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P.S. If fisbangwallop's reading this, thanks very much for the service today on Scottish.
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I think this is good news for Oban and should be applauded as it will allow arrivals and departures after closing at 6pm. This will be a boon during the summer months.
Fair enough but how does that justify £30+VAT per airfield. Cant imagine there will be a requirement to check the insurance details 3 times over if you choose to tick Oban, Coll and Colonsay. The HIAL Out of Hours is a similar cost for all airfields.
I think you might have got the wrong end of the stick here. I suspect these charges are to open /licence the airfield outside normal operational hours. The Out of Hours Indemnity will permit you to use the airfield when it is closed/unlicenced. I dont anticipate having to pay any more than the usual £15 of whatever when utilising the Out of Hours Indemnity.
The additional fee is to cover the admin associated with checking your insurance and issuing the appropriate paperwork. The insurance question is germane because, in essence, you ( ie your insurer) will be liable for any damage caused to the aerodrome and its equipment should you have a mishap. In other words the indemnity covers the airfield not the aircraft.
Out -of -Hours figures are out of our reach: £300 for Coll and Colonsay, and £700 + for Oban. (Minimum of 2 hours charge)
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Think we spoke as you headed home via Polmont.......was getting a bit sporty with everyone wanting to talk at the same time!! 
Was a lovely day yesterday
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The Argyll and Bute websites states that for Coll and Colonsay "landings are only permitted outwith the times of the scheduled air services and are strictly by prior arrangement which can be requested by telephoning 01631 710910"
So with the alleged introduction of the Out of Hours I am going to be charged an additional £60+VAT for exactly the same privileges which have been available for the last 2-3 years at no charge ?
So with the alleged introduction of the Out of Hours I am going to be charged an additional £60+VAT for exactly the same privileges which have been available for the last 2-3 years at no charge ?
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Not good news today
The BN2 left Connel yesterday and the apron is deserted:
BBC News - Highland Airways goes into administration
Such a shame and a wasted opportunity. So who will be able to offer bids to continue the service?
A sad day for all those concerned.
GS
BBC News - Highland Airways goes into administration
Such a shame and a wasted opportunity. So who will be able to offer bids to continue the service?
A sad day for all those concerned.
GS
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Not very good news...
Heard through the rumour mill for a while they have been in a spot of bother. Yet more poor pilots joining the dole queue... this must be one of the most insecure careers in existance
Smithy
Heard through the rumour mill for a while they have been in a spot of bother. Yet more poor pilots joining the dole queue... this must be one of the most insecure careers in existance
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Like Oban another tranche of public money lost on Highland Airways services no one wants in Scotland or Wales..
Sorry to see them go.
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Read in The Scotchman newspaper this morning that apparently the problem was that the taxman was after a fair bit of owed tax from Heeland Airways, they asked to pay it up over a few years but HMRC wanted the dues squared with immediate effect.
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Phil Space/Scottish PPL:
You're both right. People in the islands want the services, it's just that there aren't enough of them to make the services viable so they inevitably require large dollops of taxpayers money. Even with all the subsidies Highland still needed a contract at Oban that paid them even when they didn't fly, and even after all that they still struggled to pay the bills.
I see Loganair have stepped in to run Highland's STN-BEN service. Time for Hebridean Air Services to step up to fly the Coll/Colonsay run?
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Like Oban another tranche of public money lost on Highland Airways services no one wants in Scotland or Wales..
I think you'll find Highland Airways services were wanted and respected by many customers who will miss the excellent service they have provided Scottish island communities over many years.
Like Oban another tranche of public money lost on Highland Airways services no one wants in Scotland or Wales..
I think you'll find Highland Airways services were wanted and respected by many customers who will miss the excellent service they have provided Scottish island communities over many years.
I see Loganair have stepped in to run Highland's STN-BEN service. Time for Hebridean Air Services to step up to fly the Coll/Colonsay run?
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George should have got the contract in the first instance 
for the Oban flights.....after all he is the UK's expert in BN2 operations!! The BN2 being the only commercial aircraft that can actually operate into the two islands due to lack of runway!!.
for the Oban flights.....after all he is the UK's expert in BN2 operations!! The BN2 being the only commercial aircraft that can actually operate into the two islands due to lack of runway!!.
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I'm so pleased at that news. As you say fbw, Hebridean should have got it in the first place but hopefully they will demonstrate their ability to provide an even better service than was there before. Much will depend on what the council contract says though. At least George Cormack has the flexibility to deploy his Oban aircraft to other places when not needed there, and his other a/c to Oban when required due to maintenance etc. Highland had to pay George to maintain their Oban-based Islander anyway; now that it's in-house it will presumably make the whole operation cheaper.
Good news for Paul K too since he's now got some assurance of sales of avgas continuing at a reasonable rate.
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Good news for Paul K too since he's now got some assurance of sales of avgas continuing at a reasonable rate.
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STN-BEN service
George should have got the contract in the first instance
Hebridean should have got it in the first place
Not entirely sure Hebridean should have. Maybe you should both elaborate as to why. As far as I know there was a tender process and Highland won fair and square. And as for bashing Highland for taking subsidy, do you think Hebridean are doing it for free? You will find he is taking even more so why not come on here and knock him for that?
And as for Hebridean being the UK Islander specialists. Not sure that Loganair, Blue Island, Lydd etc would agree with you.
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Dont think anyone was bashing Highway.....always sad to see an operator go tits up...as for George getting the contract for Oban flights well I think he should have as he was the only person around with the expertise to operate the BN2 Islander.....the only aircraft able to operate into the two island strips due to the short nature of the runways..
And as for bashing Highland for taking subsidy,
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he was the only person around with the expertise to operate the BN2 Islander
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Ah ! But Loganair (and I suspect Directflight) Islanders don't talk to Fisbangwallop on their inter-island routes. I think it would be fair to say that Logan have the longest and probably the most extensive Islander experience in Europe, if not the world. The aircraft were developed with the Orkney inter -island service very much in mind, indeed with input from the Orkney Island Shipping Company whose ship the Islander provided the very name.
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So Logan have never have operated Islanders? Or Blue Island? Or Directflight? Or indeed Highland for that matter?