Which school?

[sir.pratt]

you're comparing apples to oranges - modular to ab initio.

[garywoodrow]

ok, just need to know which would be better, taking in consideration of costs, which will help me land a job etc. Im stuck between chosing.

[shaun ryder]

A couple of grand for a course from Bristol groundscool etal, I should think. Dont believe the hype when told that schools will find you a job after your very expensive training. There is no gaurantee.

[Hairdo]

Commander1,

I just wanted to pass on my experience with MFC (I know this is a delay between posts but I just joined). I'm not in the JAA training so I cant give you the specifics, but I can tell you about the school.

MFC is a really great school, can't compare it to others because I haven't been to others, but here in Canada it has a very good reputation. It's been around since 1929 and I see no reason for it to close so there should be no worries that you could lose your money to the closure of a flight school. It's run with the attitude of a professional airline, but at the same time, everyone is very friendly and willing to help you in any way that they can. It is a busy school (which is why you may find some of the info on the website a bit out of date). The school does hinge around safety, which to a student may seem ridiculous sometimes, but there are good reasons for it. All of the maintenance is done by the schools AME's (some of them possess PPL's), so no shoddy work.

There are 14 DA20's, 6 C-172's, 2 PA-44's, and soon to be a King Air 90, but that will be for BUAA (Chinese) students only (as far as I know).
Another benefit is the weather. While it may be annoying and wacky at some times (snowing now), it is a good training experience to not have sun 364 days of the year.
I should probably stop now , but there is so much to say.

Overall, great school.

Any questions don't hesitate to ask me or e-mail Max (JAA Program Manager) at [email protected] or check out MFC's site

Hairdo

PS. you'll also be getting JAA training, which i assume is what you want, not other training/licenses which then have to be converted. oh yeah, the training costs are considerably less here because MFC is a not for profit school

[Hairdo]

Umm, looks like i should have read further posts Commander1.
I see that you have said that you were keeping your options open. You could get your canadian license, there are a good deal of jobs, especially instructing at MFC (almost guaranteed a job instructing (as PIC) within a month, although it isn't unheard of to have instructors walk out of training and into a flying job here). from there prospects are very good but it's all in where and what you want to do.

hairdo

[Hairdo]

Oh yeah, I forgot that MFC also has a Bellanca Citabria that is used for tailwheel checkouts, upset training, and aerobatic training.

Hairdo

[Life's a Beech]

Originally Posted by sir pratt

you're comparing apples to oranges - modular to ab initio.

No, assuming you mean "modular to integrated" (both modular and integrated courses can be taken ab initio, so the comparison you suggest is meaningless), that would be like comparing oranges you have to peel yourself and oranges you have paid someone to peel. You get the same result, just with slightly less effort.

[mustflywillfly]

Well Respected Schools Abroad

Ladies and Chaps,

I could do the CPL/IR/MCC in Bournemouth for under £30k (I have a PPL) but could do it much cheaper abroad.

Are the savings made by completing the training abroad worth it?

Are there any schools abroad whose grads regularly find work in the UK?

At the mo, looks like BCFT is winning my vote...

Your thoughts and comments would be useful.

Thanks

MFWF

[Superpilot]

Your subject title asks for ‘Well Respected Training Schools Abroad’. Apart from a couple of famous schools in Spain and probably one in Greece the rest are obviously going to be in the US. It is my opinion that the vast majority of US training schools are seen as unprofessional and sausage-factory like by most UK based recruiters.

To be honest, in a lot of cases US flight schools are unprofessional and sausage-factory like but I’m not going to say all are. The savings (after conversion, accommodation, and all other expenses) are probably not going to be more than £5k. I am personally spending the extra £5k because the UK is where I wish to fly (so I may as well train here) and I don't want to risk any bias against me (because someone somewhere will). Top $ for you £ right now though, so it's not an easy choice!

[ob74]

us flight schools

yes and oxford and cabair integrated schools do most of their flying where????? you guessed it = good old USA, why because its cheaper = more profit!!!!!!!!!!

[ken0311]

Converting PPL(A) CASA (Australia) issued license to JAA PPL.

First of all I'm new here so if there is a sticky somewhere in this forum regarding flight school recommendations, I apologise.

I plan to take a course all the way to ATPL (Frozen) however I already hold a PPL(A) with CASA (Civil Aviation Safety Authority) in Australia with valid aviation medicals.

Do I need to take the JAA PPL course or is there some sort of exams that I can take to convert my license.

And can anyone recommend flight schools in CA or in FL or even NV?

Thanks in advance guys!

[babotika]

Advanced training in UK

Greets,

First of all I apologise if this question has already been asked, but I couldn't find a relevant thread.

I'm currently flying in Canada and have passed all the exams for CPL, including flight test, but I don't want to live here much longer.
I am looking getting a JAA ATPL (plus IR of course) in the UK, then looking for a job in Europe. I have 160 hours so my CPL isn't 'validated' yet, however I don't want to go on flying here.

I visited Cabair EGHH and OAT, both places look nice and can provide what I need, but I still don't know how desirable (for lack of a better word) I would be for a EU airline compared to someone who took an integrated course. Basically have I missed the plane, or is there a place for pilots who start flying abroad?

Also are there other places I should be looking at that are in good standing with airlines that can provide the ATPL theory and an IR?

Thanks in advance for your answers,

S.

[Markos.]

My Professional Pilot Training

Hi there,

This is my first post and I'd like to introduce myself a little bit.
I'm a spanish student, currently living in Spain and looking for the possibilities of training as a professional pilot that I've.

These possibilities are:
- Studying in Spain, get the license in 2 years, then unemploymen because there are 4000 pilots active pilots looking for a job only here in Spain.
-Studying in Cathay Pacific, main problem is getting the permanent residencial allowance.
-Studying in Embry Riddle(4 years and too much money without job guarantees)
-Studying in Sierra Academy, I heard good opinions about it.
-Studying in any american school and then move for the CPL to Embry Riddle.
-Studying this summer the PPL in McAir Aviation(Denver) and start next year the rest of the training having the PPL.

Which option would you consider?

Other problem is that if I studie this summer in Denver, I won't be able to fly in Spain with my license and therefore I won't comply with the minium flight time and touches&goes to keep the license active.
Or, what about converting my PPL license form American to ICAO?

Thank you a lot, keep the good job of this big community up!

[Dick Whittingham]

Oye, Markos,

Debes pensar de un curso teorico a distancia con una escuela inglesa, mientras que haces tu horas de vuelo en los EEUU. Al fin, tendras una licencia JAA, lo que te dara muchas oportunidades de trabajo en Europa. Creo que, aparte de Francia y Espana los paises de EU aceptan la licencia JAA sin problemas, y sobre todo el mercado en Inglaterra sigue muy abierto.

ciao

Dick W

[ccopter]

careful goes

I have some experience of bournemouth flight training and i would go carefully there - PM me if you want further info.

[Vitting]

Choosing school, type rating VS. hrs?

Hi there...

I’m new to this forum and in desperate need of help... I want to start on an integrated course this summer and I’ve found to schools that I find appealing one (NEAR/NIAI) offers both FAA and JAA license and a lot of hours as a flight instructor, while the other, a Danish school, offers a 737 or similar type-rating.
So which way is the best way to go, type-rating or a lot of hours when you want to fly commercial jets?

Cheers,
Vitting

[ivehad2many]

with regards to ccopters post i dunno what happened there?!

i started my PPL with the company when i was 14. they have done nothing but help in everyway and since i have completed

Residential ATPL Groundschool
Hour Building
CPL
Multi
Multi IR
MCC
FIC

there... i cant say ive ever had a problem at all and am more than happy to answer any questions you have. more than welcome to pm me as well

[Turbine King]

ccopter

Who are Bournemouth Flight Training?

My school recommends a certain Bournemouth school
Now I am confused as to who is at Bournemouth

[ivehad2many]

i have been refering to Bournemouth Commercial Flight Training www.bcft.org.uk

[bobster1]

BCFT

I have to agree with ivehad2many..I have just finished ATPL ground school
with BCFT...and from what I have seen over the 7 months I was there for, people were progressing rapidly thru cpl and ir courses and high pass rate to..
The flying side there is profesionaly run..by mostly experienced retired and current airline pilots..who want people to go thru as quickly and cheaply as possible..
ccopter must have just been a rare unlucky one..