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It is worth pointing out her claim re Shuttleworth back in 2013.
Flying in an open cockpit, exposed to the elements, is not for the faint* hearted, the flight representing a formidable physical and logistical challenge - in a plane designed in the 1930s, with a top speed of 95 mph, an operating ceiling of 10,000 feet and a range of only 450 miles. But this sort of extreme flying is what Curtis-Taylor, one of the Shuttleworth Collection display pilots, has been doing all her life. Cape Town to Goodwood Tracey Curtis-Taylor Boeing Stearman November 2013 Also... The photo that I received is Stearman taxing out for departure on 27 Oct 2013 I see two people on board. Never realising the importance of the photo. I thought it was just another biplane visiting Cape Town International Airport where I work. http://www.jlpc.co.za/images/Cape_To...r_2013_Map.png Was it misreporting the same graphic was used over two years after it first appeared in South Africa? Source Johannesburg Light Plane Club http://www.jlpc.co.za/Past_Event_201...to_London.html |
jay sata there are 2 folk I am sure that are in that cockpit on the CPT taxy out photo - is that the supposedly first leg on the ''solo'' journey to UK?
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Unless my eyes are playing up again that steerman would appear to have slightly more filled seats than might traditionally be deemed appropriate for a solo flight...
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To the best of my knowledge the picture is dated before the start date on the graphic which was November 1st.
Can anyone analyse the picture date and confirm it was Cape Town? |
This was in the Mail online 9 Jan 2016
'bird in a biplane' euphoric after 13,000-mile solo flight to sydney | Daily Mail Online Her 13,000-mile route took her across Europe and the Mediterranean to Jordan, over the Arabian desert, across the Gulf of Oman to Pakistan, India and across Asia. She recreated the essence of Johnson's era of flying with an open cockpit, stick and rudder flying with basic period instruments and a short range between landing points. In 2013, she flew 8,000 miles solo from Cape Town, South Africa, to Goodwood, West Sussex, to recreate the 1928 flight of Lady Mary Heath. Maureen Dougherty, president of Boeing Australia and South Pacific, which sponsored the adventure, said: "Tracey's flight is a wonderful reminder of how far aviation has advanced and the role women have played since those early days of flight. Congratulations to Tracey and her support team on this remarkable achievement." jaysata photo is DEF taken at CPT |
The whole subject of TCT and her 'flying career' is interesting considering until three years ago she was unheard of.
I refer once again to the latest debate on wiki . If during an episode of Mastermind we heard "Name?...Tracey Curtis-Taylor; Occupation?...Aviator", I think it is safe to say the overwhelming majority of viewers would take that to mean the contestant actually flew for a living, and was not a lady of leisure who merely did aviation for a hobby. I think it is pretty self evident most people consider "occupation" to be either one's job (eg teacher), or the significant thing one does instead of a job (eg housewife, retired, unemployed). The total logged flying hours of Curtis-Taylor over 30 years is in the region of 1500. Less than one hour a week!! That is a hobby not an occupation. Listing her occupation as 'aviator' based on either time spent on task or professional status is unjustified, nor do I see a consensus to do so. Her resume insofar as it can be established from the sources that have interviewed her goes something like "bit of a mixed bag; photographer; diamond valuer; waitress; foreign office worker; gemmologist; behind the scenes airshow administrator". Beck daross (talk) 14:19, 2 November 2016 (UTC) |
It can't be a very good advertisement for Boeing, the Stearman having had an extensive refurbishment by 3G, it was apparently then deemed that an engineer was needed to ride shot-gun for the duration. Double bonus points if the engineer also happened to have a pilots licence with 20,000+ hours. Fantastic. :D
So she did have an autopilot after all sitting in the front seat. |
30 year "career" logging 1500 hours = 50 hours per year .... hardly enough to stay current.
1500 hours is two years work for the average CPL |
Re the photo posted by Jay earlier.
According to the link below she actually departed on 2nd November on the first leg of the CT to UK non "solo" flight. Cape Town to Goodwood Tracey Curtis-Taylor Boeing Stearman November 2013 Apparently the weather was not suitable on 1st which was the planned start date....(or maybe Ewald wasn't around?) |
And, for those who may be interested, the actual accident report filings made by TCT.
A few initial points of interest.
Anyone else notice anything strange? http://dms.ntsb.gov/public/59000-59499/59012/594566.pdf http://dms.ntsb.gov/public/59000-59499/59012/594567.pdf http://dms.ntsb.gov/public/59000-59499/59012/594568.pdf ** Incident/Accident as per NTSB/FAA: An accident is defined as an occurrence associated with the operation of an aircraft that takes place between the time any person boards the aircraft with the intention of flight and all such persons have disembarked, and in which any person suffers death or serious injury, or in which the aircraft receives substantial damage. An incident is an occurrence other than an accident that affects or could affect the safety of operations. (See 49 CFR 830.) |
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Question...I am puzzled by a comment I have just seen on the Capetown to Goodwood FB page - 16 December 2013.
"two chicks in a sexy plane" Who was the other "chick", or was Ewald having a gender crisis. |
TCT has ticked the box acknowledging that she has an instructor rating for SEA.
Ewald is shown as a member of the flight crew - how can that be possible? |
This is an interesting thread which may not have been seen before - if it has, mods feel free to delete. Lot's of photo's from the Cape Town start of her flight. What's funny is the number of photo's showing Ewald in the front and it isn't until page 6 someone writes 'Isn't she flying solo?'. The answer is excellent. I haven't read the rest of the thread but I'm sure it will provide some entertainment...
Tracey Curtis-Taylor's Cape to London Flight - Page 6 - AvCom It all starts going a bit wrong for her on page 12. |
Also on the "incident" (.........) report, Principal Occupation - Pilot ..............
(Looking at the pictures on that AvCom site, one thing for sure - that is a beautiful aeroplane) |
Why do both pilots log equal flight time in the preceding 24 hours ? Surely Mr Gritsch was a passenger ?
Most peculiar. |
Reading the details in the accident report is rather interesting, in as much the hours logged by both.
XXXXXXXXXXdXXEwaldXXXXTCT Last 90 DaysXXXX28XXXXXXX26 Last 30 DaysXXXX26XXXXXXX23 Last 24 HoursXXXX6XXXXXXXX6 So both are logging the hours, all we need to know in what capacity was each logging those hours. TCT is nominated as PIC on the report, so how is Ewald logging time? Ewald as PIC (instructor), TCT dual (student) is about the only means by which both could be logging time, as far as I'm aware, in a single engine that only requires a crew of one. Unless of course TCT was instructing Ewald, since she says she has an instructors rating in the report. |
Well spotted megan!
Wake up you lot, anything else? |
Well, someone who describes her occupation as a "pilot" and wears a set of RAF wings does not hold an instrument rating. And then there is a missing value for the number of hours the engine has logged. The registered owner is not TCT but we already knew that.
Anything else ? |
Images.
The date and times of images can be checked by using an exif reader. This shows the image data at the time the picture was taken, aiding anyone who wants to verify a time/date location. There are a couple of things to be aware of: If date and time are incorrectly set on the camera that will be recorded as the event time, however most people tend to have date and time set reasonably accurately. On some images, the processing/editing software may make the original exif data invisible. |
Deefer,
It appears that TCT has ticked "With limitations / waivers" on the Medical Certificate Validity. FBW |
This was in today's Telegraph obituries.
Molly Rose, Spitfire pilot ? obituary Interesting connection with the Marshall family, but what an amazing lady! The only award she got was the ATA Veterans Badge in 2008 when she was 88 years old. T C-T if you are reading this, or anyone from your team, this was a woman who really did things for both aviation and her country. A true aviatrix and adventuress. By your behaviour you defile the memory of this lady and so many others like her. Frankly; you are a disgrace. SND |
Why is EG claiming so many P2 hours in the Stearman on the incident form?
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Note that TCT medical has lapsed to a LAPL at the time of the accident. And doubt that her instructor rating is/was current.
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Originally Posted by Above The Clouds
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Ewald is listed on the form as a crew member, not a passenger.
Seems they have shot themselves in the foot by claiming those flight hours. They declared in writing that she wasn't solo. Both of them couldn't claim to be PIC/P1 at the same time so presumably one of them claimed P2 or P1/US. |
Originally Posted by deefer dog
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Well spotted megan!
Wake up you lot, anything else? I would have expected those figures to be the other way around. |
Ewald having more hours is to be expected if they were for air tests following reassembly of the aircraft. He does however appear to have logged every hour on the trip.
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I see that TCT gives her principal occupation as "pilot". (Wot no CPL?)
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Originally Posted by twothree
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Note that TCT medical has lapsed to a LAPL at the time of the accident. And doubt that her instructor rating is/was current.
Returning to this, her previous Class 2 Medical was on 5 May 2015, so it would not have expired until the end of the month 1 year later. That is, the end of the month of the accident. Further Edit: As deefer dog points out below, EASA Class 2 medicals do expire on the day the anniversary of the medical exam falls, not the end of the month as I wrongly thought. Oops for me; a bigger oops for someone else. |
Still says she's an SEP instructor. Can anyone confirm that it is still valid? And how many instructional flights ha she done? Are they all with a certain 20000hr CPL?
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As I mentioned earlier, if you hold a valid pilot's licence and sit in a pilot's seat, you are generally regarded as a crew member by the relevant aviation authority. |
The accident report tells us quite a bit:
Both logging same flight time (sorry I credited megan, but it was B.Fraser who spotted this), completely counters what TCT stated publicly recently. In the aircraft information section TCT ticks she confirms that the aircraft has two seats, of which BOTH are “Flight Crew Seats.” Again this shows that her claim published most recently in The Times is incorrect. Both TCT and Ewald listed as crew. As noted by twothree TCT’s last medical was on 5th May 2015. I was not able to find any record of her having taken an FAA medical, so I assume that she renewed her EASA one. As she is over 50 any medical she had must therefore be an expired Class 2, which would only have been good to 4th or 5th May 2016, ie it expired before the accident flight. This is notable because her FAA licence is a “Foreign Based” one, and is only valid if the licence it is based on (her UK issued EASA PPL) is valid. This needs to be checked, but it may be the case that she had no medical and no licence when conducting the accident flight. (Her PPL dropping down to a LAPL is irrelevant – she may only fly an N in the USA if her EASA PPL (not LAPL) is valid). Surely not AGAIN?? |
I think Megan and I were typing at the same time.
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My understanding is that a medical exam for revalidation of an EASA medical certificate can be taken up to 45 days before the expiry date, so potentially if the actual exam was on 5 May 2015 the expiry date of the existing certificate could be anything up 19 June 2015 and the new certificate would then be valid to a date between 5 May 2016 and 19 June 2016.
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Hi Zimbo, yes that's true, and that may well be the case. Maybe I jumped the gun there. I'll look into it though. Thanks
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I agree with Noflymore - I flew as a test pilot on a PPL quite extensively - but was employed as an airworthiness engineer.
I did do a CPL, as much as anything before anybody asked the sort of questions being asked here about TCT, about me. I've certainly been glad of the CPL, which opened other doors, and gave me additional knowledge and skills I've used extensively, but it's not clear that I ever strictly needed it. And, frankly, there's quite enough already to criticise about TCT's integrity, it's not a useful addition. G |
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Originally Posted by deefer dog
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Anyone else notice anything strange?
Document 1, "Pilot/Operator Aircraft Accident Report", page 2, first section "Registered Aircraft Owner" clearly states... Name:_________________________3G Classic Aviation Inc. Fractional Ownership Aircraft:__No Yes, this Boeing Stearman airplane is owned by Tracey Curtis-Taylor, who commissioned the restoration in 2012. . . |
Weejeem
I'm afraid that it's entirely normal for the registered owner of an N-reg aircraft to be a US corporation if the beneficial owner is not a US citizen. My own aircraft is owned using exactly this mechanism. |
Originally Posted by Jonzarno
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Weejeem
I'm afraid that it's entirely normal for the registered owner of an N-reg aircraft to be a US corporation if the beneficial owner is not a US citizen. My own aircraft is owned using exactly this mechanism. But I do take your and airpolice's point - perhaps there is/was no lying, rather just yet another terminological inexactitude. :ugh: |
Although I carry no torch for Miss Curtis-Taylor (and I'm still waiting for an answer to the three questions I posted earlier in this thread!) I don't think this particular case is a conscious attempt to deceive.
As I said earlier, my own aircraft ownership is structured in exactly the same way and anyone would describe it as being mine without mentioning the corporation that is the registered owner. |
Flight instructors may log any flight time as PIC whenever they are providing flight instruction, whether or not they are acting as PIC (FAR 61.51). This mainly applies to FAR Part 91 operations! An instructor may not give flight instruction during a FAR 135 or 121 operation unless he/she is a designated flight instructor as stated in the carrier's approved operations manual. Wasn't there an FAA rule saying an ATP could log any flight time in an aircraft they were qualified in at one point, even if not the handling pilot? Maybe that was a possibility? https://www.aopa.org/training-and-sa...mmand-pic-time |
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