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Make sure you have enough % factored in for a contigency. The prices are of course usually quoted for minimum hours and first time passes. At around a typical £300/hr in the UK for dual twin CPL/IR training, a few extra hours soon add up...
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To echo what Blue Robin is saying, a partial or a fail can easily turn into a £1,000 day. Then there is the extra accomodation, beer and food money and all those little extras that soon become a big extra cost. So don't skimp on the contingency. I would say take the schools prices and add at a minimum 10-20% on top - assuming you are quoted an all inclusive figure. Things like approach and away landing fees end up being a surprisingly large number at the end of your course. I was stunned at what some shi**y little airfields with nothing more than an air ground radio feel they can charge just cos you turn up in a 30 year old pistion twin.
Take off the rose tinted glasses when crunching your numbers.
Take off the rose tinted glasses when crunching your numbers.
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Flying School queries
hey buddies , great site and lots of amazing work for help and queries here. Hope you all keep it up.
Guys, ive been looking up a lot of flying schools in America and Australia , to join up for my ATPL.
As such i zeored in on these three schools :
Basair , Australia
PanAm , US
RAA Flight Academy , US
i'd be really glad if anyone can let me know how the schools are , or which could be a better option. There are so many flight schools mushrooming around and all sound the same; their programs , the fleet , the instructors and ofcourse WX conditions. Just to make sure i dont end up taking a bad decision ,so am looking for help.
Thanks.
Guys, ive been looking up a lot of flying schools in America and Australia , to join up for my ATPL.
As such i zeored in on these three schools :
Basair , Australia
PanAm , US
RAA Flight Academy , US
i'd be really glad if anyone can let me know how the schools are , or which could be a better option. There are so many flight schools mushrooming around and all sound the same; their programs , the fleet , the instructors and ofcourse WX conditions. Just to make sure i dont end up taking a bad decision ,so am looking for help.
Thanks.
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Hi!
I'm looking at FTE aswell. I also have a PPL also with 65 hours, so the same 'dilema'! FTE will reduce the training by 20hrs, OAT will not, they couldn't care less if you've got a PPL or not really! If i get accepted by FTE after PILAPT testing (next week) then i will go there, over Oxford. It's better value for money (everything included, apart from beer money!), they have really good 'ties' with FlyBe and ThompsonFly (unless that has changed), and in my opinion i think it would be a nicer place to go!
Anyone know any different or have a counter opinion?
I'm looking at FTE aswell. I also have a PPL also with 65 hours, so the same 'dilema'! FTE will reduce the training by 20hrs, OAT will not, they couldn't care less if you've got a PPL or not really! If i get accepted by FTE after PILAPT testing (next week) then i will go there, over Oxford. It's better value for money (everything included, apart from beer money!), they have really good 'ties' with FlyBe and ThompsonFly (unless that has changed), and in my opinion i think it would be a nicer place to go!
Anyone know any different or have a counter opinion?
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HI ORATC,
I too have applied to FTE and am awaiting a date for the PILAPT day. They did mention one date in London but that has so far yet to be confirmed. Just wondered if you were going over there yourself or are going to London. Would be keen to findout how the day goes. Similair dilemma here;; finishing my PPL off now and sometimes wonde if I should have started it in the first place! FTE seems to be the most 'PPL friendly' place. ALso have the app for OAT in front of me.! Good luck with PILAPT!
I too have applied to FTE and am awaiting a date for the PILAPT day. They did mention one date in London but that has so far yet to be confirmed. Just wondered if you were going over there yourself or are going to London. Would be keen to findout how the day goes. Similair dilemma here;; finishing my PPL off now and sometimes wonde if I should have started it in the first place! FTE seems to be the most 'PPL friendly' place. ALso have the app for OAT in front of me.! Good luck with PILAPT!
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Good and bad flightschools?
Hey all, I was doing some research the other day about various flight schools across Europe, Canada and the US and didn't find much.
I know there are some out there that just want to rip you off and have poor facilities, badly maintained aircraft etc, need i go on. I am curious to know of any good schools out there that you would recommend for me to train at to become an airline/cargo pilot. I would like to obtain both the JAA and FAA licenses but not sure which one to get first. I heard America was alot cheaper to train in and at least you are guaranteed good weather unlike here
I have heard of these schools and I would like to know what you all think of them:
http://www.naiasc.com/
http://www.flyoft.com/
http://www.naples-air-center.com/dev/index.php?view=67
http://www.aerodynamics-malaga.com/
or http://www.mfc.nb.ca/home.php
I dont want to pay an overly enormous amount of money when i could get it slightly cheaper but then again you get what you pay for as the saying goes.
Thats only my list but if you can find something else better i am open to suggestions.
P.S as you've probably saw on the other threads i am Cabin Crew at the moment, i get to save for my pilot training while enjoying flying
Again sorry to be a pain asking so many questions that do sound the same, I am in limbo.
Cheers again
Sarah
I know there are some out there that just want to rip you off and have poor facilities, badly maintained aircraft etc, need i go on. I am curious to know of any good schools out there that you would recommend for me to train at to become an airline/cargo pilot. I would like to obtain both the JAA and FAA licenses but not sure which one to get first. I heard America was alot cheaper to train in and at least you are guaranteed good weather unlike here
I have heard of these schools and I would like to know what you all think of them:
http://www.naiasc.com/
http://www.flyoft.com/
http://www.naples-air-center.com/dev/index.php?view=67
http://www.aerodynamics-malaga.com/
or http://www.mfc.nb.ca/home.php
I dont want to pay an overly enormous amount of money when i could get it slightly cheaper but then again you get what you pay for as the saying goes.
Thats only my list but if you can find something else better i am open to suggestions.
P.S as you've probably saw on the other threads i am Cabin Crew at the moment, i get to save for my pilot training while enjoying flying
Again sorry to be a pain asking so many questions that do sound the same, I am in limbo.
Cheers again
Sarah
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Price VS Prestige
Hello Everyone,
I will be joining the professional pilot training ranks very soon. I would like some opinions. On choosing a flight school to attend, I have been researching what schools interests me. The curriculum is similar; however, the price difference from one school to the other is about $20,000. One school trains by airline standards and the other is the traditional route. One guarantees job interviews, and the other does not. One affiliated with an airline and the other just gives free student housing. You get where I'm going. So my question is what training route makes more sense? Do I choose the school that trains professional pilots the traditional way with no direct connections to the airlines but the prices are much more affordable, or do I choose the priestige and go to the school that will train by airline standards and is directly connected to airlines but will put me $20,000 more in debt?
Thanks
I will be joining the professional pilot training ranks very soon. I would like some opinions. On choosing a flight school to attend, I have been researching what schools interests me. The curriculum is similar; however, the price difference from one school to the other is about $20,000. One school trains by airline standards and the other is the traditional route. One guarantees job interviews, and the other does not. One affiliated with an airline and the other just gives free student housing. You get where I'm going. So my question is what training route makes more sense? Do I choose the school that trains professional pilots the traditional way with no direct connections to the airlines but the prices are much more affordable, or do I choose the priestige and go to the school that will train by airline standards and is directly connected to airlines but will put me $20,000 more in debt?
Thanks
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It may be worth elaborating on the schools in question to get the best feedback from prunes.
Guaranteed jobs or interviews can carry an air of ambiguity with them these days.
Throw the flight school names out there and you can rest assured you'll recieve alot of facts, opinions and nonsense!
Regards
Rossco
Guaranteed jobs or interviews can carry an air of ambiguity with them these days.
Throw the flight school names out there and you can rest assured you'll recieve alot of facts, opinions and nonsense!
Regards
Rossco
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To sum up, is Canada better to train in than the US with regards to quality of training, value for money and overall goodness and employment at the end of the course (if you have visa's for these countries?)
I've heard horror stories regarding America and all good regarding Canada and overall that Canada is a better country to live in.
I've heard horror stories regarding America and all good regarding Canada and overall that Canada is a better country to live in.
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I was lucky, I went to Canada and managed to avoid "the bad and the ugly"..
My decision was to train at Moncton Flight College in New Brunswick. My opinions (if I've managed to attach the link correctly) can be found in the following thread:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...?t=7849&page=7
Needless to say, I was very happy with my choice. I found the school to be well-run, responsible and, most importantly, safe.
I can't compare MFC to other North American schools because it's the only one I've attended, but I had a fantastic and successful time and would happily recommend them to anyone.
Two years ago I was trying to decide which path to take and I got some invaluable information from this site, and so I'm happy to offer some of my knowledge and experiences back to the readers.
Post here or PM me if you want any opinions or information on the modular training route and/or Moncton Flight College, I'd be happy to help out.
Cheers
APO
My decision was to train at Moncton Flight College in New Brunswick. My opinions (if I've managed to attach the link correctly) can be found in the following thread:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...?t=7849&page=7
Needless to say, I was very happy with my choice. I found the school to be well-run, responsible and, most importantly, safe.
I can't compare MFC to other North American schools because it's the only one I've attended, but I had a fantastic and successful time and would happily recommend them to anyone.
Two years ago I was trying to decide which path to take and I got some invaluable information from this site, and so I'm happy to offer some of my knowledge and experiences back to the readers.
Post here or PM me if you want any opinions or information on the modular training route and/or Moncton Flight College, I'd be happy to help out.
Cheers
APO
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Cool, seems like a really nice flight school. 
I think the flight school in South Carolina may be better than your average flight school in Florida.
Strange that no one has training there though (NAIASC)
http://www.naiasc.com/
Still trying to figure out if i want to live in either America or Canada, i can do both in the future (if my boyfriend and i get married)
I think the flight school in South Carolina may be better than your average flight school in Florida.
Strange that no one has training there though (NAIASC)
http://www.naiasc.com/
Still trying to figure out if i want to live in either America or Canada, i can do both in the future (if my boyfriend and i get married)
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FAA just now but im keeping my options open, interested in the CAA and JAA licenses too but i'd go where to jobs are as long as its a relatively good pay and not peanuts hehehe.
I've heard good and bad about working/living in the US and all good about Canada.
I've heard good and bad about working/living in the US and all good about Canada.
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Which school to choose if you want to live in your home town.
Hi.
Long time reader, first time writer.
I“m trying to choose a school.
First I was looking at NEAR (norway), BFSAA and SPU.
http://www.nearas.no/default.asp
http://www.bfsaa.se/
http://www.svenskpilotutbildning.se/
Then I started reading this forum and learned about CTC, OAT, FTE and Cabair. They all seemed better whith helping me get that flying job after the education.
The price doesn“t matter that much or differs between sweden and UK.
I live in the south of sweden in Malmo, 20 min from Copenhagen(CPH,EKCH, Kastrup) and 30 min from Malmo (MMX,ESMS, Sturup) so I have to international airport close to me.
If I choose a UK school and get a job at a UK company, Do you think that I still can live in Sweden?
Can I jumpseat with other companies to the UK each rooster?
/Alex
Long time reader, first time writer.
I“m trying to choose a school.
First I was looking at NEAR (norway), BFSAA and SPU.
http://www.nearas.no/default.asp
http://www.bfsaa.se/
http://www.svenskpilotutbildning.se/
Then I started reading this forum and learned about CTC, OAT, FTE and Cabair. They all seemed better whith helping me get that flying job after the education.
The price doesn“t matter that much or differs between sweden and UK.
I live in the south of sweden in Malmo, 20 min from Copenhagen(CPH,EKCH, Kastrup) and 30 min from Malmo (MMX,ESMS, Sturup) so I have to international airport close to me.
If I choose a UK school and get a job at a UK company, Do you think that I still can live in Sweden?
Can I jumpseat with other companies to the UK each rooster?
/Alex
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A lot of airlines expect you to live within an hour of the airport and don't look too favourably on you if you don't have a valid driving license as you'd have to rely on public transport. I'm assuming most would also not be too impressed if you had to catch a flight into work every day!
Having said that though, there are some airlines that could possibly accept that; Netjets and suchlike do have "gateway" cities where it's acceptable to live if you're flying for them. I'd say that it's a personal airline thing though!
KA
Having said that though, there are some airlines that could possibly accept that; Netjets and suchlike do have "gateway" cities where it's acceptable to live if you're flying for them. I'd say that it's a personal airline thing though!
KA
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Need a little advice on training
Hi, i tried searching for something along these lines but couldnt find anything.
Yesterday i had my first flying lesson with Ravenair out of Liverpool which was a gift from my dad (it was brilliant by the way, i loved every second of it), anyway i was told by the school i could obtain a ATPL (Frozen) for £30-35k. I know this is cheaper than cabair but i have seen cabair help you finding a job with an airline and can give you jet experience and more. I would just like to know which to go for?
Cabair: £55k
Ravenair: £35k
-I am not sure that ravenair pay for ATPL exams so what would be the cost on them?
Yesterday i had my first flying lesson with Ravenair out of Liverpool which was a gift from my dad (it was brilliant by the way, i loved every second of it
), anyway i was told by the school i could obtain a ATPL (Frozen) for £30-35k. I know this is cheaper than cabair but i have seen cabair help you finding a job with an airline and can give you jet experience and more. I would just like to know which to go for?Cabair: £55k
Ravenair: £35k
-I am not sure that ravenair pay for ATPL exams so what would be the cost on them?
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I live about 6 miles away so yes i am local, i am just trying to find out now how much the atpl exams cost now, if i do choose ravenair i can start training whilst i am at college too.
thanks for replying
thanks for replying