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Old 4th Jul 2009, 19:57
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SUPPORT AVIATION

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Your dead right we have to support aviation. The question is are you going to put a private donation into our local council to support our dinner ladies or our care homes or for the thousand potholes we have on our local roads????
As a local tax payer it leaves a bitter taste in your mouth.. Rant over.

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Oban Loony Toons

There is no valid reason why viewers on this site should endorse the actions of any individual or group interfering with “aviation” at this location.
FW51.

Isn't this exactly what you are doing by being a leading apologist for ABC?

Who closed the into wind runway?
Who has stopped flying after 18:00?
Who raised landing fees?
Who has driven GA traffic down by 60%?
Who mislead the CAA in order to get Oban licensed?

Thats right, ABC.

Give it up FW51.

WW
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Old 4th Jul 2009, 20:23
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Once again I have visited this thread to see this totally negative attitude by the same old names towards the airfield, be it knocking the staff, management, or whatever.

If I was in control of the airfield and could identify the trouble makers shall we say, I would ban you all from the field.

It is simple, if you aint happy, leave the field, dont go, take up fishing, oh then maybe don't, you would no doubt cause trouble in that community.

Lovely place to visit and stay.

Rant over.
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Good job you aren't and that you wouldn't have the power to do so even if you were, especially as most of us "malcontents" are exactly the ones who use the field far more than anyone else or are closely associated with it in other ways.

So keeping on a personal vendetta and allowing the bad feeling between the council and it's tenants to continue is good management is it?

This could all be fixed easily. It just needs the large degrees of muppetry to be toned down and a bit of communication.

It ain't rocket science that's for certain.
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If the GAMA KingAirs and the Learjets referred to are not on public transport flights
For the record...they very much are!..I would have thought an instructor would have that basic knowledge!!

However they have little need to use Oban, which , is in my opinion, one of the best GA leisure destinations in the UK.
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If your not happy with the thread dont waste your time on it. There are plenty more threads on PPRUNE to intrest you
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If the GAMA KingAirs and the Learjets referred to are not on public transport flights

For the record...they very much are!
You may not have noticed the "if" at the beginning of the sentence, but thanks for your inside knowledge. I wonder, then, how the Loganair Islanders managed to operate their ambulance flights into unlicensed strips and how numerous business jets etc managed to get in and out of Oban for many years before it even had a licence? Oban's licence was only obtained for the Highland Airways scheduled service. It is not required for any of the other flights that have been going in and out of the place for years.
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Future assured

In any case all these arguments about who is to blame etc etc are all academic because the future of the airport is now assured:

Obanair - Serving Scotland and the Islands

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A quick calculation.....9 million cost @ 5% interest = Ł450,000 A YEAR !


That means OVER Ł8,600 a week has to be found , just to pay for the cost of capital.....add on staff, maintenance, repairs and renewals..


What lunatic is running the assylum that collectively decided this was affordable?

Even if the quoted "hundred" movements a week took place, EVERY WEEK OF THE YEAR..... it would price the landings at Ł150 a pop just to break even-and that's on a very conservativeestimate of running-costs..

If I was a local ratepayer, I too would be incensed.
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Oban Follies

it would price the landings at Ł150 a pop
Please don't give the council any ideas!


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NS, who are they? Is it a school project that's been put on the internet?
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who are they?
A few mins on Google reveals what appears to be a failed internet service provider who now runs a cable company in Rutherglen. No obvious sign of an aviation connection, which of course doesn't mean there isn't one.
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Hmmm, never heard of this chap.

Is it the same person who owns Pryor Cable Services from the same address? If so, what aviation background do they have?

Domain name:
obanair.co.uk

Registrant:
Spencer Pryor

Registrant type:
Non-UK Individual

Registrant's address:
26 Clos St Sampson
St. Brelade
Jersey
JE3 8FR
Jersey

Registrar:
GX Networks Ltd [Tag = S2CONSULTING]
URL: Donhost: web host, business web hosting, servers and resellers

Relevant dates:
Registered on: 29-May-2009
Renewal date: 29-May-2011

Registration status:
Registered until renewal date.

Name servers:
ns1.donhost.co.uk 81.21.65.132
ns2.donhost.co.uk 195.10.228.132

All info from the public domain etc.etc.
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SAS that looks like the domain registrant information which is most likely the company that created their website.

You can pay to get the directors information but the free info from companies house is: -

Name & Registered Office:
OBANAIR LTD
38 AVONBANK RD
RUTHERGLEN
G73 2PA
Company No. SC360044

Status: Active
Date of Incorporation: 21/05/2009
Country of Origin: United Kingdom

Company Type: Private Limited Company
Nature of Business (SIC(03)):
None Supplied

Accounting Reference Date: 31/05
Last Accounts Made Up To: (NO ACCOUNTS FILED)
Next Accounts Due: 21/02/2011
Last Return Made Up To:
Next Return Due: 18/06/2010

Previous Names:
No previous name information has been recorded over the last 20 years.
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Hmmm, never heard of this chap.
From that venerable publication the 'OT' 2/7/09

Two pilots under the company name of Obanair Ltd are carrying out a feasibility study to look at introducing flights connecting the central belt and the Western Isles via Oban.
The study is likely to take two or three months and if it comes out in favour of the routes, Edinburgh-Oban-Benbecula and Prestwick-Oban-Stornoway, the new service would not be underway until next year at the very earliest.
Spencer Pryor (for it is he!) who is based in Rutherglen and has a background in avaition and market research, along with another director is keen to set up the two routes with Obanair based at Oban Airport.
'We still need to enter into discussions with A&BC regarding Oban Airport and Highlands and Islands Airports Ltd' said Mr Pryor.
'We have flown in and out of Oban Airport as pilots and feel that it is a little under-utilised. If we could do daily flights we would be happy with that but it could be three days a week.'
'The idea is to see if there is a market for it and test the economics of it.'
He is hoping the research will show a demand for a daily service using a small commuter aircraft. Obanair would apply for a Cat B airline operators' licence.
Mr Pryor hoped the services might be able to take advantage of the airline discount scheme to the Western Isles.




I like the 'little under-utilised' bit, I'll agree with him there!


So, what do you reckon, a bit of or ?

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Here's a press release which names Spencer Pryor as "CEO or Obanair".

New air service mooted for Western Isles

Wonder if he has his own corporate jet ?

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So, what do you reckon, a bit of or ?

Or perhaps a clever ploy to get their hands on some of A&BC's handouts
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Who's AOC? Which aircraft? What's the Aviation experience of this lot?

Let's just say that I think there is more chance of Ryanair agreeing to run a route using 737-800's into Oban than this becoming reality!
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Clearly Spencer Pryor, Director and Secretary of newly formed Obanair Ltd, who was born on 6 March 1957 is no relation to Spencer Hugh Pryor who by a remarkable co-incidence was also born on 6 March 1957.

Spencer Hugh Pryor is a Director of Ecosse Tel Internet Ltd which last filed accounts to 28 Feb 2001 and a Director of Ecosse Telecommunications Ltd and Local Post Ltd, both of which appear to have been dissolved.
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Rumour has it that I will be visiting Oban & Glenforsa in a couple of weeks. Original GF, I look forward to sampling your bar stock, again.

Despite all the shenanigans, many of us will continue to visit this glorious part of the world.
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