Pilot Training College, Waterford, Ireland
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MPL
Multi Crew Pilots Licence which will start to come into effect next year phased introduction.
Will include a type rating, as part of the licence
Only be available via a route similar to integrated.
I am not pushing the integrated route as many schools are expensive, but you only get the services that you pay for.
MCC and JOT are not always included
MCC = Multi crew co-operation.
JOT = Jet orientation course.
As a current airline Captain I would recommend the Latter as an add on for all students.
Preferable following the MCC course so that the training is continuous.
Look for a school that offers both, possibly as a package.
Multi Crew Pilots Licence which will start to come into effect next year phased introduction.
Will include a type rating, as part of the licence
Only be available via a route similar to integrated.
I am not pushing the integrated route as many schools are expensive, but you only get the services that you pay for.
MCC and JOT are not always included
MCC = Multi crew co-operation.
JOT = Jet orientation course.
As a current airline Captain I would recommend the Latter as an add on for all students.
Preferable following the MCC course so that the training is continuous.
Look for a school that offers both, possibly as a package.
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Atp D/l
Hello all,
Has anyone used PTC to do there ATP exams via distance learning?
What was the material, pre-exam ground school, online support etc.like? Any recommendations or otherwise?
Thanks in advance,
B.
Has anyone used PTC to do there ATP exams via distance learning?
What was the material, pre-exam ground school, online support etc.like? Any recommendations or otherwise?
Thanks in advance,
B.
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Has anyone used PTC to do there ATP exams via distance learning?
What was the material, pre-exam ground school, online support etc.like? Any recommendations or otherwise?
What was the material, pre-exam ground school, online support etc.like? Any recommendations or otherwise?
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Yup, I'll back that up.
Get the books off them, sign up for bristol questions, and it's up to you to do the work for yourself. Ground school consolidation thing is slightly helpful but nothing special. Just a chance to try and get some questions answered that had you stumped, albeit a little too close to the actual exams for comfort.
Get the books off them, sign up for bristol questions, and it's up to you to do the work for yourself. Ground school consolidation thing is slightly helpful but nothing special. Just a chance to try and get some questions answered that had you stumped, albeit a little too close to the actual exams for comfort.
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PTC - AIB Funding- Security Required
Hi Everyone,
I am looking for information about the AIB Loan provided to potential future pilots who train with PTC, and would appreciate it greatly if anyone with any information can post a reply to my queries.
Basically I would be looking for 100% course funding and I am trying to find out what security is normally required on the funding.
Also I understand that the course is €85,000. I realise that there is a strong likelihood of overrunning this sum and extra funding is likely to be required for extra training. Can anyone guestimate as to how much this extra funding usually runs to?
Finally what are the terms of the loan and does anyone have figures on the percentage of students that take out the loan in order to fund their training.
Thanks for you anticipated help.
Zaffaran
I am looking for information about the AIB Loan provided to potential future pilots who train with PTC, and would appreciate it greatly if anyone with any information can post a reply to my queries.
Basically I would be looking for 100% course funding and I am trying to find out what security is normally required on the funding.
Also I understand that the course is €85,000. I realise that there is a strong likelihood of overrunning this sum and extra funding is likely to be required for extra training. Can anyone guestimate as to how much this extra funding usually runs to?
Finally what are the terms of the loan and does anyone have figures on the percentage of students that take out the loan in order to fund their training.
Thanks for you anticipated help.
Zaffaran
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Thanks Guys. Some sobering thoughts there. However if it is something that you can see yourself spending the rest of your life at, then to me €170,000 euro is obviously a very sizeable but worthwhile investment in your future(even at 27 - I nearly started crying- It was the first time I've actually felt old ! LOL). FO's and Captains seem to be well rewarded for their expertise, endevours and sacrafices, so paying off €170,000 over 7 or so years doesn't seem impossible. I know that alot of people say that there are cheaper ways of getting your licence, but for me the most organised and thorough course available at the moment seems to be the one being run by PTC. This may be down to an unorganised approach to my research,and if so I apologise but I have researched all avenues known to me. If there are other schools out there that I don't know of which basically take all the organisation out of the Pilot Training Course and as a result let you focus on your course modules in order to obtain your licence in a quick and efficient manner I would greatly appreciate it if you could let me know of them so as I can research them myself. Finally am I being unreasonable in my assumptions, as I would have thought that even at my age there are people out there who have completed their pilot training through getting full funding from a financial organisation and haven't found repaying the sum too stressful an ordeal.
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Stay Away From These Guys!!!
Hi,
PTC are money grabbers, they took thousands off a friend of mine and for WHAT? my friend didnt even get much flying or instruction from them. This person went somewhere else abroad and is recieving proper tuition, structure and flying! PTC give bad groundschool, there instructors attitudes stink they do not care about the students. From people i have spoken with who have been with this company i have heard when you do speak up about any problems regarding your account, bookings, instructors etc you are basically warned to shut up and put up or your training will be terminated. I believe ptc are bullies, and only care about money. Its disgraceful, i am so angry and digusted that they get away with this. I am a pilot myself, and the stories i have heard and seen on here have disgusted me, there are only a handful of good things being said about ptc on here, i have never seen so many bad stories about one company in all the time ive been on this site, it has taken me 2 hours to get through everything, that just tells you something about them.
Stay away from them, look at schools in britain and the us, airlines want quality people from good schools not mickey mouse schools like ptc, the quality coming from ptc is by no means excellent maybe a few exceptionally good people but nothing more. And believe me i know, i am in the world of aviation and i see and hear a lot!
PTC are money grabbers, they took thousands off a friend of mine and for WHAT? my friend didnt even get much flying or instruction from them. This person went somewhere else abroad and is recieving proper tuition, structure and flying! PTC give bad groundschool, there instructors attitudes stink they do not care about the students. From people i have spoken with who have been with this company i have heard when you do speak up about any problems regarding your account, bookings, instructors etc you are basically warned to shut up and put up or your training will be terminated. I believe ptc are bullies, and only care about money. Its disgraceful, i am so angry and digusted that they get away with this. I am a pilot myself, and the stories i have heard and seen on here have disgusted me, there are only a handful of good things being said about ptc on here, i have never seen so many bad stories about one company in all the time ive been on this site, it has taken me 2 hours to get through everything, that just tells you something about them.
Stay away from them, look at schools in britain and the us, airlines want quality people from good schools not mickey mouse schools like ptc, the quality coming from ptc is by no means excellent maybe a few exceptionally good people but nothing more. And believe me i know, i am in the world of aviation and i see and hear a lot!
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€170,000!!!! Have you gone mad! sorry but where are you getting this figure from? if anybody is even remotely considering or suggesting this figure for pilot training (modular or integrated) then they need their head examined. knock off at least €70,000 and then you and coming to a more reasonably figure
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Can you give us more details of what happened to your friend? Im a student at ptc and would be interested to hear about it. Ive seen a couple of people fail so far and end up dropping out of the course, but these people just werent up to scratch in either flying or exams. Maybe your friend just didnt have the ability?
Also ive spoken to ptc staff about my account a couple of times, and i wasnt warned to shut up, or anything like that, the issues were always dealt with satisfactorally.
Please, more details!! pm me if you dont want it on the main board.
Can you give us more details of what happened to your friend? Im a student at ptc and would be interested to hear about it. Ive seen a couple of people fail so far and end up dropping out of the course, but these people just werent up to scratch in either flying or exams. Maybe your friend just didnt have the ability?
Also ive spoken to ptc staff about my account a couple of times, and i wasnt warned to shut up, or anything like that, the issues were always dealt with satisfactorally.
Please, more details!! pm me if you dont want it on the main board.
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All you pathetic failures just love to blame everyone else don't you, cannot accept responsibility for your inadequate attitude, personality and ability.
It is very easy to post make-believe 'facts' when you are anonymous and work for the other less prestigious schools.
(ask Stapleford about their less than impressive IR '1st time' pass rate, and that does not include partials)
If all your experiences are so true Jonah07 tell us who you are and the flightdeck you are now on
probably a C172 (microsoft)
No one at PTC bullies anyone! Yes it is hard work. It is up to the student to put the work and dedication in to pass this course, the standards are very high, including in house tests before you are allowed to go for IAA tests.
It never fails to amaze me at the number of people who want something for nothing...if you pay peanuts you get monkeys.
It is very easy to post make-believe 'facts' when you are anonymous and work for the other less prestigious schools.
(ask Stapleford about their less than impressive IR '1st time' pass rate, and that does not include partials)
If all your experiences are so true Jonah07 tell us who you are and the flightdeck you are now on
probably a C172 (microsoft)No one at PTC bullies anyone! Yes it is hard work. It is up to the student to put the work and dedication in to pass this course, the standards are very high, including in house tests before you are allowed to go for IAA tests.
It never fails to amaze me at the number of people who want something for nothing...if you pay peanuts you get monkeys.
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hi guys
as a student who went the modular route and was at both ptc and stapleford , i never had any problems with either school. pricewise there isnt much difference between them for aircraft hire except for the ground schools fees at ptc but then again i spent this travelling between uk and ireland with ryanair. i chose to do my ppl and hourbuilding in nz and usa ,with research its so easy to organise yourself .every school has pros and cons , thats the joy of modular you can choose where you train. what really annoys me is the irish weather dont get me going,and i am from cork, boy.
cheers macflea
as a student who went the modular route and was at both ptc and stapleford , i never had any problems with either school. pricewise there isnt much difference between them for aircraft hire except for the ground schools fees at ptc but then again i spent this travelling between uk and ireland with ryanair. i chose to do my ppl and hourbuilding in nz and usa ,with research its so easy to organise yourself .every school has pros and cons , thats the joy of modular you can choose where you train. what really annoys me is the irish weather dont get me going,and i am from cork, boy.
cheers macflea
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PTC wot a joke
PTC is a joke , they are just a highly traind team of sales people . I would not have a good word to say about the place the sooner the better they go to the wall Just look at the facts 
all of the students are passing the exams , they only have 1 twin for the amount of students , I have to hand it to PTC they got there sales pitch down to a tee . As the great Mr bush once said fool me once shame on you , fool me twice i wont get fooled again . Happy Crimbo PTC 
all of the students are passing the exams , they only have 1 twin for the amount of students , I have to hand it to PTC they got there sales pitch down to a tee . As the great Mr bush once said fool me once shame on you , fool me twice i wont get fooled again . Happy Crimbo PTC
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Instructor Career Program
Hi everybody!!
Has anyone knows something about the Instructor Career Program by PTC? They say that all the pilots that successfully complete the course, will get a job with them or one of their affiliates. Is it true???
Thanks a lot!!
Has anyone knows something about the Instructor Career Program by PTC? They say that all the pilots that successfully complete the course, will get a job with them or one of their affiliates. Is it true???
Thanks a lot!!
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I think that instructor programme just started this year. "They say" that after you have completed it your gauranteed a bonded position with them for 2 years and after that they'll set up an interview for you with aer arann. Does anyone have experience in doing the course???
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How would anyone have any experience doing this course if it has just started this year?
PTC is a joke , they are just a highly traind team of sales people
Believe it or not there are greener pastures than Ireland!
DK
