Pilot Training College, Waterford, Ireland
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Hi there Souths, would that be Farranfore then, I used to fly into there in Munster Joinerys Citation Jet (as a passenger) and lived in Killarney..you are a tad limited for choice of flight schools in that neck of the woods.
I dont envy your position at all, its a mine field when it comes to finding a flight school.
Best advice I could offer is to try and get copies of a newspaper called FTN (Flight Training News) this usually contains lists of flight schools in Ireland and UK, and also buy Pilot or Todays Pilot magazine, available from the newsagents opposite the little Tesco in Killarney, again it contains adverts for flight training.
Draw up a list of ones that interest you and try and visit them places so you can speak to current students and see what the set up is like, and if you feel comfortable with the place and instructors.
Not many places include accomodation and if they do, chances are you will find cheaper places to stay than what the school are charging.
It all also depends on your budget, and if you can commit full time to training,
there are 2 options the Modular route where you can do the training full time or in stages and take breaks after each module to go back to work if needs be, or Integrated route full time course, a search on here will explain more about this, again a search on here will give advice on the schools you may shortlist.
There is an exhibition coming up soon at Heathrow,
http://www.flyer.co.uk/exhibitions/London/index.php
Hope this helps, and good luck.
Bobster1
I dont envy your position at all, its a mine field when it comes to finding a flight school.
Best advice I could offer is to try and get copies of a newspaper called FTN (Flight Training News) this usually contains lists of flight schools in Ireland and UK, and also buy Pilot or Todays Pilot magazine, available from the newsagents opposite the little Tesco in Killarney, again it contains adverts for flight training.
Draw up a list of ones that interest you and try and visit them places so you can speak to current students and see what the set up is like, and if you feel comfortable with the place and instructors.
Not many places include accomodation and if they do, chances are you will find cheaper places to stay than what the school are charging.
It all also depends on your budget, and if you can commit full time to training,
there are 2 options the Modular route where you can do the training full time or in stages and take breaks after each module to go back to work if needs be, or Integrated route full time course, a search on here will explain more about this, again a search on here will give advice on the schools you may shortlist.
There is an exhibition coming up soon at Heathrow,
http://www.flyer.co.uk/exhibitions/London/index.php
Hope this helps, and good luck.
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If you want to talk to students from PTC you can go onto their bebo page on http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=4411928033 it has past and current students.
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Hi Bobster1
Yes it was Farranfore that I flew from and its really beautiful down there.
I used to love to fly over the lakes and out to sea was so smooth.
At the time there was no good school in Ireland and I wasn't ready to move away so I was excited when I heard about PTC in waterford and my mind started racing again.
actually i have an important question. Is it ok to have laser eye treatment??
Souths
Yes it was Farranfore that I flew from and its really beautiful down there.
I used to love to fly over the lakes and out to sea was so smooth.
At the time there was no good school in Ireland and I wasn't ready to move away so I was excited when I heard about PTC in waterford and my mind started racing again.
actually i have an important question. Is it ok to have laser eye treatment??
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Refractive surgery
Heres the link to the CAA website, with regards
to laser surgery, its a PDF file
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/49/SRG_MED-JARClass1InitialVisStds[2189].pdf
Looks like it should not stand in your way.
to laser surgery, its a PDF file
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/49/SRG_MED-JARClass1InitialVisStds[2189].pdf
Looks like it should not stand in your way.
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The ptc assessment is an absolute overpriced waste of time and is so far off basing weather u are going to be good enough to become a pilot. Do your training in the u.k. you will get the best experience and instruction there-----------I mean asking you to trim an aircraft on your first flight and that load of bull on the computer----------300 euro!!!!!!!!!! They are a bunch of conartists--------there is an enough treads on this "pilot training college of ireland" to back the claim of no smoke without fire ----------however i dont need any threads to make my mind up --I saw it for myself--------------DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY ON P.T.C. ----------------p.s. distance learning for atpls aswell dont forget and no mcc i think (what are you paying 80 grand for!)
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85,000k for the course, distance atpl's and no mcc as well. It is quite expensive however I think people should make their own opinion on ptc. I don't think its for me though.
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Their idiots i was there and they told me i wasnt good enough ------------------Im now on the flight deck -ha how wrong were they?------------Go bournemouth commercial flight training-------------Their excellent or else oxford and also bristol is very good too
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Cannot see what was wrong with it!
I you read what jonah07 said earlier on this page it might put you off PTC. I am not familiar witht the BCFT but I'll give you my horror story about CTC, another respected FTO. PTC charge Ģ30 more than CTC and this involves a debriefing and an actual flight to see how you are in the air. At CTC they take your money with a sneaky smile, you do the test, if you pass (phase 2) u have another 3 stages to go through to get onto the course and if you fail they send you an email and dont bother to give you ANY feedback. My mate badgered them for feedback and 3 weeks later she got some by email but it wasn't really worth waiting for! Sure New Zealand looks great and im sure if you get onto the course you'll be very happy with it but to say PTC are bad is just dishonest... what other FTO has the statistic that 98% of its graduates get a job within 2 months of completing their training? none. u cant argue with that!
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Whatever about the 98% figure one has to admit that the statistic is pretty high in reality. I dont know of anyone that went through there that is now unemployed, within a few months of course. I stand to be corrected.I would recommend doing the ppl elsewhere and then go to PTC. No need for an assesment at that stage I reckon and alot more than 300 euro saved.
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lies dammed lies and statistics
chilli dog and full rich, i know of at least two graduates that even after two years have not gained employment and both were first time pass on their IR.
A number of students did gain "employment" with FR but that came from doing an MCC with Parc. PTC will NOT gain you a job in the aviation market, it comes down to your own skills, personality and a big dose of luck. Once my friend left there, he received no assistance or correspondence from any one at PTC regarding job hunting. Dont waste your money
A number of students did gain "employment" with FR but that came from doing an MCC with Parc. PTC will NOT gain you a job in the aviation market, it comes down to your own skills, personality and a big dose of luck. Once my friend left there, he received no assistance or correspondence from any one at PTC regarding job hunting. Dont waste your money
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Hi 420 HB,Are you able to put me in touch with those guys you know that trained with PTC? It'd be a great help if i could speak to someone that had first hand experience with PTC. I am especially interested because I got onto their course recently and should be starting in the new year. If that statistic is false how are they legally able to claim it? Would you advise training somewhere else and then go to Parc Aviation for the MCC? (since they seem to have the good ties with airlines?). When I did the assessment at waterford i asked them what the instructor/pupil ratio was also and they said 2:1. At this moent in time I have no real concrete reason to doubt anything they say since I havent spoken with anyone that has first hand experience. I am not doubting what you say, its just that I need to research this further.Cheers, Chillydogg.
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hey
hey just wondering would you be able to give me any tips or ideas of waht this assesement day actually invilves im aware flight and computer test but any further info id appreciate
cheers
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PTC's assetment is a pure JOKE administrated by pilot, verdict given by beancounters and marketing staff. I wouldn't even bother, even my grandmā would be admited.
The only box you really need to tick is the last question: "...can you afford to fork out 75k+ euros.
Another Irish joke in the purest FR style...
DK
The only box you really need to tick is the last question: "...can you afford to fork out 75k+ euros.
Another Irish joke in the purest FR style...
DK
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Hi,
The PTC assessment involves a c. 2 hour computer based COMPASS test- similar to that of Oxford Aviation and Cabair's Bournemouth facility. You can find out the contents of this online by searching for the COMPASS test. It is prety straight forward stuff involving basic Maths, multi-tasking and coordination tests. After this you have a flight of between 30mins to an hour to see how you react to instruction and if you are comfortable in the aircraft. All together it is a stressful occasion but the flying's great fun! Hope you dont have to wait about for 3.5 hours between your flight and COMPASS test like I had to!- nerve racking! Just get a good nights sleep and a breakfast before you go and you'll do just fine! It's nothing to worry about but you do need to be on the ball. After this if you meet the requirements you will be taken aside to speak about the possibility of you joining the course and that talk for me lasted about 40 mins since I had a lot of questions to ask. you'll be informed of the next steps then if you wish to pursue it further. Just go and enjoy it!
Hope this is a more constructive post than most on here!
The PTC assessment involves a c. 2 hour computer based COMPASS test- similar to that of Oxford Aviation and Cabair's Bournemouth facility. You can find out the contents of this online by searching for the COMPASS test. It is prety straight forward stuff involving basic Maths, multi-tasking and coordination tests. After this you have a flight of between 30mins to an hour to see how you react to instruction and if you are comfortable in the aircraft. All together it is a stressful occasion but the flying's great fun! Hope you dont have to wait about for 3.5 hours between your flight and COMPASS test like I had to!- nerve racking! Just get a good nights sleep and a breakfast before you go and you'll do just fine! It's nothing to worry about but you do need to be on the ball. After this if you meet the requirements you will be taken aside to speak about the possibility of you joining the course and that talk for me lasted about 40 mins since I had a lot of questions to ask. you'll be informed of the next steps then if you wish to pursue it further. Just go and enjoy it!
Hope this is a more constructive post than most on here!
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My only advice to anyone thinking of attending PTC is just to talk to former students, especially those that attended in the last 3 months.
Be wary of any school that has heavy marketing...those fancy marketing campaigns/websites need to be funded somehow!
Good instruction is what you need at the end of the day.
In my opinion, there is no need to pay any flight school for an aptitude test etc..it is a marketing tool pure and simple.
Be wary of any school that has heavy marketing...those fancy marketing campaigns/websites need to be funded somehow!
Good instruction is what you need at the end of the day.
In my opinion, there is no need to pay any flight school for an aptitude test etc..it is a marketing tool pure and simple.
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All together it is a stressful occasion but the flying's great fun!
After this if you meet the requirements you will be taken aside to speak about the possibility of you joining the course and that talk for me lasted about 40 mins since I had a lot of questions to ask. you'll be informed of the next steps then if you wish to pursue it further.
Hope this is a more constructive post than most on here!
My only advice to anyone thinking of attending PTC is just to talk to former students, especially those that attended in the last 3 months.
In my opinion, there is no need to pay any flight school for an aptitude test etc..it is a marketing tool pure and simple.
Regards
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Daylight Robbery
DK said
Dk,I couldn't agree more with you.The fact of the matter is that less than 10% of the guys who actually go through the assessment process sign up for the program.Easy money for them and squeezing us even tighter.(295 Altogether incl flight) 140 quid for sitting in front of a computer for 2 hours,you must be having a laugh!!!Most people are paid to do that!!!!
And it's 85k now,inlfation my a**e
CP out.
PTC's assetment is a pure JOKE administrated by pilot, verdict given by beancounters and marketing staff. I wouldn't even bother, even my grandmā would be admited.
The only box you really need to tick is the last question: "...can you afford to fork out 75k+ euros.
Another Irish joke in the purest FR style...
DK
The only box you really need to tick is the last question: "...can you afford to fork out 75k+ euros.
Another Irish joke in the purest FR style...
DK
Dk,I couldn't agree more with you.The fact of the matter is that less than 10% of the guys who actually go through the assessment process sign up for the program.Easy money for them and squeezing us even tighter.(295 Altogether incl flight) 140 quid for sitting in front of a computer for 2 hours,you must be having a laugh!!!Most people are paid to do that!!!!
And it's 85k now,inlfation my a**e
CP out.