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Flew over today enroute to Coll. Fence is down but the threshold is unchanged as yet. Guess the cooncil runway painting department are off for the long weekend.
Lovely weather on the way out but quite manky around Bute/Arran on the way back. FISBANGWALLOP, Im pretty sure that it was your good self on this morning. Many thanks for great service.
Lovely weather on the way out but quite manky around Bute/Arran on the way back. FISBANGWALLOP, Im pretty sure that it was your good self on this morning. Many thanks for great service.
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Excellent news and common sense prevails!
I think the first thing we should expect to see would be a NOTAM changing the declared distances, as happened when the fence went up.
MFC
I think the first thing we should expect to see would be a NOTAM changing the declared distances, as happened when the fence went up.
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But at the risk of raising yet another LOOOOOONG running saga on this thread, the "declared distances" are irrelevant to most users of Oban, and indeed to the main user of Oban that requires a licensed aerodrome.
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Your questions are very pertinent! I think you will find that they [along with many others] should be addressed to those who advised A & B Council prior to Mr Jackson being appointed. Isn't the saying that 'you cannot make a silk coat out of a sow's ear?' [!!].
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Quite right about declared distances being irrelevant to many of the operators. However it is currently a Licensed Aerodrome [like it or not] and the rules [ICAO & CAA] say that declared distances must be published. I think you will also find that AOC operators under EU Ops are required to take heed of declared distance.
Good news about the fence. Let's hope that with this outbreak of common sense some good business momentum can be regained quickly and an end to the pathetic childish goings on! Oban deserves better.
Your questions are very pertinent! I think you will find that they [along with many others] should be addressed to those who advised A & B Council prior to Mr Jackson being appointed. Isn't the saying that 'you cannot make a silk coat out of a sow's ear?' [!!].
North South
Quite right about declared distances being irrelevant to many of the operators. However it is currently a Licensed Aerodrome [like it or not] and the rules [ICAO & CAA] say that declared distances must be published. I think you will also find that AOC operators under EU Ops are required to take heed of declared distance.
Good news about the fence. Let's hope that with this outbreak of common sense some good business momentum can be regained quickly and an end to the pathetic childish goings on! Oban deserves better.
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Yes, not questioning whether they should be published and whether AOC operators must adhere to them. Only questioning (a) whether they apply to private flights and (b) whether the reduced distances had any impact whatsoever on any AOC operator flying Islanders, which are the only type capable of operating the only scheduled services at Oban.
But removal of the fence is unquestionably good news.
NS
But removal of the fence is unquestionably good news.
NS
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The answer to (a) is interesting. Whilst there is no regulatory requirement appertaining to private flights, most operators should pay due regard to the landing distance and the take-off run! The emergency distance and take-off distance of course being pertinent only to performance group A aircraft.
With regard to (b) the shortened distance was no doubt adequate for the Islander; it would have been inadequate for many other larger aircraft whether public transport or otherwise.
The answer to (a) is interesting. Whilst there is no regulatory requirement appertaining to private flights, most operators should pay due regard to the landing distance and the take-off run! The emergency distance and take-off distance of course being pertinent only to performance group A aircraft.
With regard to (b) the shortened distance was no doubt adequate for the Islander; it would have been inadequate for many other larger aircraft whether public transport or otherwise.
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Good news about the fence. Let's hope that with this outbreak of common sense some good business momentum can be regained quickly
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Or at the very least make the out of hours permit system more accessible. Our 'club' aircraft were recently denied permits as they are registered in the name of a limited company.
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I e mailed Dixie explaining how aircraft ownership works and asked her to pass it on.
We can only hope the outbreak of common sense will spread to this.
D.O.
We can only hope the outbreak of common sense will spread to this.
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Or at the very least make the out of hours permit system more accessible. Our 'club' aircraft were recently denied permits as they are registered in the name of a limited company.
Our aircraft is owned by a limited company too.
Agreed regarding the operating hours.
Business development will, to state the obvious, require cognisance of customer requirements, which will in turn require commercial and business nouse, preferably at the airport. Sadly, council run operations are not best known for such skills.
It will also require all parties to be pulling in the same direction. Let's hope that in these difficult days the greater good will take precedence over any partisan interests.
Run 'properly', there must be huge potential for a thriving operation in such a splendid tourist area.
Business development will, to state the obvious, require cognisance of customer requirements, which will in turn require commercial and business nouse, preferably at the airport. Sadly, council run operations are not best known for such skills.
It will also require all parties to be pulling in the same direction. Let's hope that in these difficult days the greater good will take precedence over any partisan interests.
Run 'properly', there must be huge potential for a thriving operation in such a splendid tourist area.
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Finally !
The council have made a decision.
Only a week or so to go and they've decided who gets to run the show.
Not bad for a public organization.
Only took them about a year.
The council have made a decision.
Only a week or so to go and they've decided who gets to run the show.
Not bad for a public organization.
Only took them about a year.
Better red than ...
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Looks like some interesting parking on the Glenforsa runway at present.... and quickly towed away.
Who needs special branch for the Olympics with a webcam around
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Heavy landing Rans S7...both occupants OK, departed Cumbernauld but Sleap based. Glad all ended ok despite a wee bit of pride and aircraft dented!!!
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Keith Durbidge DFM DFC R.I.P.
Keith Durbidge former CFI at The Highland Aero Club Inverness and all round good chap passed away on Monday last.
Funeral at United Reform Church Nairn 13.30 Sunday May 8th.
Blue skys Keith.
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Funeral at United Reform Church Nairn 13.30 Sunday May 8th.
Distinguished Flying Medal - 16 April 1943
1323273 Sergeant Keith DURBIDGE, No. 683 Squadron.
This airman has completed many missions. He has rendered excellent service, obtaining much valuable information often in the face of opposition both from enemy aircraft and ground defences. He has displayed skill, courage and determination of a high order.
DFC - 4 May 1945
Flight Lieutenant Keith DURBRIDGE*, D.F.M. (143999), R.A.F.V.R., 542 Sqn
*Note the spelling mistake in the DFC
1323273 Sergeant Keith DURBIDGE, No. 683 Squadron.
This airman has completed many missions. He has rendered excellent service, obtaining much valuable information often in the face of opposition both from enemy aircraft and ground defences. He has displayed skill, courage and determination of a high order.
DFC - 4 May 1945
Flight Lieutenant Keith DURBRIDGE*, D.F.M. (143999), R.A.F.V.R., 542 Sqn
*Note the spelling mistake in the DFC
Blue skys Keith.
OGF
Last edited by The Original GF; 5th May 2011 at 11:10. Reason: Added info