Indifferent partner
just as I expected good comments. Appears the lucky fellow does read here and made the right connections, got his per mail
yea, sometimes it is better to have people one thinks one knows out for a test drive so to speak, to prevent ugly surprises later.
But regarding the original topic, it is sometimes perverse to see what rep our kind of aviation has achieved over the years.... I had my own sense of responsibility questioned repeatedly by folks who later turned out to do things I do consider a sight more dangerous then my flying... It is a bit absurd to have the dangers of private aviation pointed out to me by people like motorbike addicts (that one drove a Harley which regularly wakes the whole quarter up when she's out for early shift), a repeat Himalaya climber, several divers and least of all one gal who used to work in foreign aid projects in places like Afghanistan during the Taliban rule....
What was that line again? Nothing is so difficult to kill than a prejudice.
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Northants
Age: 80
Posts: 227
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Some years ago, my wife was very aware of my longing for a ppl. She bought me the first 6 lessons for Xmas. However, one day, having achieved my license, I went into the lounge to find her quietly crying. She was petrified of what the kids and rest of family would say if I managed to kill myself, feeling she would be blamed for kickstarting the proceedure!!
A few years on, she accepts that it is unlikely that I will come to any harm, but still worries, and insists on a phone call the moment I land! Being claustrophobic, she will not fly in a small aircraft (she suffers, even in a 737) so I cannot take her with me to help put her mind at rest (or otherwise!!).
A few years on, she accepts that it is unlikely that I will come to any harm, but still worries, and insists on a phone call the moment I land! Being claustrophobic, she will not fly in a small aircraft (she suffers, even in a 737) so I cannot take her with me to help put her mind at rest (or otherwise!!).
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: EuroGA.org
Posts: 13,787
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Being claustrophobic, she will not fly in a small aircraft (she suffers, even in a 737) so I cannot take her with me to help put her mind at rest (or otherwise!!).
If you meet a girl, and the relationship progresses, in general (I would think, in these modern times) you will go on a holiday abroad with her before marrying her or before making any major commitment like buying a house together.
So, off you do to the airport, and she has a major problem getting into a 737.
So the holiday is probably off, but more to the point you realise that holidays in general are going to be a problem.
I would suggest that if the boot was on the other foot i.e. it was the bloke who would not get into a 737, most women (being on a very sharp lookout for the strange tendencies which men are supposedly susceptible to, like train/plane spotting) would leg it at that point. Unless you had the looks and charm of G Clooney, you wouldn't see her for dust.
Yet most blokes (under about 40) would not see this as a problem. They think they can "help her", but of course this isn't so easy.
I once went out with a girl (she was about 30) who was almost sick at the mere thought of getting into a plane. I thought (probably correctly) that this would be a huge can of worms, but I don't think she had any problem finding boyfriends...
I see loads of blokes giving up flying (and probably other relatively time-consuming hobbies which I wouldn't know about) under pressure from disinterested women, and I have to ask myself what led them to shack up with her in the first place.
Less nutters up there!
I met my other half at a gliding rally. Thirty years on, we are still flying together and separately, with a cub and two gliders between us. It hasn't always been an easy relationship, and I think sometimes it's the flying that has kept us together. Don't underestimate the force of a shared pleasure! On the other hand, he doesn't like knitting and I don't like woodworking. So we do have time apart from each other.
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Abroad
Posts: 1,172
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
If you are referring to a 15 y.o. posting and reading here, of which I am perfectly aware, that is fine. If you come from a prudish background you are perfectly welcome to use whichever euphemisms and circumlocutions you do find appropriate.
In the meanwhile, there are other cultures and schools of opinion which favour clarity of expression and have altogether different perceptions of what is obscene and what is not, and how to treat each case. As you may guess, I belong to this latter group.
In the meanwhile, there are other cultures and schools of opinion which favour clarity of expression and have altogether different perceptions of what is obscene and what is not, and how to treat each case. As you may guess, I belong to this latter group.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Ireland
Posts: 100
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
"She marched off on her high heels with surprising speed and vanished, probably never to be seen again. "
...........nothing like a lucky escape. I've seen a few of my mates suffer really badly in the hands of "high maintenance".
...........nothing like a lucky escape. I've seen a few of my mates suffer really badly in the hands of "high maintenance".
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 2,118
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I would suggest that if the boot was on the other foot i.e. it was the bloke who would not get into a 737, most women (being on a very sharp lookout for the strange tendencies which men are supposedly susceptible to, like train/plane spotting) would leg it at that point. Unless you had the looks and charm of G Clooney, you wouldn't see her for dust.
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: uk
Posts: 139
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
My whole flying training and career aspirations have been totally ruined by neurotic females. I think it is initially due to having so much fun and interest without them. Then as you het closer to ATPL jealousy kicks in as they imagine you with your gold braid trapped in a metal tube with the hosties. Trust me, many females cannot bear the thought of you on an overnight with a bunch of flying mattresses.
I now play a lot of golf basically every minute I have free, and the partners get pissed off with that as well ie having fun with the boys. They usually say "I thought we could do something together this weekend" I say "like what", they say "we could go shopping at TESCO". FFS do you really think I would give up a round of golf to go to the shops!!!!
Back to the jealousy bit, think of an aircraft as your ideal mistress. You have to tie them down EVERY night, they don't get jealous if you look at other aircraft, they don't get jealous when you look at aircraft magazines and the whining stops when you turn the engines off!!!!!
I now play a lot of golf basically every minute I have free, and the partners get pissed off with that as well ie having fun with the boys. They usually say "I thought we could do something together this weekend" I say "like what", they say "we could go shopping at TESCO". FFS do you really think I would give up a round of golf to go to the shops!!!!
Back to the jealousy bit, think of an aircraft as your ideal mistress. You have to tie them down EVERY night, they don't get jealous if you look at other aircraft, they don't get jealous when you look at aircraft magazines and the whining stops when you turn the engines off!!!!!
I see loads of blokes giving up flying (and probably other relatively time-consuming hobbies which I wouldn't know about) under pressure from disinterested women, and I have to ask myself what led them to shack up with her in the first place.
Would friends do the things we mention here to each other? I guess not, otherwise, with such friends who needs enemies.
Now, I think you do know the answer to that ... it comes down to which "F" the man is more interested in
Especcially after bad experiences before, a lot of males will put on the pink filter over their Ray Bans before realizing that there is no free lunch, especcially in that regard. By the time brains take over from the nether regions, your finger might well set of the metal detector. I do reckon that lots of relationships which break do so out of the initial misconception that compatibility in bed means compatibility elsewhere plus the even worse idea that the partner, of course always the other, will "change" to accomodate what one looks for outside the sack. Wrong.
Sometimes it does help to bring it down to this basic question. If you see that your partner treats his/her friends with more coutesy and manner than yourself, it is sometimes sobering but effective to bring up the question of friendship in a relationship. The distinct lack of which might well be a reason to pull the plug even if things are still good to brilliant in other aspects. It is crude but true that skilled lovers are easier to find than true friends.
Back to the jealousy bit, think of an aircraft as your ideal mistress.
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: EuroGA.org
Posts: 13,787
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
they imagine you with your gold braid trapped in a metal tube with the hosties
Have you read Air Babylon?
It's all true
we could go shopping at TESCO
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Oxford, UK
Posts: 1,546
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
It cuts both ways. First husband was afraid of flying! I rather enjoyed it, as a passenger, first as a kid over Tampa Bay, paid for it by dishwashing! still remember the marvelous turquoise clear waters, seeing manatees from above looking like slugs cuddling up together near the shores....
Then later, after we had four children, our first holiday he was so nervous he insisted we fly in separate planes -not a bad idea in those days.
We did fly together once, in Mexico in a Dakota flown by a Native American, walking down a center aisle that sloped; then well banked turns on the approach to Casas Grandes, husband slumped in his seat with his eyes shut fast and muttering prayers..
But it wasn't until he dumped me for a younger model that I decided to do something reckless; had my ears pierced and went for a ride in a glider at High Wycombe. Recognised at once this is what I really wanted.
After ten years of flying, and realising that most pilots preferred a serious relationship to their gliders rather than the opposite sex, I put an ad in the Times, and found dear Henry, who had been in the British Army, and I taught him to fly! We had many happy years together.
Then later, after we had four children, our first holiday he was so nervous he insisted we fly in separate planes -not a bad idea in those days.
We did fly together once, in Mexico in a Dakota flown by a Native American, walking down a center aisle that sloped; then well banked turns on the approach to Casas Grandes, husband slumped in his seat with his eyes shut fast and muttering prayers..
But it wasn't until he dumped me for a younger model that I decided to do something reckless; had my ears pierced and went for a ride in a glider at High Wycombe. Recognised at once this is what I really wanted.
After ten years of flying, and realising that most pilots preferred a serious relationship to their gliders rather than the opposite sex, I put an ad in the Times, and found dear Henry, who had been in the British Army, and I taught him to fly! We had many happy years together.
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: EuroGA.org
Posts: 13,787
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I put an ad in the Times
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Ireland
Posts: 100
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
@IO540 "Actually I really enjoy going shopping at TESCO with my GF. We treat it as a social research project..."
That comment brought a smile to my face. I love "people watching" at shopping centres, cheap entertainment.
Apologies for off topic.
That comment brought a smile to my face. I love "people watching" at shopping centres, cheap entertainment.
Apologies for off topic.
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Wisbech
Age: 44
Posts: 74
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I think part of the problem is that flying is not just another hobby. For me it’s more of an obsession and I really can’t imagine spending the rest of my life with a man who doesn’t have at least some interest.
I only got my license this year. I'm looking for someone to share the experience (and hopefully the flying itself) with, who will enjoy fly-ins at weekends in the summer, and maybe flying up to Scotland or to over to France for a few day's holiday.
I’m not interested in tagging along to some ground based hobby at weekends. If it was evenings, then fine but there are few enough beautiful flying days at the weekends as it is to risk loosing even one of then. If I’m not flying myself then I’d still much rather be at the airfield than anywhere else on a nice day. Airfields are magical places and worthy destinations in their own right in my opinion.
I could choose someone who goes off and does his own thing every weekend, I don’t had any problem with that but I can’t see there ever being any real sparkle in such a relationship.
-Katie
I only got my license this year. I'm looking for someone to share the experience (and hopefully the flying itself) with, who will enjoy fly-ins at weekends in the summer, and maybe flying up to Scotland or to over to France for a few day's holiday.
I’m not interested in tagging along to some ground based hobby at weekends. If it was evenings, then fine but there are few enough beautiful flying days at the weekends as it is to risk loosing even one of then. If I’m not flying myself then I’d still much rather be at the airfield than anywhere else on a nice day. Airfields are magical places and worthy destinations in their own right in my opinion.
I could choose someone who goes off and does his own thing every weekend, I don’t had any problem with that but I can’t see there ever being any real sparkle in such a relationship.
-Katie
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: EuroGA.org
Posts: 13,787
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Doing your own thing every weekend (i.e. Sat and Sun) is going to finish any relationship eventually.
That is the problem, as far as I can see, with gliding, or "serious" sailing. Power flying you can just do part-time, and if you have flexibility on weekdays you can do it then.
I think the best relationships are ones where each of you has their own "projects" but you spend time together in the evenings and say on Sunday. In too many relationships one person is "hanging onto" the other.
That is the problem, as far as I can see, with gliding, or "serious" sailing. Power flying you can just do part-time, and if you have flexibility on weekdays you can do it then.
I think the best relationships are ones where each of you has their own "projects" but you spend time together in the evenings and say on Sunday. In too many relationships one person is "hanging onto" the other.
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Cambridge, England, EU
Posts: 3,443
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
I’m not interested in tagging along to some ground based hobby at weekends.