLs soon and my finance plan tells me it will cost me around 34k for doing my ATPLs, CPL, IR and MCC incl my planned living expenses and all costs.
30k is realistic price though for ATPL theory, CPL and IR here in the UK...
Your CPL/IR training will realisticly cost around 20k - 23k (23k if you do IR/CPL route all on ME aircraft).
I'm doing my ATPLs soon and my finance plan tells me it will cost me around 34k for doing my ATPLs, CPL, IR and MCC incl my planned living expenses and all costs.