Wannabe a pilot! (And I'm too damn lazy to do a search)
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Originally Posted by poss
since i can remember i have been very near top of my classes in everything, my GCSE results were fantastic with 8 B's and 3 C's.
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yes we do seem to be getting rather more than our fair share of, er, confident young chappies on here as of late. What ever happened to that Silverwings guy who really was convinced he was God's gift?
Mate, a few serious replies will come along soon, but best thing to do would be to read the Sticky's (wherever they are, Mods will point you in the right direction). They'll more or less answer your questions.
But I would consider eating a bit more of that humble pie
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Mate, a few serious replies will come along soon, but best thing to do would be to read the Sticky's (wherever they are, Mods will point you in the right direction). They'll more or less answer your questions.
But I would consider eating a bit more of that humble pie
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CTC have a very stringent selection process, and I wouldn't get my hopes up about being successful in getting a place with them (that's not to say don't give up before the fight, by all means go for it, and that applies to everything). OAT is the most expensive FTO, and therefore is financially riskier. But they do include a JOC in their course, something which most schools do not.
Jobs are tough to get. It really depends on the state of the industry when you are qualified. You could be the best pilot in the world and unable to get a job.
Being good at the bookwork will be an good advantage for the writtens. BTW "My GCSE results were fantastic" sounds a bit cocky. People who weren't the best at school can and will do just as well as long as they put in the hard work. Any successful pilot has worked hard to succeed in training and get a job.
Getting into €100k debt at the age of 18/19 isn't commitment. It is taking a huge risk and foolish if you don't realise it. People can train for a fATPL at a much lower cost and risk, but they are as committed/determined as anyone else, and will have a lot less to pay back when they get jobs.
From the sound of your post, you seriously need to research this career, and consider all possible training options. Also, there are a lot of university courses that offer pilot studies along with a respectable degree, and there are opportunities to join University Air Squadrons. No school can guarantee you will get a job, no matter how much money you spend.
Jobs are tough to get. It really depends on the state of the industry when you are qualified. You could be the best pilot in the world and unable to get a job.
Being good at the bookwork will be an good advantage for the writtens. BTW "My GCSE results were fantastic" sounds a bit cocky. People who weren't the best at school can and will do just as well as long as they put in the hard work. Any successful pilot has worked hard to succeed in training and get a job.
Getting into €100k debt at the age of 18/19 isn't commitment. It is taking a huge risk and foolish if you don't realise it. People can train for a fATPL at a much lower cost and risk, but they are as committed/determined as anyone else, and will have a lot less to pay back when they get jobs.
From the sound of your post, you seriously need to research this career, and consider all possible training options. Also, there are a lot of university courses that offer pilot studies along with a respectable degree, and there are opportunities to join University Air Squadrons. No school can guarantee you will get a job, no matter how much money you spend.
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Don't be too hard on him, at least he didn't start a thread to advertise his own somewhat random business interests, as did our late friend silverwings. Good luck with the A levels poss.
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I'm sorry for my seemingly big headedness i just wanted to show how much i will work at something and how enthusiastic i am, guess i took it a bit (very) to far. The thing with my GCSE results is, i was very afraid of the outcome and practically danced on the spot when i got them back lol. i think its best if i modify the post. Thanks a lot for the support bitmorerightrudder <3
Thanks for the replys i have been reading into the link scroggs gave me and it answered my question 10x's over i see now it isnt a case of graduate and get a job within a year, it takes time and luck in a lot of cases. i will put that time in so i finally get to where i want to be.
With the debt thing it is a huge risk, but as i want to be an ALP its one that i want to take, which sometime throughout the courses i go on will no doubt keep me awake at night with worry.
Thanks for the replys i have been reading into the link scroggs gave me and it answered my question 10x's over i see now it isnt a case of graduate and get a job within a year, it takes time and luck in a lot of cases. i will put that time in so i finally get to where i want to be.
With the debt thing it is a huge risk, but as i want to be an ALP its one that i want to take, which sometime throughout the courses i go on will no doubt keep me awake at night with worry.
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if i do an integrated course and get a frozen atpl with 200 hours does this mean that i will be qualified to be a first officer,using my cpl, until such time as i obtain 1500 hours and then my atpl becomes unfrozen??!!
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What's it take to become a pilot? Are there like ways to prepare (flight sims etc)?? I'm just wondering because its a possible career path i'm interested in.
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I've heard that going into the Air Force can provide great career opportunities even after you join..but what kind of certificates and what level of experience is needed for this? Which degrees (or certificates) are required for this??
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First, you really must read the thread that mcgoo pointed you to. It is called Archive Reference Threads - READ BEFORE YOU POST A QUESTION. It sits at the top of the forum, therefore it's not difficult to find. Once you have been through that (it will take you some time), by all means come back and ask questions. Think carefully about how you word your questions; we cannot give you useful answers unless you tell us all the relevant info about yourself and your circumstances. Like where you are in the world, for instance.
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Hi I wonder if anyone can kindly advice me on what you think will be the best course of action to take in order to become a fully qualified commercial airline pilot. I have just finished University in the United Kingdom and am currently in full time employment in order to save up enough money within the next two years in order to fund the training course in order to eventually become an airline pilot. However all the flight schools that I have checked out in the United Kingdom such as Oxford (OAT) and Cabair has proved to be very costly and way over my budget and the last thing I want will be to take up a loan in order to help me finance the flying course. I am considering going abroad such as USA, Canada or New Zealand as I was recommended a flight school in New Zealand called International Aviation Academy of New Zealand who are offering the whole course of up to 260 total flying hours plus conversion to JAA licence at only £33,000 and if I add on the living costs it will total to around £41,000 which is way cheaper then doing it say Cabair who charge around £53,000 which is rediculously expensive especially when you add the living costs with it. The only problem with New Zealand is it is too far from home and therefore theres the risk that I will get home sick very shortly. Can anyone advice me on what good flight schools I can go to that will be recognised by European airlines in particularly British airlines such as Ryanair or Easyjet bear in mind the total cost of the course, all assistance will be much appreciated, thank you in advance.
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I'm from Malaysia, if you want cheap and your licience is acceptable, i advice you join Malaysian Flying Academy, the whole flying course its below 30k pound. You can check out their website at www.mfa.edu.my
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Ritzer82,
You're in a nice position. Only thing I'd say to you is, having spent a year in NZ, you couldn't go to a more amazing spot to do your training, assuming, of course, that you're happy with the standards out there etc. You won't have time to be homesick
, and even if you are, so what!! The time will fly. There's also a good school in Tauranga, up near the Mount Maunganui; Google it. Get a surfboard and you'll be laughing 
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You're in a nice position. Only thing I'd say to you is, having spent a year in NZ, you couldn't go to a more amazing spot to do your training, assuming, of course, that you're happy with the standards out there etc. You won't have time to be homesick
, and even if you are, so what!! The time will fly. There's also a good school in Tauranga, up near the Mount Maunganui; Google it. Get a surfboard and you'll be laughing 747pundit
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I appreciate your advice guys, about training in Malaysia do you know if they train you from zero hours to an ATPL frozen licence as I could not find this information on their site thats if I am looking in the wrong place, Malaysia is a great place as I been there for a holiday last year with my family and absolutely loved it, thanks.
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I repeat what I posted here: http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=51690:
Don't go for budget training if your aim is to fly in a jet as soon as possible - pay for quality training and ensure you have the best shot possible, or you will end up spending more paying for type ratings and waiting months for a job while not in employment.
I don't think that selecting a school (1) based upon it being a nice place to go on holiday, or (2) unverifiable as to whether it provides JAR training or not is wise (it mentions CAA structure, but not JAR approved or JAR licences). If you get homesick then it is probably not a profession for you.
(a) Go for a Class 1 Medical to ensure you are permitted to fly
(b) Get yourself aptitude tested to ensure that you have the aptitude. Desire alone is insufficient to qualify for a job (GAPAN for example).
(c) Obtain a PPL in minimum time and put yourself under pressure if you have not already done so - 3-4 weeks in good weather, and UK flying experience is a good idea for at least nav/part of it.
(d) If you can afford it, get through in the minimum possible time through the ATPL training - possibly considering integrated if you can afford it due to connections they have with employers, but if not through replicating the pressure under a tight-timescale structured modular - with a training record at one provider only, you will stand a better chance of being recommended and of training continuity.
If you come out an integrated with >90% results and first time passes, there is no reason a BA-type would not employ you directly.
You need to read threads from the past in this forum a lot and learn what licences you need and where you can get the training http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=131649
Don't go for budget training if your aim is to fly in a jet as soon as possible - pay for quality training and ensure you have the best shot possible, or you will end up spending more paying for type ratings and waiting months for a job while not in employment.I don't think that selecting a school (1) based upon it being a nice place to go on holiday, or (2) unverifiable as to whether it provides JAR training or not is wise (it mentions CAA structure, but not JAR approved or JAR licences). If you get homesick then it is probably not a profession for you.
(a) Go for a Class 1 Medical to ensure you are permitted to fly
(b) Get yourself aptitude tested to ensure that you have the aptitude. Desire alone is insufficient to qualify for a job (GAPAN for example).
(c) Obtain a PPL in minimum time and put yourself under pressure if you have not already done so - 3-4 weeks in good weather, and UK flying experience is a good idea for at least nav/part of it.
(d) If you can afford it, get through in the minimum possible time through the ATPL training - possibly considering integrated if you can afford it due to connections they have with employers, but if not through replicating the pressure under a tight-timescale structured modular - with a training record at one provider only, you will stand a better chance of being recommended and of training continuity.
If you come out an integrated with >90% results and first time passes, there is no reason a BA-type would not employ you directly.
You need to read threads from the past in this forum a lot and learn what licences you need and where you can get the training http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=131649
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Thanks that was very informative , if you dont mind but what flight schools would you recommend me, I dont mind going abroad and also do you know any sites that I can go on in order to test my aptitude out and how long do medical class A certificates valid for, and is it wise for me to do a PPL licence now even though I want to go for an integrated path, thanks.
, if you dont mind but what flight schools would you recommend me, I dont mind going abroad and also do you know any sites that I can go on in order to test my aptitude out and how long do medical class A certificates valid for, and is it wise for me to do a PPL licence now even though I want to go for an integrated path, thanks.