Wannabe a pilot! (And I'm too damn lazy to do a search)
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nikko100, lots of info on this thread.
For what it's worth I feel your daughter would benefit from university before heading into flight training, it will stand her well and perhaps help her stand out from other candidates. Also, some UK universities have air squadrons where you can complete a PPL.
None of the carriers (BA, Virgin etc) offer any cadet training program for entry level candidates, this could change but it's unlikely.
At 15, she's in a position to start her PPL and have a head start over other people her age. Best of luck to her
For what it's worth I feel your daughter would benefit from university before heading into flight training, it will stand her well and perhaps help her stand out from other candidates. Also, some UK universities have air squadrons where you can complete a PPL.
None of the carriers (BA, Virgin etc) offer any cadet training program for entry level candidates, this could change but it's unlikely.
At 15, she's in a position to start her PPL and have a head start over other people her age. Best of luck to her
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Wedding?
Thanks 4 that,
But I wouldn't even think about that!!!!
She's so strong-headed, she'll write the marriage service herself...and on her own terms !!!
Cheerrrzzzzzz
Nikko
But I wouldn't even think about that!!!!
She's so strong-headed, she'll write the marriage service herself...and on her own terms !!!
Cheerrrzzzzzz
Nikko
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Hey there 
I started flying at 16 (literally just after my birthday...club rules and all!) and then, just after turning 17, decided I wanted to go commercial. I've decided not to do the uni thing as I reckon my A levels will still be worth the same in a few years...and I can't afford to do both uni and fATPL training! Sure your daughter will decide, at A2 perhaps, whether uni is the right thing for her or not!
I started flying at 16 (literally just after my birthday...club rules and all!) and then, just after turning 17, decided I wanted to go commercial. I've decided not to do the uni thing as I reckon my A levels will still be worth the same in a few years...and I can't afford to do both uni and fATPL training! Sure your daughter will decide, at A2 perhaps, whether uni is the right thing for her or not!
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Started training straight after school, and now im 21 with 2 a/c type ratings, 1500 hours and presently flying the 757. Sure starting young means you'll tend to get places fairly young. However what i've found is that if i was to make an informed choice about whether or not to pursue a career in aviation at my age now, I'd probably think otherwise.
Everyone is different, in my case i wish i had gone to university beforehand. Even if to just give me a chance to make a maturer decision.
Good luck though.
Everyone is different, in my case i wish i had gone to university beforehand. Even if to just give me a chance to make a maturer decision.
Good luck though.
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Quick question.
Are A-Levels needed to get a job as an FO? No argument they will help, ofcourse they will, but are they needed to apply/get a job?
Doing my GCSE's now (left school a long time ago with none), will my GCSE grades be good enough? (estimated 4 A's or A* and perhaps 1 B, not sure ill get an A for English you see.)
Thanks
Are A-Levels needed to get a job as an FO? No argument they will help, ofcourse they will, but are they needed to apply/get a job?
Doing my GCSE's now (left school a long time ago with none), will my GCSE grades be good enough? (estimated 4 A's or A* and perhaps 1 B, not sure ill get an A for English you see.)
Thanks
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All depends on which route you want to go down. If you are thinking of applying to somewhere like CTC, their basic requirements before you even get an interview include A-levels or a degree, likewise for such self-important FTOs such as Oxford, iirc.
However, if you do the self-improver route and pay for it yourself, gaining experience through instructing before trying to go for an airline job then you need nothing but aptitude. With hours of experience under your belt plus at least some academic achievement in maths and science which you are doing in the form of GCSE's, then you shouldn't have much of a problem on that front.
However, if you do the self-improver route and pay for it yourself, gaining experience through instructing before trying to go for an airline job then you need nothing but aptitude. With hours of experience under your belt plus at least some academic achievement in maths and science which you are doing in the form of GCSE's, then you shouldn't have much of a problem on that front.
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Great.
Yep, self-improver route.
Currently working for 'Manchester Airports Group' in customer service, may apply for dispatch in the next following months to gain some experience there which I don't know if that will be of use but I'm sure it will be good, does having a bit of experience there help (or be of use) at all? having worked in the industry etc?
As for the qual's, Maths and Physics are the GCSE's most likely to get A/A* in so...
Thanks for the info.
Mach44
Yep, self-improver route.
Currently working for 'Manchester Airports Group' in customer service, may apply for dispatch in the next following months to gain some experience there which I don't know if that will be of use but I'm sure it will be good, does having a bit of experience there help (or be of use) at all? having worked in the industry etc?
As for the qual's, Maths and Physics are the GCSE's most likely to get A/A* in so...
Thanks for the info.
Mach44
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Experience in dispatch will be useful, yes. Anything that gives a fuller insight into the workings of a airline will be beneficial. You'll get a better understanding of how things work airside, and the problems that face crews and staff on turnaround etc. All useful, and interesting, stuff!
What's the next step for you in terms of flight training?
What's the next step for you in terms of flight training?
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Well,
Ill be aiming for doing modular training at Stapleford Flight Center + FI rating.
Why do you ask?
Any advice you could give there?
Ill be aiming for doing modular training at Stapleford Flight Center + FI rating.
Why do you ask?
Any advice you could give there?
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I was merely interested, I can't offer a huge amount of advice because I'm in pretty much the same position as you right now. I'll be finishing a degree this summer and will be looking into the self-improver route, via FI, if my CTC application gets nowhere. I'm currently a low hour PPL(A) and PPL(H).
I was also wondering what end of the country you were, and if you're using Stapleford I guess you're in the south-east. I was going to plug a school for you to use if you were up north, which is just starting up but with huge experience and expertise behind it. It's nothing to do with me other than the fact that I know the CFI, but it's too far away for you I suspect (Yorkshire).
I was also wondering what end of the country you were, and if you're using Stapleford I guess you're in the south-east. I was going to plug a school for you to use if you were up north, which is just starting up but with huge experience and expertise behind it. It's nothing to do with me other than the fact that I know the CFI, but it's too far away for you I suspect (Yorkshire).
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hi there i m just another aspiring pilot and am right now looking at picking up a loan and doing my flying i would greatly appreciate if u could suggest where as in which country should i be lookking at and also are there any particular schools that u would suggest. i m an indian but would be more than willing to do my training from anywhere in d world...... i would really be grateful if u could help me out as i ve just joined the forum and am not very much aware how to go abt things....... thanx in advance
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South Africa seems to have reasonable prices with in the ICAO region l will send you some links when l dig the out . Try google searching Flight training in South Africa ( Schools) thayt is
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for as long as I can remember Ive always had the aviation bug ... When I reached the age at school where a career path had to be chosen, I was advised that I would need good A levels in Maths and Physics to stand a chance of becoming an airline pilot !! what advice !! so, instead of following my heart, I decided to gear up my alevels to a design degree of some sort ... I then got a job during my A level years which made me slightly money hungry .. I then decided against a design degree and went for a business related one. Only for me to leave after 2nd year as It was doing nothing for me .. I then returned to the idea of working in a design based roll, attending night school to try and gain experience on the relevant software i would need to pursue such a job .. In the mean time I started a temping job ...
To cut it slightly short as Im waffling, my temping job improved over the course of a year and Im now in a position to enter into a mortgage. I'm hoping to work in my current position for the next 2/3 years, gain some flying experience on the side, and hopefully be in a position to either re-mortgage or sell for profit and attend the integrated course at CCAT. I attended an assesment day their this summer, only to be told I would have to re-take the physics test, this was due to the fact I hadnt done enough prep .. seeing as I got A's in Maths and Physcis GCSE I dont see the re-sit being a problem, just need to read up on my old notes ! So, hopefully, this is my first post on here , one of many, and hopefully I'll be in a position to offer advice in a few years once I've gone through a lot of hard work with possibly a touch of luck on the way !!
My cousin went to CCAT, couldnt find a job for about 8/10 months, then landed a job with a well known low cost airline , 3 years later he's now flying a340 600's for a well known trans atlantic carrier ... maybe one day we'll share the flight deck ..
see you in hong kong people !
To cut it slightly short as Im waffling, my temping job improved over the course of a year and Im now in a position to enter into a mortgage. I'm hoping to work in my current position for the next 2/3 years, gain some flying experience on the side, and hopefully be in a position to either re-mortgage or sell for profit and attend the integrated course at CCAT. I attended an assesment day their this summer, only to be told I would have to re-take the physics test, this was due to the fact I hadnt done enough prep .. seeing as I got A's in Maths and Physcis GCSE I dont see the re-sit being a problem, just need to read up on my old notes ! So, hopefully, this is my first post on here , one of many, and hopefully I'll be in a position to offer advice in a few years once I've gone through a lot of hard work with possibly a touch of luck on the way !!
My cousin went to CCAT, couldnt find a job for about 8/10 months, then landed a job with a well known low cost airline , 3 years later he's now flying a340 600's for a well known trans atlantic carrier ... maybe one day we'll share the flight deck ..
see you in hong kong people !
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new member says hello
Having spent the lions share the last weekend studying the information contained in this forum, I felt it appropriate to introduce myself.
Like many of the other posters here I am at a crossroads in my life and whilst searching for answers like minded people levitate towards each other and so, here I am.
I hope not to bore you with tired old questions that have been discussed ad nauseum but rather to explore the possibilities for the future with the knowledgable and wise subscribers that undoubtedly frequent these pages.
"He's posting in the wrong thread" I hear you murmor, well, hopefully not.
I came with endless questions and most have been answered very concisely by the stickies and links within. I am entirely consumed by the challenge of striking a reasonable balance between the financial/job prospects/aptitude and home life questions in front of me and satisying the almost primal urge that has been with me my entire life, that talks to me from within and says, "you must listen to what your heart tells you and DO what you were born to do!".
The very informative GAPAN guide mentions, in its appendix, that the airline industry is predicting growth for the coming years to the tune of 17000 pilots worldwide per year. Admittedly, it appears, this study was performed at the request of aircraft manufacturers and thus it's validity would have to be taken with adequate reservation. Whilst I notice, in my own backyard, the low cost carriers like Ryanair are investing heavily in large numbers of new aircraft. I don't speak from the vantage point of first hand experience but it would appear that now is as good a time as anyone could expect to attempt to move into a flying career. I work from the assumption that the differences between opportunities in the UK and Ireland where I currently live are minimal, perhaps somebody with more information could clarify that?
I have a lot to risk in terms of a financially rewarding engineering career, comfortable home and very supportive fiance. I have other questions about the value of aptitude tests (independant or taken at an FTO), how best to prepare for such tests and methods of financing flight training but rather than go off topic in this thread I will ask them in the relevant place.
Before this turns into an epic essay I would like to pass on my huge appreciation to the moderators and users of this forum who have put together and extremely valuable resource and I look forward to learning more about you all as time unfolds.
Kind Regards from a new lamb to the slaughter.
Like many of the other posters here I am at a crossroads in my life and whilst searching for answers like minded people levitate towards each other and so, here I am.
I hope not to bore you with tired old questions that have been discussed ad nauseum but rather to explore the possibilities for the future with the knowledgable and wise subscribers that undoubtedly frequent these pages.
"He's posting in the wrong thread" I hear you murmor, well, hopefully not.
I came with endless questions and most have been answered very concisely by the stickies and links within. I am entirely consumed by the challenge of striking a reasonable balance between the financial/job prospects/aptitude and home life questions in front of me and satisying the almost primal urge that has been with me my entire life, that talks to me from within and says, "you must listen to what your heart tells you and DO what you were born to do!".
The very informative GAPAN guide mentions, in its appendix, that the airline industry is predicting growth for the coming years to the tune of 17000 pilots worldwide per year. Admittedly, it appears, this study was performed at the request of aircraft manufacturers and thus it's validity would have to be taken with adequate reservation. Whilst I notice, in my own backyard, the low cost carriers like Ryanair are investing heavily in large numbers of new aircraft. I don't speak from the vantage point of first hand experience but it would appear that now is as good a time as anyone could expect to attempt to move into a flying career. I work from the assumption that the differences between opportunities in the UK and Ireland where I currently live are minimal, perhaps somebody with more information could clarify that?
I have a lot to risk in terms of a financially rewarding engineering career, comfortable home and very supportive fiance. I have other questions about the value of aptitude tests (independant or taken at an FTO), how best to prepare for such tests and methods of financing flight training but rather than go off topic in this thread I will ask them in the relevant place.
Before this turns into an epic essay I would like to pass on my huge appreciation to the moderators and users of this forum who have put together and extremely valuable resource and I look forward to learning more about you all as time unfolds.
Kind Regards from a new lamb to the slaughter.
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Modular ATL Route - What Order ? Location?
Hi,
I want to train for a frozen atpl with the hope of becoming an airline pilot. I know the differences between modular and integrated and have chosen the modular route.
I have initially £15000 to start and can manage £1000 a month after that to fund the modular route.
I would be very grateful if anybody could answer the following questions for me.
Regards
Matt
I want to train for a frozen atpl with the hope of becoming an airline pilot. I know the differences between modular and integrated and have chosen the modular route.
I have initially £15000 to start and can manage £1000 a month after that to fund the modular route.
I would be very grateful if anybody could answer the following questions for me.
- What is the cheapest place to do the modular route? I am prepared to do it abroad but do have a family so prefer the UK.
- What is the best order to do the modular route and will £15000 be enough to make a good start?
- I have been told £35000 would be enough to complete it. Is that true or alot more than that is required?
- I am nearly 30, so realistically will be 32 before i am qualified. Is that too old or do airlines prefer people of this age?
- Been told i would need alot of hours under my belt. Do companies sponsor you for the atpl in return for free instructing? If so that would help with the financing.
Regards
Matt
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Few questions on ground school exams?
Hi just out of curiosity when sitting the 14 subjects of ground studies how many questions will you have to answer in total, are they all multiple choice set tests, what is the time limit in answering the total questions set out and finally how many re-attempts do you get if you fail a subject, all assistance will be much appreciated, thank youin advance
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Hi I from Ireland aswell, What I would suggest is going for an introduction flight before going out and paying a lot of money for a course and the discovering you don't like flying at all.
I say this because alot of people ive talked to say they want to become pilots and that they love flying but when they go up in a much smaller plane that isnt the case at all. They just can't handle it and don't like it.
I hope this hasnt put you off. I fly out of Weston with the National Flight Centre I think they are a good company to train with but in about 2 years I hope to go onto train with Flight Training Eurpope,Cabair or Oxford.
Hope this helps.
I say this because alot of people ive talked to say they want to become pilots and that they love flying but when they go up in a much smaller plane that isnt the case at all. They just can't handle it and don't like it.
I hope this hasnt put you off. I fly out of Weston with the National Flight Centre I think they are a good company to train with but in about 2 years I hope to go onto train with Flight Training Eurpope,Cabair or Oxford.
Hope this helps
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