Wannabe a pilot! (And I'm too damn lazy to do a search)
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If you feel you've got sufficient intelligence to complete the course, there are plenty of schools who will take your money, then it's up to you whether you pass or not.
I can't speak from experience, but I can't imagine any employer differentiating between ATPL holders with or without the preliminary academic qualifications.
I can conceive of a scenario which will mean you having to work for a smaller, lower paid employer, but one presumes you're not in it for the money anyway!
I can't speak from experience, but I can't imagine any employer differentiating between ATPL holders with or without the preliminary academic qualifications.
I can conceive of a scenario which will mean you having to work for a smaller, lower paid employer, but one presumes you're not in it for the money anyway!
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looking for distance learning course for JAA ATPL
Sean,
Forgive me for barging in on this thread, but I noticed you said you are enrolled in a JAA ATPL distance learning course.
I am a captain for Alaska Airlines flying 737s. I am 57 yrs old, and as you may be aware our FAA will force me to retire in less than 3 years. I am interested in obtaining a JAA ATPL (well accepted worldwide) so that I may find employment outside the USA after I have turned 60. I will need to sit the 14 exams. A distance learning course in preparation seems wise to me.
Where are you enrolled?
Bill
Forgive me for barging in on this thread, but I noticed you said you are enrolled in a JAA ATPL distance learning course.
I am a captain for Alaska Airlines flying 737s. I am 57 yrs old, and as you may be aware our FAA will force me to retire in less than 3 years. I am interested in obtaining a JAA ATPL (well accepted worldwide) so that I may find employment outside the USA after I have turned 60. I will need to sit the 14 exams. A distance learning course in preparation seems wise to me.
Where are you enrolled?
Bill
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being gone is part of the job
Ray,
I have been flying professionally since 1971, married since 1979. My wife hated my job in 1979, and she still does.
I am a relatively senior captain on Alaska Airlines 737s (bidding about 62 out of 240 in the Seattle base) and I am normally gone about 280 to 300 hours per month (it prints out on my per diem allowance line on the pay sheets). That is more time away from home than most jobs. We fly (get paid for) 85 hour lines here. Duty time is usually about 155 to 165, with quite a few 2.5 to 3.0 hour sit-arounds (we sarcastically call them "productivity breaks") during our duty days.
Bill
I have been flying professionally since 1971, married since 1979. My wife hated my job in 1979, and she still does.
I am a relatively senior captain on Alaska Airlines 737s (bidding about 62 out of 240 in the Seattle base) and I am normally gone about 280 to 300 hours per month (it prints out on my per diem allowance line on the pay sheets). That is more time away from home than most jobs. We fly (get paid for) 85 hour lines here. Duty time is usually about 155 to 165, with quite a few 2.5 to 3.0 hour sit-arounds (we sarcastically call them "productivity breaks") during our duty days.
Bill
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Being a Pilot?
Hi,
I am a student currently aspiring to be a pilot, wondering if anyone here has any information on (Requirements, License (Fees), Scholarships, etc needed).Would really be grateful to you guys if you could sound out some examples.
I know that different airlines have different requirements but is there a basic requirement like eyesight, fitness (diabetic, BMI, etc)?
And as for the fees, if one doesn't has a scholarship provided by a particular airline, how much does he need to pay to get a license, etc.
With Regards,
Adrenaline
I am a student currently aspiring to be a pilot, wondering if anyone here has any information on (Requirements, License (Fees), Scholarships, etc needed).Would really be grateful to you guys if you could sound out some examples.
I know that different airlines have different requirements but is there a basic requirement like eyesight, fitness (diabetic, BMI, etc)?
And as for the fees, if one doesn't has a scholarship provided by a particular airline, how much does he need to pay to get a license, etc.
With Regards,
Adrenaline
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live the dream
first of all, i'd like to say hi to everyone.
my problem is, i would like to get my pilots lic, enabling myself to get to a level of either biz jets, or cargo.
i'm a complete beginer, but not naive. i know it will cost loads, in time and money. i have looked at the forums, to try and pick out a flying school abroad, but the jury is still out on that one......
as a beginer, i'm having trouble with some of the abbreviations, and also unsure what qualifications or courses i actually need to get to the level i would like.
please can someone help.
many thanks,
gary
my problem is, i would like to get my pilots lic, enabling myself to get to a level of either biz jets, or cargo.
i'm a complete beginer, but not naive. i know it will cost loads, in time and money. i have looked at the forums, to try and pick out a flying school abroad, but the jury is still out on that one......
as a beginer, i'm having trouble with some of the abbreviations, and also unsure what qualifications or courses i actually need to get to the level i would like.
please can someone help.
many thanks,
gary
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Hi Gary,
To fly commercially you need an ATPL (airline transport pilots licence) you can still get the CPL (commercial pilot licence) however this would restrict you to certain types of work.
The two ways of getting this is integrated or modular
Intergrated, basically you join a school and leave about a year later and a lot poorer (£50-£70k) with a frozen atpl.
Modular you do your PPL (private pilot licence) 45 hr flying plus 7 written exams.
Build hours until 150 total time 100 pic (pilot in command eg on your own)
14 written exams
night rating 5 hrs flying
CPL course 25 hrs flying single engine complex (variable pitch prop and retractable undercarriage)
Twin rating 6 hrs
IR (instrument rating )55 hrs flying in a twin
MCC Multi crew co-operation
all that gives you a frozen ATPL or CPL/IR after 1500 hours plus other criteria you ATPL is unfrozen.
You can swap certain things around but that is basically the format all those times are minimum time and all examinations fees both written and flying will be on top of any prices you've seen, oh yeah and a class one medical is required.Modular will still cost about £50k and when checking schools abroad make sure they are JAR otherwise you will need to convert your licences. There is a book written by Clive Hughes "guide to becoming an airline pilot" a worthwhile read you should be able to get it from www.transair.co.uk
To fly commercially you need an ATPL (airline transport pilots licence) you can still get the CPL (commercial pilot licence) however this would restrict you to certain types of work.
The two ways of getting this is integrated or modular
Intergrated, basically you join a school and leave about a year later and a lot poorer (£50-£70k) with a frozen atpl.
Modular you do your PPL (private pilot licence) 45 hr flying plus 7 written exams.
Build hours until 150 total time 100 pic (pilot in command eg on your own)
14 written exams
night rating 5 hrs flying
CPL course 25 hrs flying single engine complex (variable pitch prop and retractable undercarriage)
Twin rating 6 hrs
IR (instrument rating )55 hrs flying in a twin
MCC Multi crew co-operation
all that gives you a frozen ATPL or CPL/IR after 1500 hours plus other criteria you ATPL is unfrozen.
You can swap certain things around but that is basically the format all those times are minimum time and all examinations fees both written and flying will be on top of any prices you've seen, oh yeah and a class one medical is required.Modular will still cost about £50k and when checking schools abroad make sure they are JAR otherwise you will need to convert your licences. There is a book written by Clive Hughes "guide to becoming an airline pilot" a worthwhile read you should be able to get it from www.transair.co.uk
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i wish to become a pilot
hi im daniel and i wish to become a commercial pilot.at this moment in time i have no experience of flying as i am only sixteen.at the moment i am resitting 2 gcse and am currently studying a Btec national diploma in the built environment.i am hoping you could give me advice on where to go to find out about sponserships as becoming a commercial pilot is very 'pricy!!'
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yeah i believe you are correct in getting a medical and the built environment is studying surveying and architecture.I have thought this through many times and am willing to do anything to be able to pursue my dream career.i Have reviewed many ways of pursuing my career and am lookng for advice on the best possible way
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Daniel634,
What have you got your GCSE's in, have you got a-c in maths, science/physics and english?
The "sponsorships", note the inverted commas are not actually funded by the airline, you pay for the training and upon completion if there are vacancies, you would be taken on. You are monitored throughout.
Even these schemes require two Alevels and a lot of the time in a science/maths based Alevels.
What have you got your GCSE's in, have you got a-c in maths, science/physics and english?
The "sponsorships", note the inverted commas are not actually funded by the airline, you pay for the training and upon completion if there are vacancies, you would be taken on. You are monitored throughout.
Even these schemes require two Alevels and a lot of the time in a science/maths based Alevels.
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i have a-c in maths science and english lang,eng lit and business i am doing btec national which is the equilvalent to 3 a levels.is that sufficient to do any of these schemes ?
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yeah i totally agree.A National diploma is the equiva;ent to 3 a levels like i said and on most cadet schemes i have researched they have asked for two a levels or the equivalent.I just need to find ways of financing my training as i believe i have all other aspects clear.I believe the best thing for me to do is to gain a ppl as this will open a lot of doors for me and give me a wider range of routes and different types of financing i checked out the air atlantique and as you said the only stipulation is the four year bond!!
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What A levels and degree (if any)?
Sponsorship Programmes?
Loans for funding Flying Training
Background Info on the process of obtaining a professional licence and getting a job.
All these threads are linked to in the Archive Reference Threads - READ BEFORE YOU POST A QUESTION! sticky thread.
Scroggs
Sponsorship Programmes?
Loans for funding Flying Training
Background Info on the process of obtaining a professional licence and getting a job.
All these threads are linked to in the Archive Reference Threads - READ BEFORE YOU POST A QUESTION! sticky thread.
Scroggs
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need your help in commercial pilot License
hi
i have PPL and now flying to collect more hours in flying club,
is it possible to obtain a CPL from south africa if i have 250 hours 100 PIC and 20 cross-country solo?
how to get my CPL.
waiting....
i have PPL and now flying to collect more hours in flying club,
is it possible to obtain a CPL from south africa if i have 250 hours 100 PIC and 20 cross-country solo?
how to get my CPL.
waiting....
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I want eventually to fly a widebody(SIA, CX, BA, etc.). Let's say that after school(having approx 200TT) I can choose either turboprop job(captain after 3-4 years) OR a job flying business jets as FO(x years to captain). Which would you choose? Which job would you consider being more useful to later get a job at the airlines mentioned(or any other major/legacy)? I'm 28 years old when I get my fATPL if that matters.
The turboprop would be ATR 72 and business jet is falcon 20.
The turboprop would be ATR 72 and business jet is falcon 20.
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HELP!
Hey Everyone!
Im hoping that someone out there can help me with my problem as im really stuck at the moment.
I have my PPL
and now im looking to all that commerical stuff, however ive no clue what im surposed to do.
I know I have to get my ATPLs, CPL, and IR, but is there anything else? and im only 20 and ive read/heared somewhere that there might be an age restriction on the ATPLs, is there? and do I need my night and IMC ratings before I do the ATPLs aswell?
Anything anyone can do to help me, I will be VVVVVVV greatful!
Thanks
Im hoping that someone out there can help me with my problem as im really stuck at the moment.
I have my PPL
and now im looking to all that commerical stuff, however ive no clue what im surposed to do.I know I have to get my ATPLs, CPL, and IR, but is there anything else? and im only 20 and ive read/heared somewhere that there might be an age restriction on the ATPLs, is there? and do I need my night and IMC ratings before I do the ATPLs aswell?
Anything anyone can do to help me, I will be VVVVVVV greatful!
Thanks
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ok this is my humble advice........
Go and do your 14 ATPL exams. The revision will take several months.
Then do your cpl which should be about an extra 100 hrs ish if you are around the 50 hrs mark.
Then multi engine class rating taking 10 hrs on a twin.
Then i/r....40 hrs.
Then mcc and the airlines will be ready for you
Go and do your 14 ATPL exams. The revision will take several months.
Then do your cpl which should be about an extra 100 hrs ish if you are around the 50 hrs mark.
Then multi engine class rating taking 10 hrs on a twin.
Then i/r....40 hrs.
Then mcc and the airlines will be ready for you
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Hi Monkeys.
PPL (which you have)
14 theory exams (ATPLs) your age is fine
Night rating which you can do during your above ground school study
Hour building to a toatal of 150 hrs prior to starting CPL (100 hrs PIC)
Then M/E if you have done your CPL on a complex single ie arrow..
Then I/R
Then MCC
then thats you done.
PPL (which you have)
14 theory exams (ATPLs) your age is fine
Night rating which you can do during your above ground school study
Hour building to a toatal of 150 hrs prior to starting CPL (100 hrs PIC)
Then M/E if you have done your CPL on a complex single ie arrow..
Then I/R
Then MCC
then thats you done.