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Originally Posted by Jonzarno
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FP
There are many posting here who think that Ms Curtis-Taylor should decline or return the awards she has received given that they appear to have resulted from the mistaken belief that her flights were solo when in fact they were not; and more of us who object strongly to her wearing RAF wings that, by her own admission, she never earned. So can I ask what you think should be the outcome of this situation, and how do you think that that outcome can best be assured? Anything else is really a hollow victory, and besides too much pointing out could reflect more badly upon the accuser than the accused don't you think? FP. |
FP,
I have frequently harbored the same doubts as you. Then I've read what this "decent person" has threatened. I've listened to what this "decent person" has bragged about (from her own mouth, on camera). I've waited patiently, and in vain, for this "decent person" to reveal the factual answers to some very simple questions and, most recently, I've read about how it is all everybody's fault apart from hers. And I'll tell you what...before I knew a single solitary thing about her, I found the epithet "Bird in a Biplane" somewhat nauseating and once I'd seen a photo the thought..."self-deluded narcissist" sprang to mind. So I'm afraid I'm struggling for the sympathy and empathy you require...and I assure I am more than averagely endowed with both those qualities, indeed throughout my career, the latter was commentated on many times. I expect a great many professional and ex-professional aviators feel exactly the same and will continue to do so. Finally, I hold myself to my own standards and if something like this had unwittingly dragged me in, I would have put a stop to it in the proper way as soon as it became apparent it was snowballing. As would most on here. It's how we live our lives. |
Originally Posted by First_Principal
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Jonzarno, I don't think you can assure such an outcome, rather you can point something out and hope that a person has sufficient integrity to take heed and do the right thing.
Anything else is really a hollow victory, and besides too much pointing out could reflect more badly upon the accuser than the accused don't you think? FP. Please substitute the word "assured" with the word "achieved" in the question I asked. To answer your latest point: provided that the "pointing out" is done in a reasoned and balanced way, I don't see that reflecting badly on the person doing the pointing out. I do agree that some of the posts in this thread have been immoderate to say the least, and have not helped make the case because of that. That said, they clearly do reflect the strength of feeling that Ms Curtis-Taylor and her team have created as a result of their actions both in the way these flights were conducted and, just as importantly, in how the subsequent publicity has been handled. As stated a few posts ago, the TCT PR team's strategy now seems to be a combination of managing her WIKI entry and her Facebook page whilst waiting for the storm to die down. Judging by the continuing reaction here, that may take a while yet. |
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"From the outset we in the Air League knew it was not a solo flight and that point was clearly made when we made our award in May this year." Quote: "I have no direct knowledge of the HCAP award but understand it is for similar reasons, and with the same knowledge. So, it would seemingly appear that the misrepresentation and deception was indeed an 'in-house' group effort. Strangely, the public at large and the LAA DID NOT know about any one of these flights being dual. ie with another licensed pilot aboard. One thing that still doesn't make much sense. Why is it if everyone should have known about TCT only flying for 10% of the time 'solo' 'alone' did she then go on to accuse Sam Rutherford and others in tabloid newspapers of attempting to discredit her? After all, surely, his story would have only been consistent with her own/Air League and HCAP. I think some people need to go back and get the story straight, then come back, we'll still be here. |
I'm not all at suprised by the statements that T C-T is good company or pleasant to be with (when it suits her) ...she'd be carp at getting support etc if she wasn't, goes with the territory etc,.
Ms TC-T could issue an apology for causing offence regarding the use of a non-entitled flying badge and desist from wearing them again. That would be enough for me. I'd suggest she issues a full and frank statement over why she feels entitled to wear them or she stops wearing them. |
Should one ever feel the need for an emetic, search for Kate Tojeiro and find her interview with one of the most self-centred and least modest aviators in the world. If you can suppress your gag reflex you will be rewarded at 2:29. In relation to her recently completed flight from Cape Town to Goodwood she says: "I do use modern technology in this. I have a Garmin 430. So I'm using modern navigaton in it, and that made my life a lot easier. So in that respect, I had it a lot easier than Mary Heath. But that's my only concession." Still hanging onto your breakfast? Listen on. At 13:40, Kate asks the question "What is it about flying on your own?". You now hold your breath, waiting for the correction... "Do you know, the sheer euphoria..." There is no correction, just more of the same old "me" and "I".
Now if you didn't know any better, you would assume this brilliant aviatrix had just done battle with every bit of weather, bad luck, controlled airspace, overly bureaucratic government department and hostile terrain etc. between South Africa and the U.K. Which is where this whole thing started. So 14 days after the first trip, a released interview and no correction. PM |
What's really disturbing is that this Walt-ess woman has spawned enough vitriol to run to 129 pages in a thread! Sir Phillip Green stole half a billion pounds from hard working shop workers and only rated 3 pages. Go figure eh? Is Tracey actually stealing/ embezelling/ defrauding anyone?
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Originally Posted by wiggy
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I'm not all at suprised by the statements that T C-T is good company or pleasant to be with (when it suits her) ...she'd be carp at getting support etc if she wasn't, goes with the territory etc,.
By her own admission she has made several comments about how decades ago in common with other women she wasn't allowed to do a course that would lead to the award of the brevet... so she's either snuck off and done a "wings" course in secret somewhere (being supposedly taught to fly warbirds by ex mil QFIs doesn't count but I know most people here know that) or she's being a Walt. I'd suggest she issues a full and frank statement over why she feels entitled to wear them or she stops wearing them. Whatever emotional connection she feels she has with these wing, she should NOT be wearing them. Keeping them in her pocket or Velcro them to the instrument panel, but do not wear them. Also on the same link, this quote from her is hoghly amusing cosidering the claims by her and the problems on Wiki about her occupation of Pilot. “I’VE NEVER BEEN A PROFESSIONAL FLYER. I’M JUST AN ENTHUSIASTIC AVIATOR” We'll have to wait and see if the completion of the US trip in 2017 actually goes ahead as stated on the Bird-&-A-Bloke website. |
"What's really disturbing is that this Walt-ess woman has spawned enough vitriol to run to 129 pages in a thread! Sir Phillip Green stole half a billion pounds from hard working shop workers and only rated 3 pages".
I think that is because we can see that that specific situation is in hand and being adequately dealt with. Perhaps 10,000 pages worldwide. On the other hand, here, the TCT debacle, we're just getting the two fingered salute and told that the show goes on. See the difference now? |
What's really disturbing is that this Walt-ess woman has spawned enough vitriol to run to 129 pages in a thread! Sir Phillip Green stole half a billion pounds from hard working shop workers and only rated 3 pages. Go figure eh? Is Tracey actually stealing/ embezelling/ defrauding anyone? |
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Many thanks for that info and link re the "Wings"..... Whatever emotional connection she feels she has with these wing, she should NOT be wearing them. |
CG - I know what you mean and in abstract terms you are totally correct. What a waste of time. But the reason this thread continues to have a life is because we care. We care about the truth, we care about aviation and we care about the people in aviation. TC-T is using aviation to further her own agenda. She has allowed miss-information, weasley words and gross exaggeration to "big up" what is basically a fly-on-the-wall TV programme. But in the process, she has not done flying any favours. Man has spent years trying to make flying safer. And this stupid woman brags about flying at 50 feet (aka scud running), ignoring local rules and procedures, flying through flocks of birds and otherwise endangering herself and in certain instances, those on the ground. This is not how anybody should fly. Then this braggard had the gall to let us and the world believe it was solo - until of course...
If Philip Green was involved with flying and did something similar, we would be on his case as well. But this is a flying forum and not a pensions or corporate legal forum. If such things existed I would hope that there would be an even greater interest shown. There are tens of thousands and people worrying about what they will do for a pension and asking how he got a knighthood. But the similarity is that both of these people have not been totally open and transparent with their past activities. Yet at the same time they have led us to believe they were better than they actually were, picking up awards in the process. We can't put the world right, but we can look after our own little bit. The bit that puts our dinners on the table, the bit that provides pleasure to many and the bit that portrays aviation to the rest of the UK and the world. PM |
"What's really disturbing is that this Walt-ess woman has spawned enough vitriol to run to 129 pages in a thread! Sir Phillip Green stole half a billion pounds from hard working shop workers and only rated 3 pages". I think that is because we can see that that specific situation is in hand and being adequately dealt with. Perhaps 10,000 pages worldwide. On the other hand, here, the TCT debacle, we're just getting the two fingered salute and told that the show goes on. See the difference now? CG Piltdown Man: Point taken. |
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The manipulation of, or the manipulation by, the press can be traced back a long time.
Here is a good example of how an impression can be formed just by where an interview is filmed. To the uninitiated it may be taken that TCT owns a spitfire and flies a Provost. The back-drop may have been coincidental, it may have been deliberate. Why not conduct the full interview in front of her own aircraft? - It was there and gets a mention and very short screen presence later. 2:55 onwards. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J8XZYJIZ4U |
TCT has been supported silently by her co-pilot from the start. Doesn't say much for him or for her flying, that she fails to ensure her taxi path is clear before getting in the plane and crunching a helicopter. And only the sturdy build and slow speed of the biplane saved them BOTH in the desert crunch....
Furthermore, she boasts about dangerous low flying. Over palaces, whales, wild animals. Hardly the right message for ANY budding pilots. I've stepped down now from solo flying. After 1,800 hours in gliders, and 1,200 in power, mostly towing up gliders or flying to visit grandkids in the US. And a lot of flying gliders in competition, in single seat gliders. As an instructor, I flew with a lot of beginners; men are usually overconfident. Women are usually underconfident, and don't have a lot of money. But they make better pilots in my opinion. Less likely to take chances, and more careful with the craft. No shame in turning back, or saying no if things don't look good. TCT is not really running her show, I wonder who has the veto power? |
In reply to your post Above The Clouds the person best qualified to comment is Barry Tempest.
Is a Member of the Royal Aeronautical Society and the Historic Aircraft Association along with the British Aerobatic Association. Has over 13,000 hours of flying experience in some 350 types and variants of light aircraft including over 8,000 hours instructing. Started display flying in 1958 and has over 2,300 public airshow performances in the UK and many other countries including France, Germany and the USA. Was a founder member of the Barnstormers Flying Circus in 1963 and, in 1971, flew with the famed Rothmans Aerobatic Team in Stampe biplanes. Has won numerous aerobatic competitions and display awards in the UK. His career in aviation included the role of Chief Flying Instructor at a number of UK Flying Schools, training commercial pilots and flying instructors, air taxi work throughout Europe plus ferrying aircraft to the Middle East. From 1984 to 1997, as a Flight Standards Officer in the UK Civil Aviation Authority, his responsibilities included the regulation and oversight of all civil Air Displays in the UK. Was a Flying Instructor Examiner for some 28 years and is a CAA appointed Display Authorisation Evaluator covering a wide range of aircraft. |
I don't know about the rules elsewhere, but it's perfectly legal to fly VFR above clouds in OZ. There are navigational requirements you need to meet though - visual fix at least every 30 minutes if memory is correct, and assurance of course that you can descend VMC to your destination.
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... and there's definitely a helmeted figure in the fron seat who probably is qualified
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Looking around in passing , it seems that the good lady's Website is "still in the water" post the self-pediatric blasting 25th October reference to the Times 24th October piece ( which originally includes 10 readers' comments :) )
Her several Facebook sites seem to have been systematically carpet bombed by various upset writers giving references to verbal and pictorial howlers that dissolve any remaining pretence she may imagine of any professional and moral credibility. Her Wicki page erodes away daily, providing a comprehensive " talk" section which tracks her ongoing descent into greater ridicule. A diminishing number of breathless and hyperbolic outbursts on her various sites flap like landed fish, in turgid language very similar to that which her publicists invoke : "epic" "outstanding" " amazing" " flying high" "pioneering' " wonderful" "achievements" " "inspiring" " successful" " accomplished" " feats" " aviation skills" " endurance" " classic" etc.etc. ad nauseam . All in all I sense that the PR drum has been beaten into insensitivity and now the last resort will be of "heads below the parapet" in the expectation that " all this will blow over". Looking at this site I feel that that will not happen all the time that honest people in the aviation domain feel a sense of anger of being seemingly involved by association in an act of cynical and monetary exploitation of our international heritage. P.S. Just tried to sit through her Australian RAeS address and gave up after " Charles Lindbergh was the first to fly the Atlantic" and" y'know there were more women in Aviation then than there are now" ....... |
I mentioned some weeks ago I had an email from her lawyers threatening legal action regarding my posts on here.
1. I am a barrister at Matrix Chambers specialising in media and information law, including the law of internet-related harassment and data protection. I write to you on behalf of Tracey Curtis-Taylor. 2. As you are aware, Ms Curtis-Taylor is an aviator and adventurer. In 2013 she flew nearly 10,000 miles in a 1942 open cockpit Boeing Stearman, the Spirit of Artemis, from Cape Town to Goodwood. The flight was inspired by and in tribute to Lady Mary Heath, the first person to fly solo from the Cape to the UK in 1928. In late 2015/early 2016 she flew from the UK to Australia, inspired by Amy Johnson’s epic solo flight in 1930. Further information is available on her website at www.birdinabiplane.com. 3. As a result of her flying endeavours, Ms Curtis-Taylor has received the Light Aircraft Association’s Woodhams Trophy in November 2014, the Air League Framed Address in May 2014 and 2016, and is to receive to the Honourable Company of Air Pilots Master’s Medal later this year. 4. The purpose of this letter is: a. to put you on notice of my client’s claims for misuse of private information, harassment and breach of the Data Protection Act 1998 against you arising principally from postings made by you under the pseudonym “Jay Sata” from about April 2016 and continuing to date on the Professional Pilots Rumour Network (“PPRuNe”) at www.pprune.org (although she also understands that you have made similar statements elsewhere, including via email and to the media); and b. to request that you take such steps as are necessary to remove the posts complained of, to desist from harassing my client and to cease processing her personal data with immediate effect. In the event that you do not comply with the requests made in this letter, you will leave my client no option but to consider legal proceedings against you in order to vindicate her rights, including but not limited to seeking interim injunctive relief against you. Matters complained of 5. As noted above, my client’s complaints arise principally from posts made by you under the pseudonym Jay Sata on the PPRuNe forum, specifically at www.pprune.org/privateflying/ I have not heard a word from them but do have some further questions.These are points I will be raising if her lawyers wish to progress their threats. As Tracey and Ewald are complaining of being so misunderstood, perhaps they could clarify and show some scans of the relevant pages of both their logbooks? 1. Was Ewald also logging the time, therefore legally there as an instructor (otherwise he wouldn’t be allowed to log time). Not solo, not even ‘sole’ – but dual. What did Tracey log? 2. If Ewald didn’t log the time at all, this ties in with the official line. What did Tracey then log? Hopefully not solo. 3. Perhaps Tracey logged P1, not solo – and Ewald logged nothing – this would be correct with regards to the story. The Spirit of Artemis saga is now getting very complicated with HCAP describing Ewald as co-pilot and Ewald insisting he wasn’t. Plus the Air League's Terry Holloway revealing his organisation and the Honourable Company Of Air Pilots knew the UK to Sydney flights were just a reality tv show in the making and not a true solo emulation of Amy Johnson's epic flight. On top of that we have yet to see evidence of any substance to her 'Outreach' programne. |
The FAA Accident (sorry, incident) Report shows that Ewald had recorded nearly the same amount of hours as TCT. It would be understandable to assume that he had similarly done so on previous trips.
Perhaps her lawyers should be shown the document along with a photo of the aircraft sitting in the dust which had not been involved in an accident. |
Getting back on topic the Air League and HCAP have given her awards on the basis of a few staged pictures.
If I am wrong perhaps Terry Holloway can post some genuine substance to the so called outreach that merited the awards. http://www.pprune.org/9565893-post2526.html |
I mentioned some weeks ago I had an email from her lawyers threatening legal action regarding my posts on here. Quote: 1. I am a barrister at Matrix Chambers specialising in media and information law, including the law of internet-related harassment and data protection. I write to you on behalf of Tracey Curtis-Taylor. 2. As you are aware, Ms Curtis-Taylor is an aviator and adventurer. In 2013 she flew nearly 10,000 miles in a 1942 open cockpit Boeing Stearman, the Spirit of Artemis, from Cape Town to Goodwood. The flight was inspired by and in tribute to Lady Mary Heath, the first person to fly solo from the Cape to the UK in 1928. In late 2015/early 2016 she flew from the UK to Australia, inspired by Amy Johnson’s epic solo flight in 1930. Further information is available on her website at Tracey Curtis Taylor - Aviatrix, Adventurer, Inspirational Speaker. 3. As a result of her flying endeavours, Ms Curtis-Taylor has received the Light Aircraft Association’s Woodhams Trophy in November 2014, the Air League Framed Address in May 2014 and 2016, and is to receive to the Honourable Company of Air Pilots Master’s Medal later this year. 4. The purpose of this letter is: a. to put you on notice of my client’s claims for misuse of private information, harassment and breach of the Data Protection Act 1998 against you arising principally from postings made by you under the pseudonym “Jay Sata” from about April 2016 and continuing to date on the Professional Pilots Rumour Network (“PPRuNe”) at PPRuNe Forums - Professional Pilots Rumour Network (although she also understands that you have made similar statements elsewhere, including via email and to the media); and b. to request that you take such steps as are necessary to remove the posts complained of, to desist from harassing my client and to cease processing her personal data with immediate effect. In the event that you do not comply with the requests made in this letter, you will leave my client no option but to consider legal proceedings against you in order to vindicate her rights, including but not limited to seeking interim injunctive relief against you. Matters complained of 5. As noted above, my client’s complaints arise principally from posts made by you under the pseudonym Jay Sata on the PPRuNe forum, specifically at www.pprune.org/privateflying/ I replied stating I am a retired journalist and asking a couple of questions regarding her claims in the global media. I have not heard a word from them but do have some further questions.These are points I will be raising if her lawyers wish to progress their threats. As Tracey and Ewald are complaining of being so misunderstood, perhaps they could clarify and show some scans of the relevant pages of both their logbooks? 1. Was Ewald also logging the time, therefore legally there as an instructor (otherwise he wouldn’t be allowed to log time). Not solo, not even ‘sole’ – but dual. What did Tracey log? 2. If Ewald didn’t log the time at all, this ties in with the official line. What did Tracey then log? Hopefully not solo. 3. Perhaps Tracey logged P1, not solo – and Ewald logged nothing – this would be correct with regards to the story. The Spirit of Artemis saga is now getting very complicated with HCAP describing Ewald as co-pilot and Ewald insisting he wasn’t. Plus the Air League's Terry Holloway revealing his organisation and the Honourable Company Of Air Pilots knew the UK to Sydney flights were just a reality tv show in the making and not a true solo emulation of Amy Johnson's epic flight. On top of that we have yet to see evidence of any substance to her 'Outreach' programne. If she did decide to take it further, all sorts of nasties would be brought into play, and she would be ill-advised to do so. But then, her entire raison d'etre would fall. So the question is, is she being pushed into doing this to preserve her sponsorship and (now rather tainted) reputation. I feel sure if you need to crowdfund any case, there will be willing supporters, including me. |
Outreach or outrage?
Following on from the Africa trip and the Aviatrix film I expect that there is a similar story for the Oz trip, perhaps entitled Episode 2 - The Farce Awakens. I guess this will be at an editing stage but will be getting seriously re-cut to remove the "Me", "I" "Mine" sections to be replaced with "outreach", "women", and "impoverished children" footage. Do I think there has been any outreach? No, not really. Flying Greek and Saudi Royalty hardly qualifies for that. Will there be footage of adoring children in Pakistan listening intently to a woman spouting about glass ceilings and how they can achieve what they want. Yeh right, if you have gullible rich backers and a knowledge that there is a hotel room waiting for you, paid for by the said backers, whilst they go back to their shanty homes. If there was any outreach to be done then this idea of flying this "bird" around the world should have been kicked into touch on the first leg from Capetown. BOEING and ARTEMIS could have used sponsorship money to fund maybe 10, 100, or 1000 flying scholarships globally. I don't know how much a scholarship costs and I don't have the exact sponsorship figures. BOEING / ARTEMIS So instead of having this one shameless character demeaning the badge she wears (RAF brevet) alongside the advertising of BOEING and ARTEMIS, you could instead have had 10, 100,or maybe 1000 female pilots wearing the BOEING/ARTEMIS patches alongside a real brevet that they have proudly earned. If I was an investor with Artemis I would be asking how did they get this so wrong, and with my money. I would also be asking for the money back. Boeing and Artemis should do just that and THEN create the scholarships I have suggested. That is what outreach should be about - not financing the future of an after-dinner speaker. |
Originally Posted by Haraka
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Looking around in passing , it seems that the good lady's Website is "still in the water" post the self-pediatric blasting 25th October reference to the Times 24th October piece ( which originally includes 10 readers' comments :) )
. . The link to the article is still there, and then let the comments load at the bottom of the article. Tracey Curtis Taylor - Aviatrix, Adventurer, Inspirational Speaker Bird in a Biplane swoops on claims she didn?t fly solo | News | The Times & The Sunday Times |
Where and when were the "Sole Pilot not Solo"claims that I remember made? They seem to have disappeared......
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And the next fib from the Bird in a Self-Delusion
From her website...link is in rugmuncher's post above Recent articles about my flights have suggested or implied that I have misrepresented or have sought to mislead people into believing that I undertook my flights alone and without support. Sought to mislead? You? No! Never! |
I cannot wait for Nov 18th. I expect a fair bit of feedback from the BRNC Taranto Night Dinner. Might make for very entertaining reading :ok:
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Originally Posted by SATCOS WHIPPING BOY
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I cannot wait for Nov 18th. I expect a fair bit of feedback from the BRNC Taranto Night Dinner. Might make for very entertaining reading :ok:
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Friday 25th November 2016
The BTM annual black tie/ white overall dinner is traditionally held in the presence of our President Sir Stirling Moss and Lady Moss. We are pleased to announce that the after dinner speaker this year will be the aviatrix - Tracey Curtis-Taylor. No doubt she will be telling us about her latest adventures including her mishap in America which necessitated her Boeing Stearman being rebuilt. |
Thanks Sam,
People have asked here why the rigorous pursuit of TCT.... This is why! It appears that she just will not step back from the spotlight. It's one thing to have made a mistake(s)(ssssss), but from some point along this sorry tale, it's no longer a mistake, it's a decision to continue to misrepresent. If TCT uses that opportunity to announce her retraction of so many lies, and surrender of awards issued based upon misrepresentation, I may owe her a small apology. Let's see..... |
The difference (to use my example) is that one is actually important to the lives of ordinary people Just because you don't view it as important to you doesn't mean that no-one else should. Doubtless you wouldn't have thought that Lance Armstrong's cheating was important either. FBW |
Interesting letter Jay and I presume it’s the text of that which you reported as having received some time ago. If I am correct the author is a junior barrister at Matrix Chambers. Anyway her choice of words is rather illuminating;
You will leave my client no option but to consider legal proceedings against you in order to vindicate her rights, including but not limited to seeking interim injunctive relief against you. My question to Tracey is this; why, as someone who is facing what appears to be very well documented statements of facts that counter your claimed achievements do you only respond with legal threats? Have you not considered the other option of telling the truth? It is my opinion Tracey, and I’m quite happy to let your lawyer opine whether she is happy for me to air it, is that you have painted yourself into a corner with a series of exaggerated claims, misleading statements, misrepresentations and, by being extremely uneconomical with the truth, you have subsequently attempted to deflect the criticism that now clouds every hope you ever had of deserving the title of “aviatrix.” That title, little bird, is something that history will NEVER bestow upon you for the flights you have carried out with Ewald Gritsch. To misquote Clint Eastwood “If you’re really feelin’ lucky “bird,” add mine to the list if you have the guts, nerve or front to fight it out in court." Clive Watson |
Fly by wife, Well said! Where I keep our personal and corporate aircraft there are many kids working their buts of to build flying time, they do not cheat or lie, there are without exception totally fed up with the falsehoods spouted by this woman {they are well aware of the situation by the way}, I always fly a two pilot operation on our twin, giving both dual and PIC where legal to these kids, It gives my wife and I great pleasure when they move on to the "big league", maybe the sponsors behind this work of fiction should try doing this next time they get the urge to sponsor something in aviation. As for the moronic senior officers and royalty not speaking up, it just serves to illustrate why Canada will be better of in the view of many as a republic, {However, Trump has made a few think again!}
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Originally Posted by Sam Rutherford
Friday 25th November 2016
The BTM annual black tie/ white overall dinner is traditionally held in the presence of our President Sir Stirling Moss and Lady Moss. We are pleased to announce that the after dinner speaker this year will be the aviatrix - Tracey Curtis-Taylor. No doubt she will be telling us about her latest adventures including her mishap in America which necessitated her Boeing Stearman being rebuilt. Has anyone educated BTM as to the truth behind her stories? |
+1. Well said that man!! Tracy over to you and your solicitor.
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Asked before, and I'll ask again, does anyone know of 1 (one, eins, uno) underprivileged boy or girl that has benefited in any way from TCT's outreach during her 2013 & 2015 expeditions ? And when I say benefited, I mean in a tangeable way with a PPL or a scholarship for instance and not just the recipient of a bull**** talk glibly delivered between swanning in and out of the salons and villas of the great and good along her route of flight. Go on Tracey or Ewald or even Mr Kelly give us a name, just one and the help given, and I'll shut up and let you get back to your business.
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The 500' rule may not necessarily apply to every country, VFR above clouds is certainly possible in many. So we must not apply UK rules to other parts of the world. About the only standard thing is that is that you are not allowed to fly in Prohibited Airspace. All of these restrictions are promulgated within each country's equivalent of the UK's ANO and Air Pilot. Whilst most pilots don't know these publications word for word, they generally comply with the spirit of the legislation. But none of these rules apply to our intrepid, dashing aviatrix. She flies at any height, in any visibility, through any flocks of birds and through any piece of airspace that she wishes - and sod the lot of them. She thinks it amusing to be confronted "by big black men" (who else would you'd expect to be running ATC in Africa?) and to be let off with a three hour bollocking for flying in prohibited airspace. Her arrogance is breathtaking. Tracey, try flying in Prohibited Airspace in Britain and see what happens.
And when we look at this inspirational and outreach bollocks, what is clear is that she shows a (Maurice) Kirk like attitude to flight planning. You would have thought that a person who intends to be a role model to others would be beyond reproach. A small example. Entebbe has a small area of Prohibited Airspace close by the main airport. It is well marked and extends from GND to UNL. This was a planned destination on her African jolly. It's the ONLY bit you may not fly in. You would have though that this would have been picked up in her pre-flight prep. But no, she either doesn't plan or more likely, as suggested above, she believes that rules don't apply to important people like her, ones with royal connections. This is unacceptable as was her flight over the Falls. She wanted to fly low, so she did. Sod the rules. Crass Arrogance. I'm looking forward to being in the same room as her one day, in public and asking questions. PM |
I have ploughed through this thread, and it has been hard work. So, just for the benefit of others who are newcomers here, a tiny example of the many contradictions that seem to generate around T C-T.
As others here have noted, the link to the Jetgala magazine interview clearly shows the following: Q: What sparked your interest in aviation? I love the early planes. It’s completely romantic and whimsical but that’s my approach to flying. It became a hobby. I’m not interested in modern procedural flying. I’ve never been a professional flyer. I’m just an enthusiastic aviator. Tracey Curtis-Taylor (born 1962) is a British aviator who has worked as a commercial pilot and flying instructor in New Zealand. |
Three unanswered questions (Repeat)
I am posting this as I believe that Ms Curtis-Taylor or, at least, some of her team are following this thread.
There have been many posts recently that have concentrated on criticising Ms Curtis-Taylor in relatively general terms and it is quite easy for her to ignore them. Several pages ago, however, I posted three specific questions for her to which I never received an answer. I apologise for repeating them here and recognise that doing so may prove to be a triumph of hope over experience but here goes anyway! I would be interested in a reasoned response from the lady herself to the following: 1. What is the reconciliation between Ms Curtis-Taylor's well documented claim to have flown her african flight "solo". Please see the video clip published earlier in this thread: http://www.pprune.org/private-flying...ml#post9559074 in which she personally makes that claim, and her subsequent public statement that the flight was not solo? 2. Given the above, what was she doing in the picture of her, published several times earlier in this thread, standing in front of a huge picture depicting the route and claiming she had been "Alone in an open cock-pit [sic] plane"? 3. By what authority, and with what qualification, does she wear RAF wings? If Ms Curtis-Taylor can provide sensible and satisfactory answers: I am sure that most if not all of her critics would be silenced. Certainly I am prepared to be convinced. I (still!) look forward to hearing..... |
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