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Old 17th Nov 2004, 22:45
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Which CAA form?

I understand that one can renew an IMC rating with just paperwork if it said paperwork includes proof of passing an FAA IR flight test recently. Does anyone know which CAA form one uses to do this? I've looked through the list but can't find one that covers the renewal of an IMCR, let alone by having done an FAA IR.
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Old 18th Nov 2004, 16:40
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There is no form. The IMC rating is revalidated by an examiner completing a flight test and signing thr revalidation page of the licence.

The initial IMC rating can be issued on the basis of a FAA IR however the IMC rating has to be revalidated by flight test with a UK examiner as per the ANO.
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drauk, you cannot "renew" an IMC on the basis of your IR, however you can apply for a "new" IMC on the basis of your FAA-IR.

So every 25 months you could apply for a new one, as long as your FAA-IR is valid...

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Old 18th Nov 2004, 16:59
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1. For the initial isue of a UK IMC Rating, note that:

An applicant who has held an ICAO or military green Instrument Rating or a UK professional pilot licence aeroplanes in the 2 years preceding the date of application for the IMC Rating will be exempt from taking the initial IMC Flight Test and written examination.

So, just get fill out the SRG 1125 stating your exemption and attaching logbook proof of your FAA IR, together with payment of £70 to the CAA. Download the form from this site:
http://www.caa.co.uk/publications/pu...e=formcat&id=2

2. To re-validate or renew an existing IMC Rating, note that:

An IMC rating may be revalidated/renewed for a further period by the CAA, on the basis of the most recent Non-JAA IR(A) flight test. A fee is payable if the C of T is signed up by the CAA.

No test needed and (probably) nothing to pay in this latter case if your Examiner merely needs to check your log book for evidence of your FAA IR validity before signing the National Rating - Certificate of Revalidation page in your licence.
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I'd read (LASORS) the second of BEagle's quotes, hence the question. So it would appear to me that you CAN revalidate by means of the FAA IR.

So presumably I can get any CAA-authorised examiner to sign the revalidation in my licence? Is there such thing as an IMC examiner or are all PPL examiners able to do IMC tests as well?
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Old 18th Nov 2004, 17:45
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I can't believe that the CAA would ever authorise as an Examiner any PPL FI who had not had the 'no applied instrument' restriction removed from his/her licence......

So yes, just get a UK/FE (PPL) to sign your licence, I would say.....

The problem with asking the CAA is that you'll get at least 3 opinions from any 2 different CAA flunkies.
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Old 18th Nov 2004, 18:00
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CAA QUOTE:

"I can confirm that your IMC rating can be revalideated for a further 25 month period on the basis of your valid FAA IR provided you have completed an FAA IR proficiency check within the 25 months preceding the date of application for the revalidation of the IMC rating. If you have maintained the FAA IR on the basis of insturment experience i.e. 6 instrument approaches etc. in the preceding 6 months, that is NOT acceptible to revalidate the IMC rating. In this case you would have to either pass the IMC renewals skill test or the FAA IR proficiency check.

Application for revalidation of the IMC rating should be made using form SRG 1125, enclosing your logbook and fee. Please ensure that if revalidating on the basis of the FAA IR, that the IPC is clearly annotated in your logbook"

S D White
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So, if you have just passed an FAA IR, you can apply for an IMC. If your IMC issued on the basis of the FAA IR has or will lapse, you need to have an FAA IPC from an FAA CFII in your logbook to get another, or pass the skills test noted above...

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Mine was the inital FAA IR test pass, rather than an IPC, but I assume from what EnglishAl quotes that will be fine. So SRG 1125 it is then...
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That should work. Whats the fee now? I have to reapply for mine...

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White seems to be saying that you should apply to the CAA if the re-validation is being sought on the basis of your FAA/IR:

"Application for revalidation of the IMC rating should be made using form SRG 1125, enclosing your logbook and fee. Please ensure that if revalidating on the basis of the FAA IR, that the IPC is clearly annotated in your logbook"

However, the statement in LASORS states A fee is payable if the C of T is signed up by the CAA", implying that others may sign the form......

Or is this yet more Belgrano doublespeak?
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