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Old 2nd Oct 2006, 20:07
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Orland Flight Training Cost

Hi, im just new to this but i've been looking at the Orlando Flight Training website and its got they offer a JAA FROZEN ATPL for £26,495. To me that sounds to cheap but i was just wondering if everyone else thought it was a bit cheap.

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Old 3rd Oct 2006, 19:38
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You will find everywhere you go people will have problems with a company and others won't.

Me personally I went to OFT and found it OK, it has the potential to be a great school and it'll be intresting to see how the groundschool goes, like all places there are good and not so good instructors I would go when its not summer as its busy and wx is crap after 1300z most days. maybe they should employ a student liason officer who the students can approach with any problems????

I did have some problems which were sorted out with no problems the staff were great especially the fine young lady upstairs

Winghouse!!!!! only hooters for me baby!
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Old 4th Oct 2006, 22:46
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OFT is a Very Good School

I was at OFT back in 2003, and went back there in January 05 to keep current on my PPL and Multi. OFT is a very good school, and I enjoyed everyday I spent there. Just like any organisation in the world, there are problems, and they do their best to resolve them. There was a constant changing of Ops staff and Mx staff but the instructors were really nice people with a lot of knowledge.

I am looking to go out there again this January to re validate my PPL / Multi and I am really looking forward to it. I've heard people talk about how bad their multi's are, but their Seminole was a sweet aircraft and one thats a pleasure to fly.

After completing my ATPL ground school i'm going to go to OFT to do my Multi CPL as I feel that they are a good sound school.

People talk about how easy it is to fly out in the states, but as someone pointed out earlier, you try navigating through miles and miles of nothing but swamp land.

Just like any flight school, its as good as you make it. Go there to fly, study and enjoy yourself!

If you want to know anything else about my time at OFT go ahead and email me.

(and just for the record Winghouse anyday!!)
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Old 5th Oct 2006, 09:20
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hey guys just wandering but what is the winghouse ??? and also what else is there to do if you have spare time in the evenings ?
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If you go to OFT you must go to Winghouse! I was there a few years ago, got the T-shirt and saw the tasty chicks!!
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Old 6th Oct 2006, 01:41
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I currently only just finished training over in OFT. I thought that the instructors and facilities there are top class. But they do try and get you to hand as much money as they can from you. They increased the prices when I was halfway through my PPL, which was quite a pain in the ass. But even the BCAU students there which was a big bunch with cabair doing there degree was fed up with OFT taking all there money. Even one of my friends that I studied with over there with, he's now changed to oxford instead of cabair because of that. Its lucky I had some extra money with me. But be careful with the small writing. The flying availability is good over there, the instructors, the crew, even the CFI andrew is a real cool guy, any questions just ask him, he'll always be happy to help. Also moreg the dispatcher is a real nice person aswell dispatching the planes. I personlly wouldn't want to return there because they try and ripp you off by taking more money and changing prices halfway, also by not keeping to there advertised price, but with so many friendly crew and people there, i'm happy to go back. The accomodation is great aswell, but becareful theres always thunderstorms in the afternoon everyday, but apart from that the flying weather is always very good. But just renemeber to bring more money, cause you'll really definetaly need it. But overall the the fleet and crew is very good, even though i got restricted on my building hours without going into class B airspace cause I didn't have an FAA restricted PPL straight after I got my license. But its good there you can go and visit the mouse in disneyworld which is fun, and also nice good restraunts there. Anyway i'll be back there next summer for my JAA ME CPL anyway. So hope to see anyone who is going there soon anyway, don't hesitate to contact me.

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Thought OFT was vey good for what they offered - but do stay on top of your account, as it is easy (whether by accident or otherwise) for the company to charge you full rate without discounting to any special pre-booked rate that you may have arranged.

I did my hour building, CPL and night rating out there Aug '05 and had a great time with good instruction and passed in min hours - thanks Ray and Stuart!

Was examined by Keygrip - a top examiner, and keen to put you at ease before your test. Am now flying a jet for a fairly large UK airline, and loving it. The hard work is worth it in the end! I do miss the x-country's to Key West, Venice, Miami etc though. And the Winghouse is a must, or the British Pub over the road that serves a reasonable Stella!
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JAA Frozen ATPL in the US

Hi, i'm new to this website. hello to all fellow aspiring pilots :]

I'm currently doing my JAA PPL here in the UK [blackbushe aviation, surrey] i have about 20hrs C152 and am about to start my exams. After passing my PPL I am planning to further my training outside the UK to the issuance of a JAA Frozen ATPL. I'm really looking to talk to anyone who has taken the same path that I am planning to, and also info on schools in the US. I was looking strongly into Orlando Flight Training at Kissemmee, FL but I have heard some bad reviews with regards to bookings/plane condition/hidden costs and also that they have only started the ATPL courses this month.

I obviously have a lot to learn and research before embarking on anything, so any information will be useful.

regards, Peter

email: [email protected]
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Smile KeyGrip

Keygrip - is your name Paul or Andrew ... give me a clue?!

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Old 14th Oct 2006, 13:05
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I did my PPL, Night Rating, Hour Build and Multi rating out there....

Well....had a great time, interesting and fantastic students. Staff not too bad - could have been worse, could have been better!

Enjoy

How do Crosswind Limits (met him out at OFT)
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Old 16th Oct 2006, 22:21
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HI THERE,

WILL BE ATTENDING OFT FOR 8 WEEKS (PPL/MULTI/HOURBUILD/IMC etc) AS OF DECEMBER 1ST 2006 ,WILL ANYBODY BE THERE AT THE SAME TIME.? I'M ALSO A LITTLE CONFUSED AS TO HOW THE PAYMENT STRUCTURE WILL WORK ONCE THERE, I'VE BEEN TOLD OF BASIC COSTS +FUEL +EXAMS +KITCHEN SINK etc, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE I SHOULD BE AWARE OF AS I DONT WISH TO BE CAUGHT OFF GUARD!

REGARDS

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Old 18th Oct 2006, 10:03
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just wandering rossco but in terms of paying for the course are you paying as you go or all at once ?

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Old 18th Oct 2006, 13:24
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it seems the best rate is available paying up front, presumably one can keep a tight handle on an your account once over there? Your thoughts sir?
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Old 18th Oct 2006, 19:44
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JAA in usa

does anyone know of a good flight school in the us or canada where i can get JAA ATPL. I was looking into Orlanda Flight Training does anyone have any coments about them?
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Old 21st Oct 2006, 11:35
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OFT - JAA PPL September 06

Hi all!

I would recommend OFT as I didn't have any major problems with them, and if I had a problem then they would sort it out for me. Andrew (previous chief examiner) was extremely helpful. I know of a couple of people who had grumbles about OFT for various reasons, but the majority of people were happy with OFT's services and I was glad that I chose OFT for my PPL. I did go over budget, $2000 ... which I was a bit miffed about, but i'm sure that everyone goes over budget in flying, it's an expensive game. It took me 5 weeks to get my PPL (first time pass ), and that included having a couple of days off just to chill, which I would recommend as it helps to have a break now and again. When I arrived at OFT I started my PPL in a C152, but I didn't get on with it so I changed onto the Cadet (PA 28) which was much better to fly, and I would recommend training in it.

The instructors were good, and they were all approachable. 'Bobby' and Herman even went out of their way to help me when I wasn't even their student, which says what great guys they were . In total, I ended up flying with 7 instructors, which I think may have hampered my progress a bit (my main grumble), as at seemed as though every instructor had a different way of carrying out manouvers, etc. I would also recommend that wherever you are thinking of doing your PPL/further training to make sure you know how to carry out the manouvers/proceedures that you need for your skills test. I was only taught how to do a short-field take-off/ how to use a VOR (to get a position-fix) two days before my skills test, as my first instructor (now left) omitted to teach me.

So, as I have said, I would recommend them, and I would consider them for further training, so I think that says it all really?

PP

PS. In response to the previous threads about OFT, and not paying up front, a friendly warning ... if you don't pay for the whole course up front (as I found out) they won't let you train.
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Old 21st Oct 2006, 11:46
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PS. In response to the previous threads about OFT, and not paying up front, a friendly warning ... if you don't pay for the whole course up front (as I found out) they won't let you train.
Then don't go. I'm serious; if the school insists you pay up front, without using an escrow account to protect you if they go bust, you deserve to lose all your money - as several wannabes have done in the past. The list of bankrupt flight schools is long and dispiriting - and, as a customer, you are last in the line when it comes to distribution of the remaining assets.

Do not do it. Sod how good the school is, NEVER PAY UP FRONT!

Is that clear enough?

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Old 21st Oct 2006, 13:30
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OFT

To the point and very much appreciated Mr Scroggs, have spoken to OFT and they will accept broken payments.

Greatful as ever PPRUNE,

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Andrew CFI

Hey just wondered if andrew the CFI has left OFT?, as I think he was a top class examiner and CFI even though I did have a few problems with him at first with me breaking nav lights e.t.c haha. But guess overall he was a good guy. Also about the payments to OFT I still have a good $5000 left over there damn, going to leave it till my CPL comes in the summer. But can someone tell me whats happened to OFT so far?

Thanks

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