Pilot Training College, Waterford, Ireland

[cfwake]

well you know what i mean! in that it's more like OAT and FTE in its set up than a smaller flying school/club whose primary line of business is not atpl, if that makes sense!!!!!!!

[Potential]

PTC Assessment

Hi,
I'm going for my PTC assessment next Tuesday and have a few questions. Given that the assessment seems less formal than for other FTOs I was going to go for smart dress, without going for a full suit. Would others who have been agree that this would be satisfactory? Also there doesn't seem to be any interview mentioned, just a briefing/discussion with a training advisor. Is there no why do you want to do this? Why should we take you? What do you know about PTC etc? Also Fadge mentions a Physics test as part of the assessment. I thought it was just a flight check and Compass including the maths test? Also on that subject, what are the Maths questions like?

[Potential]

One more question - is there a bus from Waterford city to the airport or do you have to take a taxi?
Cheers

[fadge]

Potential

As far as I know there are no buses to Waterford airport but you could check the bus eireann website. If there are any, i'm sure it will be a pretty limited service so it may be easier to just get a taxi. As for the physics test, again like I said before it is nothing to get worked up about. They are not asking for formula or anything like that, just a basic understanding of physics concepts like how levers work and what happens a object when you apply a certain force to it etc. For the most part, in my opinion its common sense. Good luck with it and enjoy the day. The scenery around waterford is amazing. And regarding what to wear, i wore a polo t-shirt and a pair of Chinos...nobody battered an eyelid.

[liffey2alpha]

PTC or not??????????



Is there anyone curently training with PTC Waterford?? would you recommend them?? what are the instructers like is the big question i gather there is a large turn over of instructors is this true?? does doing the ATPL's full time from home without much instruction really work??

[davey147]

Are there any people who have airline jobs now, who trained at PTC. There must be 98% of all students who go there get airline jobs within 2 months.

[fabiensf]

Pilot training college, ireland

Anybody have any info on the ATPL DL at PTC in Ireland please?

[fullrich]

Yes, I went through PTC once. Fact is that we all got jobs and like 'most' ppruners left the board once employed. So the answer is in your question with regards jobs.
When I did the DL course the notes were the same notes as used at NAC in florida and the dl support likewise and I suspect the same now. You will need to motivate yourself to complete the course and not depend on PTC or NAC to pull you through. I studied part time and completed all in 9 months first time passes as did many others. PTC will not get you a job but will set you on the right road if of course you can pass sim checks and in most cases pay for type ratings. Rmemeber , Ireland is a small place and aviation world is even smaller .
FR

[davey147]

What email address are you using to contact them. I've been emailing them now for a month, and they dont have the decency to email back.

[Potential]

I found them pretty quick at replying to emails. I was in contact with one of their staff from their admissions office called Siobhan. Her email address is [email protected]

[aF380]

HI

PLEASE is it a good school
98% student have a job is it true
where are the ex student
which airlines

[davey147]

Wow this school is great. 98 out of 100 students placed as pilots with international airlines within 2 months of graduating, if this was true all other schools would go out of business. This is better than OATs placement rate, much better.

Everytime I ask them to justify this, they change the subject.

[aF380]

hi

so where are you now
are you in ptc

[Atlantic crossing]

Mmmm. Sounds to me like PTC are effectively offering something they can't provide. Looking at their website it says that they will get you an airline interview at month 13 of the course. From someone who is in the industry I would plead with wannabees to be very careful when choosing a training organisation, any training organisation might I add, not just this one. Their marketing depts will promise you everything they can to get you in the door. I remember the training organisation I trained with doing the same all those years ago. I am not knocking this organisation but someone came to me for advise about this place recently. I got the impression that he left the place thinking all he had to do was turn up for 13 months and a job would be waiting for him. I did my best to put him straight. From someone who now flies in the left seat I have flown with quite a few First Officers from various training organisations. I personally see a huge difference in the standards between different places. Without doubt there is quite a difference in what I would consider the top two(who shall remain nameless in case of bias but are very well known) and places like this. Sure you will pass the course but the quality of where a person trained becomes very clear when flying on the line. I believe it used to be a reasonably priced place to train but has increased in recent years and for this reason I would be pushed to recommend it. It is effectively a very expensive modular course but it all comes down to affordability. As with anything in life you pay for what you get.

Just my two cents worth. These are life changing decisions. Make them for yourself and try to push the marketing spin aside.

[davey147]

Shamrock,

Im not trying to bash anyone, i'm just wanting help from people who have been to PTC. I wasnt making anything up about the 98% placement rate, this is an exact quote from the document they have sent me:-

"Jobs: 98% of PTC graduates are in employment with an international airline
within 2 months or graduating"

So as you see from the statement above, I am getting my facts right, as usual

This is an extremely good thing to offer, something so great, they wont talk to me about it.

I was simply asking the question to current or past students who have attended this college, whether they have seen the majority of students get jobs with international airlines, within 2 months of graduating.

[diarmuid8]

I'm supposed to be starting (i.e going to Florida to start the PPL) at the end of April and to be honest I'm scared sh*tless.
I mean at the moment I dont see much employement ops out there. Aer Arann aren't recruiting FOs at this time, Aer Lingus are but I'm not sure of the chance of even getting an interview with a fATPL, 250TT & no TR. Anybody know about the prospects in the UK, not necessarly easy or BMI but the small operators??
Ryanair are always recruiting sure however, after reading the posts on this site about the airline I don't think I would consider them and more to the point I couldn't afford another €40k+.
It's scary really scary to think about being screwed by Ryanair or not getting a job offer once finnished with PTC.
I know it's supposed to be scary but I'm considering saying, "no I'm fine thanks", and going to do something else at this stage.

Any advice, appreciated.

[pipergirl]

Well, there is a lot of recruitment happening at the moment and almost all the airlines are recruiting...so I don't agree that the outlook is bleak at all.

You see, this is the choice you have when you embark on this career. It may well not work out for you and it may be highly successful for you. But it is like anything in life really, there is a chance of failure or success.

It's really up to you at the end of the day and go with your gut.

Best of luck whichever path you choose.

[dave_69]

My only advice about PTC is watch your bills.And ignore the adverts!!! Been there, good quality training but to be honest pricing is rediclous and on the increase. And no ptc havent gotten these guys into airlines.. (or the fellows i know at least) made their contacts through Parc aviation MCC course. Granted they did attend PTC before hand. Good luck with your training Diarmuid

[itsbrokenagain]

From previous professional (no I didnt work there) relations with this school... stay a long way away. This school is the devil compared to some of the now closed JAA FTO's that once existed in Florida. If you want to train with a legit Fto, try one of the bigger UK schools, they have real schools in the USA they either own or work with closely, and have real training programs, without empty fake marketing gimmick promises of an airline job. ANY school that offers a airline job at the end of a course is full of BS !

NO flight school can ascertain the requirements, or guarantee of a job at an airline regarding a person when you first walk in the door, no school can legitimately come up with marketing hype like a 98% placement rate, ITS NOT TRUE -IT CANNOT BE TRUE, and even if it was true, its wasnt the school that got those people their jobs, it was the applicant!

Also really if you think this was a true, normal everyday thing, (98% of graduates getting hired) dont you think that the real or big FTO's would be ramming it down your throat in their marketing??????????


But thats my 2 cents worth.

[phillpot]

Any info on PTC Ireland ?

Evening all,

Due to start cpl me/ir in July and I thought I had my school sorted however have stumbled across PTC and quite like the sound of them, they are little more expensive than I had planned for and I notice landing fees arent included, before I fly over there and have a look I was wondering if anyone could give me the heads up.
cheers all.