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Old 5th Feb 2011, 22:03
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FlyMap Planning Software

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Having recently purchased the FlyMap F7 I was wondering whether there are any others out there that have purchased the flight planning software alongside.

Essentially with very minimal reviews or feedback seemingly available online,I would be interested to hear of anyones experiences with FlyMap win software. Does it add much value to the overall package, and would you consider it worth the price (£165+VAT).

Also if anyone has any feedback on the Pooleys geo-referenced airfields or FlyMap weather and/or NOTAM services I would be interested to know.

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I've been using a FlyMap L for 2.5 years with 1/4 and 1/2 mill UK maps, plus Jeppeson for Europe and it's great! The ability to touch an airfield and bring up the pooleys info was an additional extra, but well worth it. I don't use NOTAMS or weather, preferring to use alternative (and more reliable) sources. My product came with FlyMap Win software and to be honest, i can't imagine using the unit without this software. All your flight planning can be done in the comfort of your own living room and all flight docs can be printed off before getting in the aircraft. You can calculate endurance/fuel stops, as well profile the route.

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I agree with toptobottom entirely, with danger of repeating.... The Flymap software was sent with the F7 unit, and has proven extremely beneficial. Don't get me wrong, you can produce the same result by using the unit alone (i.e. flight planning and leg times etc.) however the extras such as NOTAMS and wx require the program to be uploaded to the unit.

Seeing altitude constraints and any possible airspace infringments, graphically, is super. As well as the computer generated documents and even flightplan form. The charts for the airfields are good when loaded onto the Flymap unit, however I haven't bought the geo-referenced ones yet as I usually stick to the smaller field strips anyway.

Not only useful for planning, but the Flymap software always seems more convinient to load up instead of unfolding a gargantuan piece of paper!

Only downside to the whole flymap operation is that one can very easily become reliable on tech to navigate. I constantly tell myself there is no subsitute to pen, paper and a wheel!

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And don't forget that all this stuff comes with a message coming down to "unofficial data, not to be used for navigation - to be confirmed/verified from official sources". The more expensive, the smaller the print.
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Thanks for your help so far guys. Unfortunately the flymap flight planning software is not actually included with the unit I dont know if it perhaps was some time ago. (at least not with the F7)

Having now looked at the airbox website I was a liitle dissapointed with the flymap system in some respects. Whilst they appaer to be almost identical in operation the add-ons are comparably better priced on the airbox systems with an option to purchase for £150 a yearly chart update service, also airbox Fastplan is included with all of the units except the cheaper Airbox Aware. To add insult to injury the airbox planning software (if not included) retails for about £50 as opposed to the £200 for flymap win.

Having said that the unit itself is good, I just think that any £1000+ unit should be well featured and supported to reflect the costs. Manufacturers IMHO should be encouraging pilots to update charts when revisions come out, but this is not the case where such are cost prohibitive. We'll just have to wait and see how the aftersales turns out, until I decide fully whether I made the right call in the Airbox Foresight vs Flymap F7 debacle.
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It's not surprising the Airbox software is similar to the FlyMap's; it was developed and now marketed by the same people who imported the FlyMap! If it's any consolation, I paid £4,000 for my FlyMap L . When they were new and had no competition, the prices were very high, although that did include all maps for UK and Europe, plus the pooley's option.
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Thanks for your input TTB. Im glad to hear for £4k your software and charts were included!! The Flymap L does look like a fantastic unit though
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I really wanted to buy an LD but simply couldn't justify the cost against the services offered.
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Manufacturers IMHO should be encouraging pilots to update charts when revisions come out, but this is not the case where such are cost prohibitive.
SkyDemon might be worth a look. Vector charts with free AIRAC updates.
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I should have probably mentioned, Brad Goodfellow (the director of the company who imports and retails the Flymap gadgetry) is very easy to get hold of and is extremely supportive.

So in terms of after sales support, it's as good as it gets!
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Thanks guys
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Further to my post above, I would invite that anyone considering whether they should go for an Airbox or a Flymap contact me before doing so. I will not open this discussion on the open forum to remain professional and to just generally to avoid this thread decending into an open bashing of either company. Only FACTUAL information will be discussed and then you will be in a much clearer position as to which unit represents the soundest investment for your future recreational or professional flying.

I am in no way affiliated with Flymap or Airbox Aerospace in any way whatsoever and have simply have had dealings with both companies and done some "research"


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Keeping the tone of this thread positive I can say with confidence that I fully support and recommend Airbox Aerospace and their products.

Not only are the products developed by pilots, but the management team are very approachable and will deal with your queries both promptly and effectively. They also have an active research and development team who welcome feedback and input from their customers, so in essence the products are always being improved upon as well.

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A bit off topic from my original thread but as i found it extremely difficult to find, I have posted a link here to a review conducted of the Airbox Foresight by Dan Tye which featured in Pilot magazine July2009.

We now have another contender in

Although do bear in mind that this review was written some time ago and certain elements of the product are likely to have been improved by now. I do know that the Pooleys geo-referenced approach plates are now a standard feature.
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